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Post by RedOranje Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:28 am

This isn't a thread centered around match discussion or banter though, and you know that as well as I do.

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Post by McAgger Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:30 am

Btw I don't want people to confuse this as our match day thread. So I call for this to be competently locked or merged with some other thread or something if possible.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:53 am

RedOranje wrote:This isn't a thread centered around match discussion or banter though, and you know that as well as I do.
It's got match discussion in it, too, and that would only increase towards the game, but whatever you say...
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Post by El Jefe Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:25 am

Nobody expects their team to win Laughing 

I'm not sure if we can afford to play a 1-2 midfield like we did against WBA. They didn't play with a #10 so Lucas didn't have much to do defensively. Arsenal will play with Ozil right in that space and I can't see Lucas being able to deal with him. Not to mention they might have the two footed Cazorla cutting in to that space. Cazorla and Ozil going two on one with Lucas would be a disaster for us.

I also think Agger needs to be back in the team, we'll probably have less of the ball than Arsenal so we need to be able to keep it when we do have it. Chances are there'll be times in the match when we're forced back, with Skrtel we seem to drop deeper and deeper when that happens, everything becomes last ditch.
Agger doesn't get much credit because he's not in there making desperate tackles, he's more of a proactive defender in some ways, when he's in the side we don't allow the attacks to get as far as we do when he's not there.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:51 am

Jesus......we can no longer even have the banter (what used to make GL the best place).

For special games, it's always good to have it all for people of other fans, etc to comment too. I can change the title so it won't be re-jinxing, so you can move it back to general section.

Sometimes, you want more than just the boring tactical discussion. I change the thread title, and RedO, please move it back to general Smile

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:04 am

McAgger wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Raptorgunner wrote:I agree, I take a point now. Liverpool striker force is too much for any team to handle. Laughing
I wouldn't say that.... they are both fantastic but can be dealt with.

We did for 70 mins until our 10 men started to tire..... the key is to press and not allow much space between the lines and suffocate the midfield.

You can definitely handle them if you play to your best and go in with the correct game plan.

Well one huge difference against you guys was that we had Moses playing in the hole as the creator Laughing

It's a different story with Coutinho back, or even Hendo playing in that role.
True but still at the same time Arsenal are a million times better than us.... will be a close game anyway and i look forward to watching it Thumbs up
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Post by Helmer Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:55 am

SAS going to destroy their midfield but we will still lose

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Post by McAgger Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:19 am

I think it will be an obligatory 1-1 between the two teams. Hoping for a miracle, if we can win this somehow we will be in such a good position. Our next 5 games after this are very winnable. Massive massive game to test us.
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Post by Red Alert Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:39 pm

Again, depending on their fitness I think we have a real chance. I mean, a lot of people are overrating Arsenal right now. They haven't played anyone that could of exactly tested their actual quality just yet. We've already played United in the league, which "top" team have Arsenal played? This will be their biggest game so far this season. Sure they had Chelsea in the league cup but both teams rested players.

It's the battle of the final thirds. Henderson is a MUST in midfield.

Arsenal will open us up with ease if we play a 3 man defence as Ozil, Cazorla and Wilshere can all play the number 10 role. Especially with Cissokho at LB. SAS can terrorise anyone, I really hope we get the right Sturridge and not the "I want to score and do everyone on my own" one.

Arteta will be able to play .
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Post by Nishankly Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:18 pm

Mole hates us, Borini made it worse Mad
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Post by Helmer Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:27 pm

Gunners aim to schackle SAS wrote:Thomas Vermaelen is confident Arsenal will be able to contain Liverpool's deadly 'SAS' strike-force of Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge.

"We know them from the past. We played a lot against Luis Suarez already, and of course I know him from my time in Ajax," said Vermaelen, who himself is unlikely to feature against Liverpool after dropping behind Laurent Koscielny and Per Mertesacker in the pecking order.

"Sturridge we played against last season. We know them both, they are playing well and quite dangerous. But now we need to keep going like we did the last couple of weeks.

Vermaelen insists that Tuesday's League Cup defeat to Chelsea will not have a major impact on the them.

"We've had a lot of big games and a defeat shouldn't take our confidence away," he said.

Sturridge and Suarez: In fine form for Reds

"We need to build on the results we had previously. We have won more games than we lost.

