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Post by Ganso Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:36 am

They have Yaya-Fernandinho and they need a new CM?

They should get a goalscoring winger, like Reus.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:39 am

Which is why I was pissing myself laughing at people in the Summer who were fapping over Citys 'transfer plans'

It was absolutely ridiculous.

Hand anybody on this forum an infinite wage budget and they could buy a handful of meh players too



Jovetic - So injury prone he might aswell not exist at City

Negredo - Had like 5 weeks of great form, outside of that he's done nothing that Dzeko couldn't have done anyway

Navas - Lol.

Demi - Awful, absolutely awful

Fernandinho - Now this was definitely a good signing, but hardly a 'good spot' or a 'bargain' considering they just slapped a fat load of cash down for him.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:40 am

You can't compete in Europe with a 2-man mid. Many of the top teams have opted to flood the midfield and take control there... you'll just get overwhelmed.

If City are serious about CL, they need to transition into a 3-man mid concept... and they would need another CM. I also feel that they have no depth to begin with.

Yaya being a truly poor defender makes it even more critical...
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:45 am

Yaya is a City hero, yet he's a huge defensive liability so City have to do their best to accomodate him defensively

Somebody like Fernando from Porto would help, i've heard he's a good DM and he's been linked to City previously. Can't say I've watched him outside of like 5 games so I can't judge him though.

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Post by S Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:49 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:We can hate on PSG all we like but it can't be denied they have built their squad very wisely.

Comparing them to City doesnt mean anything though.They're a poorly run club,simply put.

Maybe comparing them to Chelsea would be much more apt.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:00 am

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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:We can hate on PSG all we like but it can't be denied they have built their squad very wisely.

Comparing them to City doesnt mean anything though.They're a poorly run club,simply put.

Maybe comparing them to Chelsea would be much more apt.

Meant as an oil money club who haven't done it yet.... PSG are further along than City at this point because of better management.
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Post by S Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:04 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
S wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:We can hate on PSG all we like but it can't be denied they have built their squad very wisely.

Comparing them to City doesnt mean anything though.They're a poorly run club,simply put.

Maybe comparing them to Chelsea would be much more apt.

Meant as an oil money club who haven't done it yet.... PSG are further along than City at this point because of better management.

I'm not arguing who has the better management but how much 'further' they really are ?

As i've said in the other thread,PSG have the fortune of playing in a weak league and hence they are romping their way to league titles.

And i'm sure Man City would've wished to have the same easy peesy draws like PSG too no ? I'm sure the reactions and opinions would've been different here then.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:07 am

Is Russian money better or Oil money according to you guys? I ask this because Chelsea is Russian money and Arsnenal has a major shareholder who is Russian money too.

Glazer made his money with corporate takeovers to start... LBOs. He'd buy companies and lay massive debt on them. If the company could get itself together and keep the debt current, he'd keep them obviously. Otherwise, he'd break them apart and sell them in pieces. A corporate raider/turnaround specialist.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:07 am

and Surag continues with his ignorance Laughing PSG didn't win the league in its first season and only won it last year on the 36th of 38 match days... Serie A has been easier for Juve, a lesser team obviously, than Ligue 1 has been for PSG.
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Post by S Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:11 am

PSG and City's squads are pretty comparable.Lets not exaggerate here.

But hey,PSG beat Leverkusen and Olympiakos so obviously they must be considered elite.
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Post by Onyx Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:15 am

Ganso wrote:They have Yaya-Fernandinho and they need a new CM?

They should get a goalscoring winger, like Reus.

Neither are dictating/creative midfielders though.

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Post by S Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:16 am

sportsczy wrote:and Surag continues with his ignorance Laughing PSG didn't win the league in its first season and only won it last year on the 36th of 38 match days...  Serie A has been easier for Juve, a lesser team obviously, than Ligue 1 has been for PSG.

Yet somehow that indicates Ligue 1 is tough doesnt it ? Laughing And who was their main competitor ? Wait... OM roflrofl

Its quite obvious players would feel bored of playing in such a weak mediocre league with sub-standard teams and that'll somehow lead to a title race due to complacency and lax attitude when in reality there actually isnt a 'race'.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:41 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
Somebody like Fernando  from Porto would help, i've heard he's a good DM and he's been linked to City previously. Can't say I've watched him outside of like 5 games so I can't judge him though.


