Re: Wilshere charged by FA

by Busby Babe Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:18 pm

BBC wrote:Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere has been charged by the Football Association over an alleged gesture made during the fixture with Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium on Saturday.

by RealGunner Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:41 pm

But i thought English players don't get charged scratch

by McAgger Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:00 pm

RealGunner wrote:But i thought English players don't get charged

There was a precedent. The FA couldn't get away had they not charged Wilshere.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:18 pm

Of course they do Laughing

Because Liverpool fans have the world is against us BS mentality doesn't mean English players get away with things.

Suarez was banned repeatedly because he repeatedly acts like a c*ntbag no other reason.

Deal with it.

by DeletedUser#1 Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:21 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Of course they do

Because Liverpool fans have the world is against us BS mentality doesn't mean English players get away with things.

Suarez was banned repeatedly because he repeatedly acts like a c*ntbag no other reason.

Deal with it.

Yea. the same mentality that got Defoe a yellow card for biting Mascherano, and Suarez 10 match ban for biting Ivanovic.

give over Laughing

by McAgger Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:25 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Of course they do

Because Liverpool fans have the world is against us BS mentality doesn't mean English players get away with things.

Suarez was banned repeatedly because he repeatedly acts like a c*ntbag no other reason.

Deal with it.

Poverty post Moal, expect better from you.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:02 pm

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/fa-statement-jack-wilshere

Arsenal midfield player Jack Wilshere has been charged by The FA with making an offensive and/or insulting and/or abusive gesture.

The charge follows an alleged gesture made during the fixture between Manchester City and Arsenal at the Etihad Stadium on Saturday, December 14. The incident was not seen by match officials but was caught on video.

Wilshere has been charged retrospectively by The FA under a new pilot project for potential ‘not seen’ incidents in Premier League matches.

Under the new process, if an incident has not been seen by the match officials, a three-man panel will be asked by The FA to review it and advise what, if any action, they believe the match referee should have taken had it been witnessed at the time.

For an FA charge to follow, all three panel members must agree it is a sending-off offence. In this instance, the panel were unanimous.

Wilshere has until 6pm on December 18 to respond to the charge.

by Robespierre Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:12 pm

rightly .. Suarez was banned for the same thing against Fulham 2 years ago....

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:19 pm

RealGunner wrote:But i thought English players don't get charged

No they only get half the sentence

by EL Patron Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:30 pm

how can you ban someone for swearing, a fine would have been sufficient.

by McAgger Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:32 pm

EL Patron wrote:how can you ban someone for swearing, a fine would have been sufficient.

it was because of the middle finger to the fans.

by RealGunner Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:20 pm

Well worth it

by DuringTheWar Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:22 pm

Adebayor sprinted 80 yards to celebrate a goal in front of the other teams fans. I guarantee that caused far more aggravation than that gesture. But he got no ban for it.

Priorities are all over the place, trivial stuff always seems to be disproportionately punished nowadays (in most aspects of life)

by Eman Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:29 pm

DuringTheWar wrote:Adebayor sprinted 80 yards to celebrate a goal in front of the other teams fans. I guarantee that caused far more aggravation than that gesture. But he got no ban for it.

Priorities are all over the place, trivial stuff always seems to be disproportionately punished nowadays (in most aspects of life)

+1

by Forza Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:13 pm

Eman wrote:
DuringTheWar wrote:Adebayor sprinted 80 yards to celebrate a goal in front of the other teams fans. I guarantee that caused far more aggravation than that gesture. But he got no ban for it.

Priorities are all over the place, trivial stuff always seems to be disproportionately punished nowadays (in most aspects of life)
+1

Surely you jest... Players can celebrate wherever they want on the field, but celebrating does not include offensive gestures. You can't charge someone for causing aggravation if what they have done is not offensive in the first place. We might as well ban scoring goals because that will aggravate fans of the other team. Laughing

by The Franchise Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:18 pm

Fans can say whatever the f-uck they like, with no issues. Dude flips the bird and its a "sending off offence" Laughing

Soft.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:23 pm

The Franchise wrote:Fans can say whatever the f-uck they like, with no issues. Dude flips the bird and its a "sending off offence"

Soft.

The FA can't really control fans, but it can control players. And had the ref seen Wilshere flip off the fans 9 out of 10 times it would have been an automatic red card.

by The Franchise Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:26 pm

A red for that? As I said, soft.

Its nothing, noone cares. The fan/s it was directed at probably laughed.

I dont care the fans cant get punished for the sometimes vile and disgusting things they say, its part and parcel of football I suppose, but when a player does something so small and meaningless (probably because of something vile and disgusted levelled at him) and he gets punished so severely for it...dont make sense to me.

by Forza Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:50 pm

Players are expected to be role models on the field. It wouldn't really be playing the game in the right spirit if players were allowed to do such things without some sort of punishment. It may not have been offensive to the fans, they were probably proud of themselves for getting a reaction, but it's not something a little kid who's watching the game needs to see.

by MJ Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:06 am

Well that's why the players are professionals. Guess you could look at it two ways: they shouldn't disrespect the fans who are paying to watch them play

or, the fans shouldn't be so thick as to disrespect the players they're paying to watch. As long as they're consistent with their banning, meh.

But since they insisted on this ban and said nothing about the officiating of that match then the FA can do one.

by Lex Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:16 am

Just like imitation chicken isn't actually chicken, so to are City fans not actually people, so don't see why this matters

by MJ Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:21 am

True, they'll forget all about this next week when they're Chelsea fans.

by Lex Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:23 am

This "players are expected to be role models" argument

Brb organizing an orgy

Brb smoking some weed

Brb partying 'till dawn with slags

Brb hiring a Thai prostitute

Brb buying my dog a gold covered bodywarmer

But flip the bird and, suddenly, the entire spirit of the game comes into question Laughing

Not that i agree with Wilshere's actions, but a bit of common sense is needed here

by The Franchise Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:43 am

Role model stuff never makes sense, these are football players. They kick the ball around, thats it. They arent responsible for bringing up the youth of today. Refer to the Charles Barkley commercial for more on that.

And lets be real, there probably isnt a single boy in Manchester who's PARENTS havent told him to "fark off, ye lille' shite"..let alone be distraught and question the meaning of life because some Arsenal player flipped bird.

Matter of fact, I didnt even see it happen untill the media made it a "thing".

I get it, cant do stuff like that on the field, yada yada.

Fine him, whatever...but red card offence? Seriously?

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:02 am

I don't really agree with the role model things... off the pitch. But on the pitch they have an ethical obligation to behave in such a way that represents their employers' values.

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