"It's disappointing but we have a big game on Saturday and I am quite confident we can win that game.

"It's really important to respond quickly. It's good the game is on Saturday, and we can respond to the defeat.

"We are top of the league. We should have a lot of confidence to beat Liverpool."
It was a very bad thing for us that arsenal lost to chelsea on tue

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Post by Lex Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:37 pm

Red Alert wrote: I mean, a lot of people are overrating Arsenal right now
Stopped reading right there

Who is overrating us? All the praise thus far has been fair, level and relative to our performances. Overrating is when people say the league will be between Chelsea and City, who have both looked rocky at best in the league thus far
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:46 pm

Nishank wrote:Mole hates us, Borini made it worse Mad
Lol what about my posts could seriously constitute hate? all i said was i don't think Sturridge and Suarez are unstoppable and it will be a close game.

Hardly equals hate personally !
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Post by RedOranje Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:02 pm

Ignore Mole for the time being, Nish. He's just upset that two players he has repeatedly bashed put his club to the sword in the derby. Razz
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Post by Helmer Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:11 pm

Nishank wrote:Mole hates us, Borini made it worse Mad
I think i got it, what Nish was actually trying to do there Laughing

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Post by Red Alert Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:30 pm

Lex wrote:
Red Alert wrote: I mean, a lot of people are overrating Arsenal right now
Stopped reading right there

Who is overrating us? All the praise thus far has been fair, level and relative to our performances. Overrating is when people say the league will be between Chelsea and City, who have both looked rocky at best in the league thus far
You have played well, I never said you didn't. You really should of read the rest of the post.

As it stands, Chelsea is ahead. They're only one game behind and have already played City, Spuds and United and they've been "rocky". Arsenal haven't played anyone that is a threat to them yet. This is your biggest test this season. That's not to say LFC will win (personally think a draw comparing both teams rich form) but this is not an easy routine 3 point game for your lot.
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Post by Nishankly Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:53 pm

http://liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/148200-coutinho-given-all-clear-to-return

Coutinho will feature, Wont be suprised if he starts, Cissokho was thrown in as well last time out.

Enrique is major doubt.
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Post by Red Alert Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:28 am

We'll lose if he starts in a 3142.

Henderson NEEDS to play.
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Post by Helmer Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:33 pm

I would go with a 4-3-1-2 with all Hendo, Gerrard, Lucas and Cou starting. I think Cou already had two weeks of training as of now so he can start.
I think we can not play the same thing we played against WBA but I am sure BR would tinker a bit and change it...I have faith in BR for big games.


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Post by McAgger Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:39 pm

My personal preference for this game

Mignolet
Toure - Agger - Sakho
Lucas
Johnson - Gerrard - Hendo - Enrique
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Suarez - Sturridge

But we'll probably see Skrtel for Agger and Cissokho for Enrique. I wouldn't start Cou as it's only his first game back. Let him come off the bench and play against a tired defense I say.
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Post by McAgger Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:50 pm

Merte trying to turn
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Suarez should exploit that
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Post by Helmer Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:08 pm

Laughing I can see Mert geting raped if he starts...we just need to get the ball in and around 18 yard box somehow, i think

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:25 am

We'll most probably play the same team which we played against Brums.. I have no problems with that.

I think Arsenal are favorites for this game obviously but I don't think Mertesacker-Koscielny will be able to contain Suarez and Sturridge. We MUST make the most of it.
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Post by Art Morte Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:15 am

Head says we won't see the ball in our attacking third, heart believes that our forward talent will nick us a goal or two anyway.
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Post by Helmer Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:06 am

Art Morte wrote:Head says we won't see the ball in our attacking third, heart believes that our forward talent will nick us a goal or two anyway.
how diplomatic can someone be Laughing

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Post by iftikhar Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:50 am

I'm expecting some thing like this

----------Mignolet----------
----Toure-Agger-Shako----
Glen-----Lucas-----Enrique
----Gerrard-Henderson----
-----Sturridge-Suarez------

I don't know if Agger & Enrique has any fitness issues, but if they have Skrtel & Cissoko will take their places. Coutinho shouldn't be more than a sub.

Yes I know Macggi has already said whatever I mentioned. Talk about great minds :-p
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