Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 13 - BRYAN NEW CHAMP YES! YES! YES!

by Firenze Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:23 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:Better yet what's next for brawk

Sting

by M99 Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:24 pm

Actually my top 5 is based on WWE alone. Prime Flair only ever had one run on the WWE. His prime was spent on WCW and NWA. Same with Sting, only NWA and WCW.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:27 pm

Well Ric Flair had as big an impact as the stars we mention.

He was a hero of HBK, HHH and a mentor also....

He paved the way for them, just like Hogan did.

He didn't wrestle much in WWE because WCW/NWA etc etc was a bigger product at the time.

But in the grand scheme of things not many have had a bigger impact on the business.... without Ric Flair there is no HBK, HHH, Austin and The Rock.

But again its really impossible to compare.

Different eras and different ways of doing things..... but the WWE wrestlers today and in the last 15 years, Ric Flair is held in the same esteem as Hogan and that means a lot.

by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:34 pm

There were rumors among the talent backstage at WrestleMania XXX that The Undertaker was supposed to kick out or that the finish to his match with Brock Lesnar was botched but as we've noted, that's not the case.

The finish was planned but was kept from people even very high up in WWE's marketing and production departments. WWE officials were very afraid of the finish leaking and it's said only a small circle of 4-6 people were aware.

Vince McMahon actually missed the WrestleMania main event and Daniel Bryan's big win because he left his post to ride with Taker to the hospital in the back of the ambulance. Vince left it up to Triple H and Stephanie McMahon to run the rest of the show, all while playing a role in the main event as well.

by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:35 pm

Tonight's WWE RAW will take place at the Smoothie King Center in New Orleans with the fallout from WrestleMania XXX. It's worth noting that WWE is not advertising Brock Lesnar or The Undertaker for tonight.

WWE is focusing on the following points for tonight:

* How will Daniel Bryan address the WWE Universe?

* Do Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar plan on speaking after ending The Streak?

* Is one victory enough for John Cena to rid himself of The Wyatt Family?

* What's next for Cesaro?

* What lied ahead for The Shield?

by Firenze Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:38 pm

I'm a big fan of Cesaro, I really hope they don't drop the ball with him, I could see the crowd getting bored of him pretty quickly, needs some kind of gimmick, unless he's keeping the real american we the people one, which would be weird but whatever, it works. Hope he's in the title picture eventually.

by Rebaño Sagrado Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:39 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Smoothie King Center in New Orleans

Yohan Modric wrote:

* Will Paul Heyman speak for Lesnar, because he sounds like an 8 year old girl? after ending The Streak?

fixed.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:40 pm

M99 wrote:Actually my top 5 is based on WWE alone. Prime Flair only ever had one run on the WWE. His prime was spent on WCW and NWA. Same with Sting, only NWA and WCW.

Tbh that's a good thing.... considering wrestling used to have more than one major company its really impossible to access impact on the business.

The only way you can really keep this in the realms of sanity is if we stick to just one company because otherwise it gets too tricky.

Or just personal favourites, as lets be honest most of the time the "best" is usually just a favourites list.

by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:40 pm

I hope WWE don't force push Cesaro and Reigns, otherwise both will flop and it'll backfire. Both need a gimmick and need to get over first.

Same with Bray Wyatt. It may seem like they're the future, but wasn't Ziggler the future? What about Miz, Morrison, Sheamus, Barrett. List is endless.

by RealGunner Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:41 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:"Lesnar's legacy"? wat am I reading

He is a once in a lifetime athlete. He's the only man to ever win the NCAA Division I Heavyweight Championship, the WWE Title, and the UFC Title. He ripped WWE apart when he debuted. Within 2 years of his debut, Vince decided to make him THE man of the company because he was absolutely over with the fans. Never has a superstar been so dominant from the moment he arrived until the moment he left.

I know beating Undertaker's Streak is a major crime but let's not undervalue Lesnar or think of him as a scrub.

ffs just look at this freak.

by Firenze Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:41 pm

and I hope Cena's Wyatt feud is over. It was pretty half assed, as was every feud at Mania bar Bryan's story. There was no chemistry between Cena and Bray.

Christian and Sheamus had better build up for a fight that never happened over the last two months than Undertaker vs Lesnar and Wyatts Cena rofl

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:42 pm

Theres no reason why Barrett and Sheamus still can't be the future tbh.

