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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:47 am

14:45 EST | 19:45 GMT | 20:45 CET

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Post by Donuts Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:54 am

Well.. we need a tie at home with a rested Xavi / Iniesta / Neymar / Dani Alves / Pique and Mascherano there should be no excuse on that.
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Post by Khaled Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:44 pm

If we lose and Milan fails to win vs Ajax we'll still top the group Very Happy
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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:07 pm

Khaled wrote:If we lose and Milan fails to win vs Ajax we'll still top the group Very Happy
The fact that we are considering this possibility makes you wonder about the current state of our team.
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Post by Khaled Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:48 pm

its just a joke Laughing
Barcelona are doing fine so far, with Valdes and Messi back in January, they'll be back to their best...

3 wins vs Celtic, Vilareal and Getafe all we need now without Messi & Valdes.
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Post by futbol Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:59 pm

Losing to Celtic? Stahp. Tito isn't coaching anymore.

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Post by windkick Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:53 pm

A draw is god enough for us to top the group right?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:02 pm

Yes.

Hoping for:

Pinto
Montoya - Puyol - Barta - Alba
Cesc - Busi - Iniesta
Pedro - Neymar - Alexis

Of course everything points to having Cesc play as F9 because had a great game vs a 3rd division side in that position...
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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:03 pm

futbol wrote:Losing to Celtic? Stahp. Tito isn't coaching anymore.
Pathetic saying stuff about Tito like this. Show some respect to the man. He won a league for us although all the problems and up to this point of the season he was doing better than Tata (and playing better) with no Neymar.
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Post by Donuts Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:28 pm

Tito also gave us a los of 7-0 to Bayern.. and zero victories over Madrid.
Tito has done better currently with no neymar?? he had a fit Messi
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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:37 pm

Tito was not responsible for Bayern....dont be redicilous ffs.

Messi was fit against Bayern? When?
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Post by Donuts Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:43 pm

read Freecats post that Tito has done better then Tata up to now and with neymar in the team..
the comparison is still bad as the first couple months Tito was manager he had a fit Messi whereas Tata does not.. I would take Messi over Neymar.
did you also ignore the zerio victories over Madrid? or is he not to blame either? only Tata is to blame if we fail xD
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Post by Winter is Coming Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:47 pm

Why all the blame on Tito? He made some mistakes like many others, but at the end can you try coaching a club like Barcelona, while battling cancer? He offered to step down, but Rosell said no and wanted him to continue. We should not blame him for everything, as these players equally deserve to take some blame.
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Post by futbol Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:49 pm

This was the game at the beginning of the season where you could already sense that we would lose 0-7 at some point later on in the season under Tito.


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Post by Winter is Coming Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:51 pm

Donuts wrote:read Freecats post that Tito has done better then Tata up to now and with neymar in the team..
the comparison is still bad as the first couple months Tito was manager he had a fit Messi whereas Tata does not.. I would take Messi over Neymar.
did you also ignore the zerio victories over Madrid? or is he not to blame either? only Tata is to blame if we fail xD
Tito still wrapped the league up with no Messi, were as Barcelona could've dropped points Messi didn't play much the last few games. Barcelona have faced inferior teams, which even Tito side could've won without Messi. At this point last season I recall Tito had 1-1-1 record VS RM. If you put into the factor we faced RM in the Super Cup and Tito would've won that if it wasn't for Valdes mistake.
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Post by Donuts Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:56 pm

Tito wrapped up the league because Messi had his most consistant year ever scoring against every single team in a row.
Tito also failed to win against ANY big team, Roura did a better job then he did.
sure Tito wrapped up the league with what.. a 13 point lead? hardly an achievement.
we won the league based more on Madrid's errors vs small team then our success.

and to add more to injury, Tito lacked rotation, costed us Thiago.

I feel for the guy, as he is going through a hard time with cancer and its unfortunate but if you wanna compare him with Tata you gotta stop bringing that up.
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Post by futbol Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:04 pm

Tito will go down as the worst coach in Barca history tbh.

1-3 in Camp Nou against Real Madrid.
0-7 Bayern.
0 shots on target against PSG at home. Had to sub in injured Messi.
Worst defensive record since Gaspart era.
Lost to Madrid's B team with Özil, Ronaldo, Alonso on the bench.
Didn't show trust in Thiago (played Xavi even after wrapping up the league) so we lost him. And then made silly comments afterwards "we only want players who want to be here, like Cesc".

League was won because Messi was projected to break the all time goalscoring record in league football before he got injured. Something like 10 consecutive braces. Laughing Tito tactics didn't win any games.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:07 pm

How can you put all the blame on Tito when he wasn't even coach for 1/2 the season? scratch
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Post by futbol Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:14 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:How can you put all the blame on Tito when he wasn't even coach for 1/2 the season? scratch
Should have known this beforehand and never applied tbh.

Pep: "Goodbye, I need 1 year break of football, lost all my hair coaching Barca. Too stressful."

Tito: "Hi guise, cancer patient reporting in. Ima coach dis team, no problem."


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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:24 pm

My point was that futbol was treating Tito as a shit coach, and he isn't, not about who is better Tata or Tito.

Very disrepectful to the guy that had the balls to take over after Pep and win a league.

But what do you expect from the most arrogant poster in our section...
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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:26 pm

futbol wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:How can you put all the blame on Tito when he wasn't even coach for 1/2 the season? scratch
Should have known this beforehand and never applied tbh.

Pep: "Goodbye, I need 1 year break of football, lost all my hair coaching Barca. Too stressful."

Tito: "Hi guise, cancer patient reporting in. Ima coach dis team, no problem."

Yeah, like people have cancer prognosis crystal balls in their homes. Please, go f*ck yourself, you are disrespectful to tito and everyone that suffers a cancer for suggesting they can't try to have any goals in life afterwards.
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Post by eelir Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:04 pm

I do not get how can people blame Tito, also I do not get all the hate on Tata. People seam to forget that Tito was sick, and Tata had no preseason to instill any of his ideas. He is working that out while being on competition. The only thing i can blame Tata is that he does not seam to punish the lazy guys in the team just because they are stars (looking at Pique, Masche and Cesc at f9)
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Post by Khaled Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:05 pm

WTF... disgusting! How can you blame Tito?!
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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:18 pm

Jesus. Some truly awful logic.

I aint got no reply to this.
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Post by jibers Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:22 pm

I get what futbol is trying to say, he has come across as a bit nasty though. I still stand by it when i say Tito was a pretty crap coach. Even at the start of the season where he was 'fine' there was no mf rotation and Messi was basically the reason Barcelona were winning.

I think now people can see that it was Pep that made Barcelona play that way. Problem is that a lot of Barcelona fans want the team to play the way they did under Pep. It's not going to happen. Tata will instill his own ideas and he needs a fresher squad, but as usually that fat sack of shit Zubi will do *bleep* all.

Awkward situation for the club.
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