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Post by Art Morte Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:24 am

A couple of pictures from yesterday of the Manaus pitch:

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Not a nightmare, but should probably be better?

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Post by Onyx Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:54 pm

How much each side will travel:

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Post by Onyx Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:02 pm

Naming kids after footballers. Laughing

When Angela got pregnant, she agreed with her husband that, if they had a baby girl, they would name her Amanda.

But if they had a boy, they would name him after former England striker Gary Lineker, winner of the Golden Boot as the highest scorer at the 1986 World Cup in Mexico.

In the end, they had a girl - but that didn't stop them from going for their preferred name.

"I don't know how my dad managed to persuade my mum," says 21-year old engineering student Lineker Hoffmann.

She is not alone. Her parents' idol inspired a whole generation of Linekers in her town in the south-eastern state of Espirito Santo.
In true Brazilian fashion, the spelling can vary: Lineker becomes Linique, Linick or Linik.

But there is no doubt that naming newborn children after leading international footballers is a Brazilian tradition synonymous with the World Cup.

A noticeable surge in Romarios occurred in June 1994, when the former Brazil striker led the national team to its fourth World Cup triumph.

But Brazilians are very keen on both adopting and adapting foreign names, leading to Rummenigge da Silva, Jorge Beckenbauer, Michel Platini Goes, Klinsmann Carrilho, Ruud Gullit Ribeiro and Diego Maradona da Silva.

Maria Lucia da Silva, 52, decided to name her son Diego Maradona after the "Hand of God" goal scored by the Argentine captain against England in 1986.

Maradona da Silva, however, does not play football and is not a fan of his own name. The real Maradona, he says, "wasn't a real idol or an example for his own country".

"I was teased throughout my childhood," explains the 26-year-old.
He refused to name any of his own children after a player, but the family tradition continues through his sister's children - four-year-old Thierry Henry and little brother Romario.

Brazilian law takes a liberal approach to parents' choice of children's names.

Unlike Portugal, for example, where parents must choose names and spellings from a list of 3,000 names, Brazil requires only that the choice must not cause embarrassment to the children.
It is up to registrars to take the case to the courts if they think a name falls into that category.

Commonly, Brazilian children's names combine syllables taken from other names - often the parents', names of objects or foreign words.

When they become adults, many will request a change.
Gerson Martins, a lawyer who has helped with more than 100 name changes, says people named after footballers rarely do so.

"They like the advantage of having a distinctive name," he says, but there can be inconveniences.

"People never get my name right," says Jorge Beckenbauer, a 43-year old lawyer named after the former West Germany defender and World Cup winner as player and coach, Franz.

"They call me blequienpower, blequinopower."

Klinsmann Carrilho says he is often mistaken for "Christian". His mother considered the former West Germany striker and current USA coach "very handsome", explains the 19-year-old.

The Brazilian Klinsmann said he was not interested in football for most of his childhood and only started to follow the game after seeing the Portuguese striker Cristiano Ronaldo in action.
If he has a son, he wants to name him Matthaus, after Lothar, Klinsmann's partner in the West German team and 1990 World Cup-winning captain.

"It is going to be a family joke," he says.

Even before kick-off, the 2014 World Cup has already had an effect on the choice of children's names in Brazil, according to Babycenter,  a website that stores more than 60,000 baby names.
David Luiz has just broken into the top 100 most popular names in the country, thanks to the popularity of the Brazilian defensive midfielder.

Since last year, the website has also registered two Messis, four Cristiano Ronaldos, one (Wesley) Sneijder and one Inzaghi, after the former Italian striker and new AC Milan coach, Filippo. Neymar is also proving popular.

"I want him to be a champion," says Lenilda Bezerra, 29, whose child, due in three months, will be called Neymar.
This kind of positive attitude served Lineker Augusto da Silva Matos well in later life.

"Everyone told me I needed to honour my name, so I made an effort," said the 21-year-old footballer who plays for Aguia de Maraba in the third division of the national league in northern Brazil.
Despite his connections with the sport, Lineker says he will be forced to join the many other Brazilians who cannot afford tickets to watch the games and oppose the government's high public expenditure in staging the event.

As will Michel Platini da Costa Goes, a 28-year old carpenter.

"There will be many strikes and much disorganisation," he says.

Steel worker Edson Arantes do Nascimento Souza, 43 - aka Pele - is pessimistic on the hosts' prospects, unlike his namesake.

"The way things are, I think it will be difficult for Brazil to win this one."