Also Ziggler could have worked too in all honesty.... there's no reason why it couldn't have done.

by RealGunner Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:42 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
M99 wrote:Actually my top 5 is based on WWE alone. Prime Flair only ever had one run on the WWE. His prime was spent on WCW and NWA. Same with Sting, only NWA and WCW.

Tbh that's a good thing.... considering wrestling used to have more than one major company its really impossible to access impact on the business.

The only way you can really keep this in the realms of sanity is if we stick to just one company because otherwise it gets too tricky.

Or just personal favourites, as lets be honest most of the time the "best" is usually just a favourites list.

+1

by Yohan Modric on Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:40 pm wrote:

I hope WWE don't force push Cesaro and Reigns, otherwise both will flop and it'll backfire. Both need a gimmick and need to get over first.

Same with Bray Wyatt. It may seem like they're the future, but wasn't Ziggler the future? What about Miz, Morrison, Sheamus, Barrett. List is endless.

+1

by M99 Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:44 pm

RG +1 to MT and Mole, smh when will this unfairness end?

by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:46 pm

Lesnar isn't a scrub, but he should have been one of the top superstars who couldn't end the streak.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:46 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Rebaño Sagrado wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:"Lesnar's legacy"? wat am I reading

He is a once in a lifetime athlete. He's the only man to ever win the NCAA Division I Heavyweight Championship, the WWE Title, and the UFC Title. He ripped WWE apart when he debuted. Within 2 years of his debut, Vince decided to make him THE man of the company because he was absolutely over with the fans. Never has a superstar been so dominant from the moment he arrived until the moment he left.

I know beating Undertaker's Streak is a major crime but let's not undervalue Lesnar or think of him as a scrub.

ffs just look at this freak.

My man ffs.... when he was full time before he left to pursue his NFL dream he was THE MAN.

Not Cena or anyone else you want to name.... if he stayed he would have been spoken about in the same glowing terms Cena is.

Its not surprising though as anyone who beat Taker the fans would have been spitting blood at.

Even HHH would have got a similar reaction IMO, maybe worse due to Stephanie relation.

by RealGunner Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:46 pm

@ m99

by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:48 pm

Stars who appeared in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal at WrestleMania XXX who weren't announced before the match were the winner Cesaro, David Otunga, Yoshi Tatsu and Tyson Kidd.

Christian was not in the match due to the concussion he suffered a few weeks ago on RAW.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:49 pm

MT who should have broke the streak then?

Oh and please don't say Cena because you all know damn well that the rage would be 10x worse if Cena won Laughing

by McAgger Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:53 pm

Moal, like I said, it should've been HBK

by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:56 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:MT who should have broke the streak then?

Oh and please don't say Cena because you all know damn well that the rage would be 10x worse if Cena won

No one.

Or Cena, as part of his heel turn if he ever did turn. He'd get unimaginable heat, even from the kids probably.

by Firenze Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:58 pm

Undertaker wouldn't have lost, and lost to Lesnar, if that wasn't something he wanted. Respect the mans decision.

Mcagger, there's no worth in letting HBK end the streak, he's done and will never fight again, and he definitely doesn't need it to cement himself as one of if not the GOAT.

by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:00 pm

There will be a title change on RAW tonight imo. hmm

The divas, United States title or IC.

Rusev will debut.

Maybe an Undertaker speech.

Also Sting.

Punk probably returns to help Bryan.

Vince McMahon will return to address the authority and accept Bryan as champion.

Rock returns to setup match with Lesnar.

by Tomwin Lannister Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:01 pm

Don't care if i'm a bias fan, because even from an objective point of View heels suck atm and Bray is already the best heel

Who have we got for competition? Randy 'Champ but still can't beat Kofi clean' Boreton

Dave 'A fat guy beat the shit out of me and I can't walk upstairs without taking a breather' Batista

Er... Brodus clay?

by Firenze Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:01 pm

I genuinely would not be shocked if The Authority storyline continues and they screw Bryan out of the titles and Batista is the champion. I'm betting on it hmm

by Tomwin Lannister Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:03 pm

Looooooooooooool imagine a 3rd screwjob for Daniel Bryan

But nah, they wouldn't shit all over their own WMXXX main event like that, then again.... or would they?

The streak being broken has changed a lot of things imo

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