- Il Polpo Paul | Paul Pogba

I am not happy to hear marrota say that we may lose him when a big offer comes in the future... (cuz we can't give him the big wages)

Marotta did however admit that the financial reality of Italian football could one day see Paul Pogba leave the club.

“Pogba? We’ll do everything to keep him.

“The problem could be the salaries that might be offered to him, which might not be compatible with our League.

“However, at the moment we’re not thinking about selling him.”
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That is what I mean...

Personally I believe Pogba has 2 to 3 more years in Juventus. Even though he is crack, he is still not fully develop, so technically in Juventus he does not need to perform week in and week out. If he were to leave for a mammoth 60 - 100m pound fee plus his wages, he will be expected to perform weekly, and he is still not ready for that. Besides, juve sell him today or 3 years and they will get the same fee....

Juve got Pogba to extend with the understanding that, if Pogba asks to leave and a certain minimum fee is reached, they'd let him go.  It's not a release clause in the sense that there's no number... it's called a "good faith" clause where Juve are required to negotiate in good faith. That's why you see the manager/executives keep that fans' expectations managed since they don't know what offers may come...

i don't think Pogba wants to leave. But if a club offers him 2x the wages, that might change...

15:28 - HERE'S HOW THE JUVE MAY INVEST MONEY FROM THE SALE OF Pogba - The market experts of Sky Sports have tried to form a formation composed of any purchases that Juventus could do with the money made ​​from the sale of Pogba. In goal there would obviously Buffon before him in the rear 4 would play Lichtsteiner, Bonucci and Chiellini, while on the left you could buy Rodriguez Wolfsburg. In midfield with Marchisio and Vidal, Marotta could enter Verratti. While on the frontline Juve could take from Isco Real, just in a possible exchange with Pogba. In attack alongside Tevez could, however, get Cavani.

sportsczy wrote:Juve got Pogba to extend with the understanding that, if Pogba asks to leave and a certain minimum fee is reached, they'd let him go.  It's not a release clause in the sense that there's no number... it's called a "good faith" clause where Juve are required to negotiate in good faith. That's why you see the manager/executives keep that fans' expectations managed since they don't know what offers may come...

i don't think Pogba wants to leave. But if a club offers him 2x the wages, that might change...

Actually with the last extension it's all down to our terms and nothing else, Marotta said billion times if Bale is worth 100m than so is Pogba.

Manchester United offer €80 million to take Pogba in June (via La Stampa)

Marotta is driving the auction up...  but wages are the issue.  Contractually, Juve are obligated to match wage offers if they're a certain percentage more than the current wage he's getting or they have to negotiate his exit in good faith.  It's not an exit clause (because Juve didn't want to set that precedent)... but it's the next closest thing.

PSG and Raiola clients sign similar contracts (Matuidi and Ibra), which is where this is coming from.

That's why Marotta keeps mentioning Juve not being able to pay the high wages if they come in...

I say sell him and move forward as a club. But if we aren't gonna buy the necessary quality to improve the team with Pogba money then don't sell him.

Marcelo Lippi believes Juventus would benefit from selling Paul Pogba

Marcelo Lippi believes that Juventus should cash in on Paul Pogba so that they have the funds to by other players, reports Goal.

The 21-year old Frenchman has become one of Juventus’ pivotal players over the last few seasons as the Old Lady have dominated Italian football and he recently signed a new deal that keeps him at the club until 2019, amid constant talk of him joining Manchester United or Chelsea, as per the Express.

Lippi, who is the former boss of the Turin based club, did say it would be a loss if Juventus were to sell Pogba but using the money from his sale would massively improve their squad.

Lippi said, “Of course, it would be a big sacrifice to lose Pogba, but selling him would generate enough money to buy three or four great players to help improve the team,”

“When I returned to Juventus in 2001, I got a call that the club were going to sell Zidane. He was the best player of the world, but Madrid were paying €75 million.

“The club told me to remain calm and that they would reinvest all the money in the squad. We eventually signed Gianluigi Buffon, Lilian Thuram and Pavel Nedved and continued to win silverware.”

Pogba has scored five goals in 16 apperances this season in Serie A including a great strike against Verona on Sunday night which kept Juventus five points clear of Roma at the top of the table.