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Post by RealGunner Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:02 pm

lol Ain't nobody got time fo dat

brb naming my son Bebe
brb naming my son Danny Shittu
brb naming Mt's son Igor Shatov
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:04 pm

Was up the town this morning, after my obligatory McDonalds breakfast I nipped down to Coral bookies and stuck 10 quid on Italy winning, £230 return.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:14 pm

"Of the 736 players attending the competition only 11 play their club football in Brazil"
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Post by Onyx Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:41 pm

Australia and Japan's beautiful football answer. Laughing

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Post by Art Morte Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:08 pm

USA 1st rooting against USA, is that the immigrants answering? eco smile

The same with France, Russia and Japan, 2nd team rooting against are France, Russia and Japan for them... Football haters?
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Post by windkick Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:18 pm

Are teams in the groups going to be decided by goal differintial (sp?) first in the event of a tie? Or will it be like the Euros, and first tie breaker will be head to head result?
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Post by VendettaRed07 Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:34 pm

USA rooting against USA.. FFS  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: 

I don't think that is just because of the large number of immigrants or anything. I think that it has mostly to do with the large number of douchey anti-american, Guy fawkes mask wearing, hipsters who were actually, sadly, born here
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Post by rwo power Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:40 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Naming kids after footballers. Laughing 
Guess whose fan the parents of Bayern's Diego Armando Contento were XD
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Post by windkick Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:51 pm

VendettaRed07 wrote:USA rooting against USA.. FFS  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: 

I don't think that is just because of the large number of immigrants or anything. I think that it has mostly to do with the large number of douchey anti-american, Guy fawkes mask wearing, hipsters who were actually, sadly, born here


I was born in the USA, root for Mexico and against USA

deal with it
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Post by Ganso Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:54 pm

i dont think there are as many people in one nation rooting against their own NT as in Brazil

good to see everyone from SA hating on Argentina
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Post by Onyx Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:55 pm

rwo power wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Naming kids after footballers. Laughing 
Guess whose fan the parents of Bayern's Diego Armando Contento were XD


Probably Maradona imo. hmm

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:00 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:
rwo power wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Naming kids after footballers. Laughing 
Guess whose fan the parents of Bayern's Diego Armando Contento were XD


Probably Maradona imo. hmm


That's exactly right.  Thumbs up 
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Post by VendettaRed07 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:25 pm

windkick wrote:
VendettaRed07 wrote:USA rooting against USA.. FFS  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: 

I don't think that is just because of the large number of immigrants or anything. I think that it has mostly to do with the large number of douchey anti-american, Guy fawkes mask wearing, hipsters who were actually, sadly, born here


I was born in the USA, root for Mexico and against USA

deal with it


That is fine. If you are a mexico fan then you should definitely be rooting against USA.
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Post by windkick Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:06 pm

Well, I consider myself Mexican. It's not that I am a Mexican NT fan; I'm Mexican so I root for Mexico. I get everyones argument, if I was born in the USA I should root for team USA, but people who make that arguent ignore allot of variables and it's really not so black or white when it comes to this subject. Either or, I have nothing against team USA, I just don't root for them Smile
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:37 am

Argentina, Spain and USA are the only countries that think they have a better chance than the Brazil Proud

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/upshot/world-cup-opinions-in-19-countries-likes-dislikes-predictions.html

What's up with Italy's hate of Iran?

And Japan and Korea root against themselves? Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:47 am

I am going to change your name to 5 posts above BC Proud
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:48 am

"First goalscorers at World Cups going backwards: Tshabalala, Lahm, Diop, Sampaio, Klinsmann, Omam-Biyik, Altobelli, Vandenbergh, Lacombe"


Never even heard of Omam-Biyik lol
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Post by rwo power Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:50 am

I recently read about Diop, though, who scored as many World Cup goals as Rooney, Messi and CRonaldo together :bow:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:54 am

RealGunner wrote:I am going to change your name to 5 posts above BC Proud
This is getting embarassing lmao
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:57 am

About the name talk I'm naming my kids Lionel and Diego Armando.
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Post by M99 Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:42 am

I'm naming my kids Yohan and Modric.
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Post by BusterLfc Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:21 am

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Post by sportsczy Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:02 pm

BusterLfc wrote:http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1826000.1402516988!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/pitchweb12s-3-web.jpg?enlarged

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More a problem for EPL players since they're used to perfect pitch conditions... everywhere else, you always have to deal with poor pitch conditions in lesser venues.
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