Last couple years he has become more advanced, doesnt sit and hold like he used to (at the coaches orders).

But not too long ago, he was very good in that role and it seems like City will look to sign him.

He probably would help just for the fact he is better than Javi Garcia and it means you can move Yaya closer to goal.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:51 am

sportsczy wrote:Is Russian money better or Oil money according to you guys?  I ask this because Chelsea is Russian money and Arsnenal has a major shareholder who is Russian money too.

Glazer made his money with corporate takeovers to start...  LBOs.  He'd buy companies and lay massive debt on them.  If the company could get itself together and keep the debt current, he'd keep them obviously.  Otherwise, he'd break them apart and sell them in pieces.  A corporate raider/turnaround specialist.

With regards to football it surely depends on the particular owner and how ambitious they are and how well they manage said investment surely?

The difference in actual capital they can spend is not that huge at least on average that it would depend entirely on the person in question.

No point having billions to spend if you don't have the ambition to further the football club and win things and align yourselves with people who know football finance.

So to answer your question i don't believe either route is "better" just depends on the individual and what he wants out of his investment.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:06 pm

S wrote:PSG and City's squads are pretty comparable.Lets not exaggerate here.

But hey,PSG beat Leverkusen and Olympiakos so obviously they must be considered elite.
Porto, Benfica, Valencia, etc. But don't let the facts get in your way.

And no, City and PSG's squads are not comparable. PSG has a better keeper. Better defense with better defensive depth. Better midfielders by far and better defensive depth. On the attack... Aguero wouldn't start with Ibra and Cavani there. About the only City players that would break the starting XI at PSG are Kompany and Silva (although Lavezzi is really coming on and that may not be true anymore soon lol). And, no, i wouldn't play Yaya Toure over any of the starting mids at PSG. He doesn't play enough defense and the key to the midfield play at PSG is that they move forward and back as a unit... the increased offensive output he would bring would not make up for the imbalance he would cause on the defensive side.
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Post by RED Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:54 pm

Spend another billion.

Team spent 1.8 billion since their takeover and had the likes of Milner and Lescott in their starting 11 v Barca, 2 players who looked so out of their depths last night, it was plain comical.

Throwing money like it's nothing is the only thing they know.
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Post by Doc Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:55 pm

PSG's squad isn't comparable to City's as the former is much better equipped in defense, midfield and attack. While both clubs have owners that are vastly wealthy, PSG has done much better in terms of managing their resources than City has.

Of course, City CAN improve (helps when you actually have the money to do so) so I wouldn't worry too much about those rich bastards. Anyway, on the topic, a proper CB partnership, a better holding midfielder and more importantly, getting rid of the dead weight.

The Rodwell's, Lescott's, etc.
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Post by S Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:02 pm

sportsczy wrote:
S wrote:PSG and City's squads are pretty comparable.Lets not exaggerate here.

But hey,PSG beat Leverkusen and Olympiakos so obviously they must be considered elite.
 Porto, Benfica, Valencia, etc.  But don't let the facts get in your way.

And no, City and PSG's squads are not comparable.  PSG has a better keeper.  Better defense with better defensive depth.  Better midfielders by far and better defensive depth.  On the attack... Aguero wouldn't start with Ibra and Cavani there.  About the only City players that would break the starting XI at PSG are Kompany and Silva (although Lavezzi is really coming on and that may not be true anymore soon lol).  And, no, i wouldn't play Yaya Toure over any of the starting mids at PSG.  He doesn't play enough defense and the key to the midfield play at PSG is that they move forward and back as a unit...  the increased offensive output he would bring would not make up for the imbalance he would cause on the defensive side.

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So delusional Laughing Obviously you're getting too carried away because they're destroying scrubs in Lol 1,its ok..PSG are good at scrub killing i'll give you that Laughing

Aguero,Yaya,Silva,Kompany,Zabaleta will all WALK straight into the PSG starting eleven.Then there's Fernandinho,Negredo,Navas etc all comparable to some of PSG's players.

