2013/14 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I

donttreadonred wrote:

B-Mac wrote:

McAgger wrote:Man I hope we pounce on Jovetic ffs. He should come for dirt cheap. Poor guy hasn't had a sniff at City.

GL when Jovetic signed for City

"OMG Pellegrini going to play 4 strikers "

"Jovetic will play wing "

Me- "he will rot on the bench"

Putting quotes around something obviously means it's true...

As for Van Persie, what makes anyone think he'll be any more loyal to United than he was to Arsenal? RVP left Arsenal for a top club, one that was going to challenge for multiple honors each and every year. He want's FA Cups, League Titles, and Champions Leagues, not scrapping to get back into the CL. Children are notoriously fickle, especially when they're the little voices that are screaming in your head. His little child is probably shouting for "Bayern Munich", "Dortmund", "Juve", etc., basically anywhere that will get him what he wants.

The thing is with the Arsenal situation, RVP had a lot of the bargaining power, he was coming into the final year of his contract, so he really forced Wenger's hand. With Man Utd, it's quite the opposite, even if he wanted to leave he can't really do much about it. I don't know if he has a clause in contract saying 'at least a cl spot or he can talk to other clubs' etc. obviously that would make a difference but that is just pure speculation at this point.

Di Maria sold to Monaco for around 35m Euro

Both AS and Marca reporting the sale.

Busby Babe wrote:The thing is with the Arsenal situation, RVP had a lot of the bargaining power, he was coming into the final year of his contract, so he really forced Wenger's hand. With Man Utd, it's quite the opposite, even if he wanted to leave he can't really do much about it. I don't know if he has a clause in contract saying 'at least a cl spot or he can talk to other clubs' etc. obviously that would make a difference but that is just pure speculation at this point.

Now that is a legitimate argument. I'm not sure of RVP's contract status (years left, money, etc.). Therefore, I can't say for certain how much bargaining power he might have in trying to force a move away.

The big unknown in the situation is David Moyes. To be fair to the Scotsman, he really hasn't been tested in these sorts of situations. Sure, he's had players want to move away before. However, he hasn't been at a club (supposedly) capable of matching any offer in both financial and competitive terms. Wenger and Ferguson both had the resolve and know-how needed to navigate such situations. (Yes, Wenger lost a fair number, but at some point you do have to sell the player in order to recoup something.)

My feeling on the matter is that Moyes doesn't have the same resolve. I think that if he is put under pressure, Moyes would crack and grant the player his wish to leave. After years of being unable to hold onto want-away players, I believe he now has a mentality to let unhappy players go. Of course, this is merely my opinion, as no one can know for sure. Then again, if current form continues, we may see several of this sort of situation in the near future.

Crimson wrote:Di Maria sold to Monaco for around 35m Euro

Both AS and Marca reporting the sale.

MUSIC TO MY EYES&EARS !!!!!!!!!!

donttreadonred wrote:

Busby Babe wrote:The thing is with the Arsenal situation, RVP had a lot of the bargaining power, he was coming into the final year of his contract, so he really forced Wenger's hand. With Man Utd, it's quite the opposite, even if he wanted to leave he can't really do much about it. I don't know if he has a clause in contract saying 'at least a cl spot or he can talk to other clubs' etc. obviously that would make a difference but that is just pure speculation at this point.

Now that is a legitimate argument. I'm not sure of RVP's contract status (years left, money, etc.). Therefore, I can't say for certain how much bargaining power he might have in trying to force a move away.

The big unknown in the situation is David Moyes. To be fair to the Scotsman, he really hasn't been tested in these sorts of situations. Sure, he's had players want to move away before. However, he hasn't been at a club (supposedly) capable of matching any offer in both financial and competitive terms. Wenger and Ferguson both had the resolve and know-how needed to navigate such situations. (Yes, Wenger lost a fair number, but at some point you do have to sell the player in order to recoup something.)

My feeling on the matter is that Moyes doesn't have the same resolve. I think that if he is put under pressure, Moyes would crack and grant the player his wish to leave. After years of being unable to hold onto want-away players, I believe he now has a mentality to let unhappy players go. Of course, this is merely my opinion, as no one can know for sure. Then again, if current form continues, we may see several of this sort of situation in the near future.  

Well there was an instance of this just last summer, Rooney asked for a transfer request. SAF said if Rooney handed in a written transfer request he would lose out on his bonuses, thus only verbally asked for a transfer request. RVP might have the same clause in his contract. Also, after Moyes came out and said Rooney is not for sale, there were reports this summer that Rooney was 'angry' and 'confused' yet Moyes stood firm on his decision not to let him go. So I think when push comes to shove Moyes can be stubborn if need be.

"inside sources" have apparently told Mark Lawrenson that RVP has handed in a transfer request. Optimus Flo, roll out.

It's BS.

Get Lewandowski instead ffs

urbaNRoots wrote:It's BS.

Get Lewandowski instead ffs

I wouldn't be surprised tbh. United won't let him go anyway.
I hear that Falcao is going the opposite direction Di Mary is going. If true we won't go for him.

I think Wenger should try to bring Lewa to Arsenal

Arsenal can't compete with Buyern for a player, financially or purely football-wise, so unless Buyern suddenly don't want him anymore I can't see him going elsewhere.

urbaNRoots wrote:Arsenal can't compete with Buyern for a player, financially or purely football-wise, so unless Buyern suddenly don't want him anymore I can't see him going elsewhere.

you're right there, although you keep misspelling our name, Mr Arsellall fan.

Man City plot a £40m world-record bid for Bayern Munich goalie Manuel Neuer [Sunday Express]

why would Neuer leave the best team in the world currently for Man City..

Donuts wrote:why would Neuer leave the best team in the world currently for Man City..

he wouldn't

Bayern are capable of buying couple of ManCity oil refineries...
buying Neur

Barcelona looking at Porto defenders Otamendi and Mangala, according to Sport.

Mangala has a €50m release clause, while Otamendi has a €30m release clause.

Gündoğan has told Arsenal that he already has an agreement with Real Madrid for next season - elgoldigital

Glad he learned from Sahin....Oh wait.

50m for Mangala

We don't really need Gundogan with the midfielders we already have, unless of course Alonso's going. Even then there's Illarramendi and Isco who don't really start currently.

What is a 'Elgodigital' anyway?

Manuel to City, I wonder how they are even able to print this shit with a straight face.

What injury does Gundogan currently have? He hasn't played in a while, correct?

Back injury.

windkick wrote:What injury does Gundogan currently have? He hasn't played in a while, correct?

M99 wrote:Back injury.

been out the whole first half of season. that's why any transfer talk about him in the winter (already being nonsense in a world cup year) is completely idiotic.

Barcelona could make a €45m bid for van Persie, according to Sport.