Juventus have also progressed to the knock-out stages of the Champions League, something they failed to do last season after falling short at the group stages but with Pogba now a more prominent and effective player for Juventus they will be looking to see off Dortmund in this year’s last 16 and go all the way to Berlin in May.

Pogba has created 24 chances in Serie A for Juventus this season

He stays or he leaves it's still a win-win situation for us even though personally I would like to keep him in our teams for the years to come.

Yet we must accept no less than around 100 mln, this guy is already insanely talented at just 21 years imagine when he reaches his peak...we'll be sad to loose an superb player but we can spend some cash on other promising players like R.Rodriguez,Lacazette,Perin,Depay,Umtiti,Balanta,Firmino etc. just to name a few plus we can get Berardi and we will have Coman ready to explode and follow the steps of Pogba.

No man, the point of selling pogba is to got world class proven players, not other talents.

salmano9 wrote:No man, the point of selling pogba is to got world class proven players, not other talents.

Ya but at the same time we don't need players that are too old, or almost 30 (27 is not a great age to sign a player for long term). Anyways, I would like Juventus to keep Pogba. Also, Lacazette, Firmino, Rodriguez and Depay are proven players. Depay might still be young but he looks like he's going to be a star.

Depay has interest from the Premier League

United, Spurs being 2 of the teams

He would be hard and likely expensive given the other interest...not to mention his familiarity with LVG from the Dutch National team

Lacazette is only 23 too...  He had 22 goals last season and he has 23 goals/5 assists in 25 games for Lyon this year.  In fact, his pace is not far to set a Ligue 1 record for goals scored in a season.  Only Papin (30) and Ibra (30) have managed to score 30 goals in a season in Ligue 1 since 1980.  The record is 44 in 1971 by Skoblar...

sportsczy wrote:Lacazette is only 23 too...  He had 22 goals last season and he has 23 goals/5 assists in 25 games for Lyon this year.  In fact, his pace is not far to set a Ligue 1 record for goals scored in a season.  Only Papin (30) and Ibra (30) have managed to score 30 goals in a season in Ligue 1 since 1980.  The record is 44 in 1971 by Skoblar...

He can be the next benzema though?

Very different players. Benz is a creator first and a striker second. Lacazette's style is reminiscent of the CFs of old... think Romario, Makay, etc.

salmano9 wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Lacazette is only 23 too...  He had 22 goals last season and he has 23 goals/5 assists in 25 games for Lyon this year.  In fact, his pace is not far to set a Ligue 1 record for goals scored in a season.  Only Papin (30) and Ibra (30) have managed to score 30 goals in a season in Ligue 1 since 1980.  The record is 44 in 1971 by Skoblar...

He can be the next benzema though?

I would love it if Lacazette joined Juventus.

@sportsczy, Any idea how much he costs? Can Juventus afford him? I remember him saying he'd love to play for Juve at one point last year.

sportsczy wrote:Very different players. Benz is a creator first and a striker second. Lacazette's style is reminiscent of the CFs of old... think Romario, Makay, etc.

Benzema a creator? I thought he is a pure striker.

100m in Marotta's hands is 100m ways to make Udinese and Sassuolo rich....

oh and another 100m 1m loan with option to buy for 12m on 100m mediocre players, I would rather keep Pogba than hand Marotta that opportunity....

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:100m in Marotta's hands is 100m ways to make Udinese and Sassuolo rich....

oh and another 100m 1m loan with option to buy for 12m on 100m mediocre players, I would rather keep Pogba than hand Marotta that opportunity....

I don't recall Juve selling anyone big for big money in the Marotta years, so the fact that he's bought cheaply some players from Udinese and Sassuolo without selling anyone does not mean that he would do the same if you sold Pogba for 100M.

I mean, I know Marotta from his Sampdoria days, that's his thing, getting all the most promising young players as some of them will turn out to be gem and judging from Pogba, Coman, Rugani, Berardi (just to name a few) sometimes it pays off. But neither he, Agnelli nor Allegri are so stupid to sell Pogba for huge money and not buy WC players all over the pitch and improve the team overally to replace him.

salmano9 wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Very different players. Benz is a creator first and a striker second. Lacazette's style is reminiscent of the CFs of old... think Romario, Makay, etc.

Benzema a creator? I thought he is a pure striker.

