Re: Champions League Last 16 discussion

by DeletedUser#1 Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Man U, Milan, Inter, Lyon, Spurs, CSKA, Rubin, and Valencia don't look in good shape to qualify for next season's CL.

Barring deep runs in EL by Napoli, Gala etc...I think we should be able to make it to 3rd pot provided we get to group stage. Unless there is something I'm missing.

by McAgger Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:04 pm

S wrote:I dont think so.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

Right now Liverpool have amassed 58.464 points in 5 seasons including this season.So this will be your total count when you are placed in the draw for next season's(14-15) CL qualifiers.And this includes 09-10 season.

Really, are you sure? I feel as though this is the rankings they used for this season.

by McAgger Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:08 pm

More worried about the play off round Sep than the group stages. If we end up unseeded there, we're going to be facing a really tough team.

by S Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:10 pm

McAgger wrote:
S wrote:I dont think so.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

Right now Liverpool have amassed 58.464 points in 5 seasons including this season.So this will be your total count when you are placed in the draw for next season's(14-15) CL qualifiers.And this includes 09-10 season.

Really, are you sure? I feel as though this is the rankings they used for this season.

Excuse me for my awful English for a second here.

Co-efficients are calculated based on performances of last five seasons for the subsequent CL season.

So in this case,co-efficients of 09-10,10-11,11-12,12-13,13-14 seasons are taken into account for the upcoming 14-15 European season IN THE DRAW.

Was this clear ?

by S Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:56 pm

Natalie Portman wrote:Man U, Milan, Inter, Lyon, Spurs, CSKA, Rubin, and Valencia don't look in good shape to qualify for next season's CL.

Barring deep runs in EL by Napoli, Gala etc...I think we should be able to make it to 3rd pot provided we get to group stage. Unless there is something I'm missing.

Totally forgot about Milan and United lol.

Basically Liverpool needs to be within 16-24th position in the co-efficients table to make Pot 3.

by iftikhar Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:54 am

Yes the play-off is a big worry. Not only we might draw some strong team, but our key players will be returning from WC after playing (almost) ceaselessly in the league.

by Leviathan Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:52 am

Natalie Portman wrote:

Damn. We had a Europa league semi points from 09-10 if it counted .

However, plenty of big teams are unlikely to make it namely the Milan clubs, Man United, etc.

YAY someone still see's us as a 'big' team Embarassed

Tbh the Europa league next season could well be worth watching if a few of the aforementioned names fall into it.

by Robespierre Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:15 am

S wrote:I dont think so.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

Right now Liverpool have amassed 58.464 points in 5 seasons including this season.So this will be your total count when you are placed in the draw for next season's(14-15) CL qualifiers.And this includes 09-10 season.

We were 7th just a year ago, now we are 13th and 7th place for Benfica :facepalm:

Not playing an European cup (even if it is Europe League ) it is really destructive

by lszanto Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:44 am

Leviathan wrote:
Natalie Portman wrote:

Damn. We had a Europa league semi points from 09-10 if it counted .

However, plenty of big teams are unlikely to make it namely the Milan clubs, Man United, etc.

YAY someone still see's us as a 'big' team

Tbh the Europa league next season could well be worth watching if a few of the aforementioned names fall into it.

Either that or it'll be a league of "has beens" hmm

by Leviathan Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:56 am

lszanto wrote:
Leviathan wrote:
Natalie Portman wrote:

Damn. We had a Europa league semi points from 09-10 if it counted .

However, plenty of big teams are unlikely to make it namely the Milan clubs, Man United, etc.

YAY someone still see's us as a 'big' team

Tbh the Europa league next season could well be worth watching if a few of the aforementioned names fall into it.

Either that or it'll be a league of "has beens"

Yeah I was cluthcing at straws a bit there Embarassed

And I sincerely doubt we will finish high enough to qualify for the Europa League anyhow pale

by Onyx Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:11 pm

CL this week.

by juventus101 Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:15 pm

Tuesday 18th February:

Bayer Leverkusen 1 - 3 PSG
Manchester City 2 - 2 Barcelona

Wednesday 19th February:

Arsenal 1 - 3 Bayern Munich
AC Milan 0 - 1 Atletico Madrid

Tuesday 25th February:

Zenit St Petersburg 0 - 2 Borussia Dortmund
Olympiacos 1 - 1 Manchester United

Wednesday 26th February:

Schalke 0 - 2 Real Madrid
Galatasaray 1 - 1 Chelsea

by Glory Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:20 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:CL this week.

great. now lets see if those group stage performances from manu were fluke or not.
A lot of people are still thinking that moyes is a CL specialist. rofl

, alas that merely has got a life span until the kick off come tuesday night. Rolling Eyes

by uzonero Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:52 pm

Tuesday 18th February:

Bayer Leverkusen 1 - 1 PSG
Manchester City 2 - 1 Barcelona

Wednesday 19th February:

Arsenal 1 - 2 Bayern Munich
AC Milan 1 - 1 Atletico Madrid

Tuesday 25th February:

Zenit St Petersburg 2 -1 Borussia Dortmund
Olympiacos 1 - 2 Manchester United

Wednesday 26th February:

Schalke 0 - 3 Real Madrid
Galatasaray 1 - 0 Chelsea

by Onyx Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:08 pm

Manuel Pellegrini, City manager

So far we have had a good season and we must finish in the same way – and one of our targets, of course, is to try to continue in the Champions League.