Saying City's team is not comparable to PSG is as good as saying France has a chance to win the world cup this year Laughing
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Post by S Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:08 pm

PSG maybe be better than City but not by much.You cant say they arent comparable at all.You're basically giving too much respect to PSG in that case,a team that is yet to achieve something significant on the European stage.


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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:08 pm

S wrote:
sportsczy wrote:
S wrote:PSG and City's squads are pretty comparable.Lets not exaggerate here.

But hey,PSG beat Leverkusen and Olympiakos so obviously they must be considered elite.
 Porto, Benfica, Valencia, etc.  But don't let the facts get in your way.

And no, City and PSG's squads are not comparable.  PSG has a better keeper.  Better defense with better defensive depth.  Better midfielders by far and better defensive depth.  On the attack... Aguero wouldn't start with Ibra and Cavani there.  About the only City players that would break the starting XI at PSG are Kompany and Silva (although Lavezzi is really coming on and that may not be true anymore soon lol).  And, no, i wouldn't play Yaya Toure over any of the starting mids at PSG.  He doesn't play enough defense and the key to the midfield play at PSG is that they move forward and back as a unit...  the increased offensive output he would bring would not make up for the imbalance he would cause on the defensive side.

Laughing

So delusional :lol:Obviously you're getting too carried away because they're destroying scrubs in Lol 1,its ok..PSG are good at scrub killing i'll give you that Laughing

Aguero,Yaya,Silva,Kompany,Zabaleta will all WALK straight into the PSG starting eleven.Then there's Fernandinho,Negredo,Navas etc all comparable to some of PSG's players.

Saying City's team is not comparable to PSG is as good as saying France has a chance to win the world cup this year Laughing

Scrubs in L1? Dude, how delusional are you?

How can you say shit like that when serie A sucks dick? Can you guys at least do something in the champions league?? Oh wait.. nope. because all serie a teams are mediocre right now and yes, "LoL 1" is better.

Aguero isn't better then cavani and ibra for PSG..
Silva wouldn't just "walk" into their midfield when he cant defend for his life

And yes.. believe it or not, city hasn't done anything in europe
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:11 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:Scrubs in L1? Dude, how delusional are you?

How can you say shit like that when serie A sucks dick? Can you guys at least do something in the champions league?? Oh wait.. nope. because all serie a teams are mediocre right now and yes, "LoL 1" is better.

Yep, I'm facepalming this.

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Post by S Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:13 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:Scrubs in L1? Dude, how delusional are you?

How can you say shit like that when serie A sucks dick? Can you guys at least do something in the champions league?? Oh wait.. nope. because all serie a teams are mediocre right now and yes, "LoL 1" is better.

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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:15 pm

Its the truth though.. Make excuses for juve or napoli not getting out of the group stage or whatever; fact is, they didn't. Milan had a super easy group and still struggled..
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:18 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:Its the truth though.. Make excuses for juve or napoli not getting out of the group stage or whatever; fact is, they didn't. Milan had a super easy group and still struggled..

It's not the truth.

You said Ligue 1 is better, based on this year so far, how is that true?

Provide some proof.
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Post by Doc Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:21 pm

S wrote:PSG maybe be better than City but not by much.You cant say they arent comparable at all.You're basically giving too much respect to PSG in that case,a team that is yet to achieve something significant on the European stage.

Well, City doesn't know what the quarter final stage looks like in the CL when comparing the two. PSG just so happens to know what it looks (when comparing the two). It isn't an achievement that is of any note to folks but when comparing the two, it's an indication that PSG have been doing something better than City.

Maybe I'm giving PSG a lil too much respect but I just don't see how City and PSG are close.
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:25 pm

Doc wrote:Well, City doesn't know what the quarter final stage looks like in the CL when comparing the two. PSG just so happens to know what it looks (when comparing the two). It isn't an achievement that is of any note to folks but when comparing the two, it's an indication that PSG have been doing something better than City.

Maybe I'm giving PSG a lil too much respect but I just don't see how City and PSG are close.

Luck of the draw Doc.
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