Not at all. He's a false 9 to the core... He only shoots 2,3 times a game on average. And the last 3 seasons, he has 15, 20 and 14 assists. This season, he already has 12 assists and averages 2 key passes a game (passes that lead to a shot).

With Ronaldo and now Bale, he's basically playing the 10 hole 2/3 of the time.

As far as Lacazette... he'd cost 40 mil.

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:100m in Marotta's hands is 100m ways to make Udinese and Sassuolo rich....

oh and another 100m 1m loan with option to buy for 12m on 100m mediocre players, I would rather keep Pogba than hand Marotta that opportunity....

This is so so very very true. Ive been defending him for all the years but every time i knew in the back of my mind that he was the most provincial type of all sportdirectors we could ever have.

At least we all know that 100 mill is wasted in marottas hands cause each and every negotiation he has been doing is reported minute by minute in the press. This means that when time comes every club knows Juve has money and are desperate to sign some quality hence the price goes up alot. Back when Moggi bought Neddy Lillian and Gigi the negotiations where finalised when the news on zidane broke out.

Take a minute and think about the numerous co-ownership he has been doing gaining nothing but a lot of work and at the same time completely failing in filling the depth with some quality youth instead of buying mediocre players.

This has been going on for too long with discussions back and forth when fact is marotta is utter C*R*A*P and started his Juve adventure by bringing in the fabtastic del neri. But then again credits go to our beloved president for being a fake all the way thru.

BoBo wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:100m in Marotta's hands is 100m ways to make Udinese and Sassuolo rich....

oh and another 100m 1m loan with option to buy for 12m on 100m mediocre players, I would rather keep Pogba than hand Marotta that opportunity....

This is so so very very true. Ive been defending him for all the years but every time i knew in the back of my mind that he was the most provincial type of all sportdirectors we could ever have.

At least we all know that 100 mill is wasted in marottas hands cause each and every negotiation he has been doing is reported minute by minute in the press. This means that when time comes every club knows Juve has money and are desperate to sign some quality hence the price goes up alot. Back when Moggi bought Neddy Lillian and Gigi the negotiations where finalised when the news on zidane broke out.

Take a minute and think about the numerous co-ownership he has been doing gaining nothing but a lot of work and at the same time completely failing in filling the depth with some quality youth instead of buying mediocre players.

This has been going on for too long with discussions back and forth when fact is marotta is utter C*R*A*P and started his Juve adventure by bringing in the fabtastic del neri. But then again credits go to our beloved president for being a fake all the way thru.

excuse me how do we know that? when has marotta spend 100milion budget to judge him?  Stop with the moggi era thing, back then Serie A was the best league in the world, Juve had huge profits and the stadiums were always full and 2006 didn't happen. The sad true is that Marotta has been working every summer with 20 million budget that's why we pay transfers in installments. Napoli spend shit load of money after the sale of Cavani and look at them and the quality of their squad.It was so easy for Moggi to buy players with the money, the league strong. It seems that all of you are keen to forget the missed signings that moggi made just because he had money to take another player, back then player loved to play in the world strongest Serie A league. Also you remember the ones (bad signings) that only marotta made. Also you are also keen to mention the bad signings like Martinez, Rinaudo, Krasic but you also forget Pogba, Llorente, Vidal, Pirlo, Licht, Tevez, Barzagli. All of you were wet when we signed Isla/Giovinco and now that he flopped you start to blame Marotta, you judge Pereyra who didn't even finish a season with us for who all of the journalist, critics, sites call him great player with great future even he gets games for Argentina in a position where Di Maria plays ffs.

ohh this forum is ....


@Katy kudos to you

Lol, you guys know how competitive the attack of the Argentine squad is? So, it is really impressive to see preyeyra i there...

salmano9 wrote:Lol, you guys know how competitive the attack of the Argentine squad is? So, it is really impressive to see preyeyra i there...

But I think the games he played were only friendlies. I also think that he wouldn't be playing instead of Di Maria and will instead be playing alongside him and probably taking Perezs or Biglia's position at CM. I do agree he's a good player, but he needs to work on some things still. I also kind of agree with the fact that we don't know what will happen with the Marotta situation. If you were to give him 100 million who knows how he'll spend it since it doesn't seem as though he can spend a lot of money every year. He seems to be good at agreeing a deal with the players, so maybe with a good amount of money he can finalise a deal with the club too. But then again that's only IF we sell Pogba and I would rather have him stay.