When you play against Barcelona, and big teams, you must always consider important things. But I think the most important thing is to try to be the same team that you see here every week in the Premier League. But you cannot play without considering that you have Messi and other important players [against you]; but we are not going to play just thinking of that.

I am absolutely sure the fans will enjoy this game. I also think they enjoyed it a lot when we qualified for the knockout round for the first time. But I also think the supporters are enjoying the season in the Premier League and in both cups we are playing in. But for me always very important – and I've said it before – is that the fans like the way we play. For me, I think we can have both things – to achieve important results and to play in a style that the fans enjoy.

Team news

Samir Nasri, making his first appearance for a month, capped his return from a medial ligament injury with the second goal against Chelsea. James Milner is suspended while Sergio Agüero misses out with a hamstring problem.

Gerardo Martino, Barcelona coach

This could have been the final. It would have been ideal if we had met them a bit later, maybe in the last eight, because the teams are both very good and City are doing well in the league and in the cups. At the moment it is the perfect time for both teams to come into this game.

We don't have to prioritise either scoring or not conceding. Obviously, we want to maintain possession, which is what we like and what benefits us, and if that leads to us scoring a goal then all the better. City are very similar to us. They are maybe a bit more direct but they are very good at keeping possession. I think the team with less time on the ball is the team that is going to suffer the most.

I don't think Manchester City are a mini Barcelona or a mini any team, though: I think they are one of the greatest teams in the world right now. What I really like is Manchester City's diversity. They have so many different threats; they are good at set pieces, good in the air and they score a lot of goals. Obviously, for us to defend that we will have to keep possession.

For the last six seasons Barcelona have reached the semi-finals of the Champions League, so the fans are used to that and they will find it difficult to understand if we don't go through. But obviously it is the tightest tie of them all. As a fan, I am sorry that [Agüero] is not playing because obviously we want to see the best players in the world – but as a coach it is one less problem for me.

Team news

Neymar struck against Rayo Vallecano on his comeback from a month-long absence with a right ankle injury but Martino says he will not risk him from the start unless he is ready. Xavi Hernández (calf) was left out at the weekend. Jonathan Dos Santos (knee) remains sidelined.

by RED Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:24 pm

Barcelona, don't let me down tomorrow.

by DeletedUser#1 Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:35 pm

On one hand, I love seeing all English teams getting raped in Europe, on the other hand, I want City/Chelsea/Arsenal to progress for our league title aspirations.

Ugh, conflict of interest Sad

by RED Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:57 pm

Natalie Portman wrote:On one hand, I love seeing all English teams getting raped in Europe, on the other hand, I want City/Chelsea/Arsenal to progress for our league title aspirations.

Ugh, conflict of interest

Whatever's best for your team. Thumbs up

by Fuchsteufelswild Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:28 am

Natalie Portman wrote:On one hand, I love seeing all English teams getting raped in Europe, on the other hand, I want City/Chelsea/Arsenal to progress for our league title aspirations.

Ugh, conflict of interest

That's not conflict of interest. That's cognitive dissonance, perhaps?

by Fuchsteufelswild Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:33 am

I have a similar mental situation. On one hand, I want Mesut to silence all his haters, however doubtful that is if they play AMs next to him who don't make runs, on the other hand I want Bayern to completely dominate them. I'm trying to think of result that would adequately satisfy both of these mental desires. hmm

by lszanto Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:47 am

Natalie Portman wrote:On one hand, I love seeing all English teams getting raped in Europe, on the other hand, I want City/Chelsea/Arsenal to progress for our league title aspirations.

Ugh, conflict of interest

If English teams get raped in Europe it just makes the whole league look bad and thus making Liverpool's efforts in making the top 4 no big deal. If English teams do well then it makes what Liverpool are doing very impressive but you have to deal with your rivals doing well.

by DeletedUser#1 Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:05 am

I don't give a damn about the too 4 Isanzto mate. It's the title or nothing for me. So I guess our chances of winning the title increases with English sides progressing in CL and having more fixture congestion.

by Bellabong Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:47 am

Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Natalie Portman wrote:On one hand, I love seeing all English teams getting raped in Europe, on the other hand, I want City/Chelsea/Arsenal to progress for our league title aspirations.

Ugh, conflict of interest

That's not conflict of interest. That's cognitive dissonance, perhaps?

Nah, cognitive dissonance the experience of believing in contradictory things. Most commonly happens to religious folk who actually take the time to read their holy texts.

The term you're looking for is ambivalence.