Re: FC Barcelona - Celtic | Champions League Group H | Wed Dec 11th, 2013

by futbol Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:24 pm

lol, first time in a while where I can say I actually agree with my discussion partner. jibbers. Proud

by jibers Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:27 pm

futbol wrote:lol, first time in a while where I can say I actually agree with my discussion partner. jibbers.

by futbol Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:31 pm

jibers wrote:Basically Pep always wanted them to draw opposition towards them and release the ball as late as they could so it was harder for the opposition to recover.

This is a very good point by the way because you can clearly see that in Iniesta's game under Martino now. Martino wants him to release the ball quickly so we can play quicker transitions when needed. Fabregas does that very well because that's how he always played anyway. Iniesta though still plays in Pepcelona mode, takes the ball and holds on to it to drag defenders to him when releasing the ball quickly for runners would be the better option. The main reason why Fabregas is arguably our most in-form midfielder right now and Iniesta the least in-form.

by futbol Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:48 pm

As for the game:

Barcelona line-up (official): Pinto - Montoya Pique Mascherano Adriano - Xavi Busquets SergiRoberto - Pedro Neymar Alexis

Sergi. :bow:

We will get raped at corners with Mascherano in the side. :bow:

by jibers Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:49 pm

futbol wrote:
jibers wrote:Basically Pep always wanted them to draw opposition towards them and release the ball as late as they could so it was harder for the opposition to recover.

This is a very good point by the way because you can clearly see that in Iniesta's game under Martino now. Martino wants him to release the ball quickly so we can play quicker transitions when needed. Fabregas does that very well because that's how he always played anyway. Iniesta though still plays in Pepcelona mode, takes the ball and holds on to it to drag defenders to him when releasing the ball quickly for runners would be the better option. The main reason why Fabregas is arguably our most in-form midfielder right now and Iniesta the least in-form.

Exactly. Same thing with Xavi. There are times when either could release a player but they do little pelopinas and pass backwards sideways.

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:15 pm

danyjr wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Sampaoli is also a disciple and admirer of Bielsa
He has surpassed his master.

You ready to say that based on the 10 or so games he's had Chile for? I'm a fan of his since his U de Chile days and would love to see him at River, but I think you're overhyping him.

by windkick Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:34 pm

Now this is more like it! No reason as to why Neymar shouldn't be the automatic first choice to play as the CF when Messi is out. It's like night and day between when Neymar and Cesc play there. Surely Tata must also see this

by futbol Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:36 pm

What a game. Pepcelona would be proud. :bow:

DAT tiki-Tata. :bow:

by danyjr Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:38 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
danyjr wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Sampaoli is also a disciple and admirer of Bielsa
He has surpassed his master.
You ready to say that based on the 10 or so games he's had Chile for? I'm a fan of his since his U de Chile days and would love to see him at River, but I think you're overhyping him.

I wasn't 100% serious, but I admire the way his Chile plays and I think he'll do well in the future. Had it not been for Chile's World Cup group I would have tipped him to become a bigger legend than Loco in Chile.

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:56 pm

I'm not sure anyone will become bigger than Bielsa in Chile because he is the one that started the mentality shift, the rest are continuing on his work. But obviously a good WC might change that.

Nerman with a beautiful one touch football goal. :bow:

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:01 pm

Is this Forster the same one that GOATed against us last season? Laughing

by danyjr Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:03 pm

Golazo de Neymar. He's so good at doing the ball rolling with his feet. Very similar to Thiago's signature dribble.

by danyjr Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:17 pm

Having said that, he screwed up two goals by being very selfish.

by harhar11 Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:39 pm

I would say that Sampaoli has to win the WC for him to be considered better than Bielsa by the fans, which won't happen..

Great game by Neymar!!

by Winter is Coming Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:41 pm

Nerman was great and its good for his confidence that he scored a hat trick today, we got Villarreal on Sat. For all the complaining people do on Xavi. I don't seem to understand why Martino didn't replace early in the second half.

by Donuts Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:48 pm

It also helped Neymar to be rested for a full week finally, he was being overused
glad to see him scoring more then one goal a game Smile

by RealGunner Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:38 pm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbPQYlTCIAAMBcS.jpg

by Donuts Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:40 pm

lmao.. so long as he keeps scoring like he does i don't care what he wears.
the nutmeg on the third goal though :bow:

by Khaled Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:09 pm

Finally Neymar!!!!

great game by the whole team. Now win the games against Villareal and Getafe.... with Messi back next month everything should be fine....

by free_cat Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:28 pm

Very good game, we played well and I liked that we transitioned fast vs a team that kinda parked the bus.

Now Tata just needs to prove we can play from the back vs. a team that pressures us and play players not based on status. So far he hasn't (Mascherano over Bartra - in the stands - today again, Roberto only played because there wasn't any other option...).

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:47 pm

Song was an option Free... I think his starting Sergi is worthy of note. I do agree with Masche. I think/hope that Martino sees Bartra more in the Pique mold and perhaps he is not quite ready to bench Pique for him. When Bartra plays alongside Puyol this is the role he has been good at. But it might be favoritism.

by CBarca Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:24 am

Have only watched the first half so far, will watch the second by the end of tonight probably.

I was busy so I told myself I'll watch the first 10 minutes, ended up loving watching the game too much and stayed for the whole of the first half. Would have stayed for the second but had other commitments. Football being played was fantastic Thumbs up

Celtic looked terrible though. Hell they were even bad at clearing the ball. Loved the Alexis chip to Montoya for the third goal, very Iniesta-like. He's really come into his own this year.

by free_cat Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:53 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Song was an option Free... I think his starting Sergi is worthy of note. I do agree with Masche. I think/hope that Martino sees Bartra more in the Pique mold and perhaps he is not quite ready to bench Pique for him. When Bartra plays alongside Puyol this is the role he has been good at. But it might be favoritism.

Bartra has been fantastic when playing with Pique too.

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