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Post by Winter is Coming Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:40 pm

The Franchise wrote:No, he is much better than him. Mandzukic would be his back up. Obviously, I cant be 100% sure of that, it depends on performance. But no question he will play a bigger role at Bayern.

Pep is waffling, he said Lahm can play striker and Messi can play centerback. When he was out of work he said Falcao is the best striker in the world inside the box. Cant take what he says seriously.

And Messi cant play on the wing anyway, he will get upset because he wants to play middle and he wont track back.
True enough. I do believe Pep over exaggerated often, but in a way I see his point in what he's trying to say. At times theres are things he says to motivate his players, or give them confidence. I don't recall him saying CB, but as a left back in Messi case.

"Messi wins the ball playing as the false No.9. If you put him at left-back, he would be just as good. He is the best defender in the world," Guardiola told reporters.

I guess that would be the main problem handing over some else the centre role instead of Messi.

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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:56 am

Yeah leftback, I dont remember. But yes, your right. He is only saying it for a reason, that fully acceptable.

All I mean was, I dont think what he says about Mandzukic to be so literal. I am sure he really likes him, but if Lewa comes, he will play ahead of him I am quite sure.

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Post by CBarca Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:00 am

His mind is set on Bayern, and that's where he's going, that's the end of it.

Wouldn't mind him coming to Barca for free as I quite like Lewandowski, but it's just not going to happen.
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Post by Winter is Coming Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:44 am

The Franchise wrote:Yeah leftback, I dont remember. But yes, your right. He is only saying it for a reason, that fully acceptable.

All I mean was, I dont think what he says about Mandzukic to be so literal. I am sure he really likes him, but if Lewa comes, he will play ahead of him I am quite sure.

Yes, I agree with you Lewy will bench Mandzukic, as I said earlier Lewy I believe offers more in terms of team play, which is what Pep looks for a lot in his players. However how do you bench a player who contributed to a treble and whatever Pep/BM win this season?
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Post by free_cat Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:59 am

Lewa free would be an awesome signing. We could play him as a striker vs park the bus teams and the rest of games he could alternate bench with wing play. Messi wouldn't feel bad as he would still play mostly as a striker and we would have a great striker at 0 cost. We wouldn't even need to sign Draxler or Reus for the right wing.
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Post by free_cat Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:03 am

Is there another mandzukic out there we could sign if Lewa doesn't come? a great header cheap and unknown that would accept rotation?
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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:12 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Yeah leftback, I dont remember. But yes, your right. He is only saying it for a reason, that fully acceptable.

All I mean was, I dont think what he says about Mandzukic to be so literal. I am sure he really likes him, but if Lewa comes, he will play ahead of him I am quite sure.

Yes, I agree with you Lewy will bench Mandzukic, as I said earlier Lewy I believe offers more in terms of team play, which is what Pep looks for a lot in his players. However how do you bench a player who contributed to a treble and whatever Pep/BM win this season?
Same way you sell Etoo after winning everything.

Mandzukic hasnt been and likely would be the sole or even one of the main reasons they won and could win, so I doubt they will think twice about.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:38 pm

free_cat wrote:Is there another mandzukic out there we could sign if Lewa doesn't come?  a great header cheap and unknown that would accept rotation?
Javier Hernandez, Eren Derdiyok, Cardozo, Fredy Montero (scored 4 headers, 6 goals overall from crosses and 9 goals total this season already).
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Post by Winter is Coming Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:01 pm

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The Franchise wrote:Yeah leftback, I dont remember. But yes, your right. He is only saying it for a reason, that fully acceptable.

All I mean was, I dont think what he says about Mandzukic to be so literal. I am sure he really likes him, but if Lewa comes, he will play ahead of him I am quite sure.

Yes, I agree with you Lewy will bench Mandzukic, as I said earlier Lewy I believe offers more in terms of team play, which is what Pep looks for a lot in his players. However how do you bench a player who contributed to a treble and whatever Pep/BM win this season?
Same way you sell Etoo after winning everything.

Mandzukic hasnt been and likely would be the sole or even one of the main reasons they won and could win, so I doubt they will think twice about.
Well Eto'o departure had more to do with personal issues with Pep.

I agree he wouldn't be the main reason, but I guess only time will tell.
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Post by BarcaLearning Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:12 pm

I too would loveee Lewand, hes just so damn complete. He could be a new real CF we havent had for years now Very Happy
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Post by free_cat Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:13 pm

The Franchise wrote:
free_cat wrote:Is there another mandzukic out there we could sign if Lewa doesn't come?  a great header cheap and unknown that would accept rotation?
Javier Hernandez, Eren Derdiyok, Cardozo, Fredy Montero (scored 4 headers, 6 goals overall from crosses and 9 goals total this season already).
Montero seems an interesting option, although I see he is quite short, but maybe he is a great header. Like Falcao, who is short and is an elite header.
Never heard of Derdiyok, doesn't seem to be a starter or score a lot.
I don't think Cardozo is good enough, neither aerially.
Hernandez would definitely work but would cost quite a lot and I don't know if United would depart with him.
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Post by windkick Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:22 pm

Hernandez can't pass for shit. I think he would be a horrible match for us

And please, no more Lewa talk. It's pointless he doesn't want to come here.
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Post by free_cat Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:35 pm

You don't know it for sure. Also, it seems Pep is not very willing to buy him. We'll see, but it would be a great signing.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:30 pm

free_cat wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
free_cat wrote:Is there another mandzukic out there we could sign if Lewa doesn't come?  a great header cheap and unknown that would accept rotation?
Javier Hernandez, Eren Derdiyok, Cardozo, Fredy Montero (scored 4 headers, 6 goals overall from crosses and 9 goals total this season already).
Montero seems an interesting option, although I see he is quite short, but maybe he is a great header. Like Falcao, who is short and is an elite header.
Never heard of Derdiyok, doesn't seem to be a starter or score a lot.
I don't think Cardozo is good enough, neither aerially.
Hernandez would definitely work but would cost quite a lot and I don't know if United would depart with him.
Agree, I had no idea about him before he came to Sporting this season and looking at him, doesnt look dangerous in the air. But he has good positioning and those 4 headers he scored already plus 2 more from crosses show he knows how to handle himself.

Derdiyok been inconsistent for alot of his career, but he is really really talented. Not someone we would even look at usually, but someone I think who's record doesnt show his real quality.

I dont like Cardozo, never have really. He is a decent player, but awfully slow and not as good in the air as you would expect from 6'4 inches tall. Probably because he doesnt get into the box enough.

I dont think Hernandez would be that cheap either, but there is some talk of him leaving because RVP, Rooney and Welbeck seem ahead of him.

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Post by Donuts Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm

I don't know why you guys are so hesitant to talk about Lewa, half our predictions never com true and what else are these forums for then to speculate..
Chicharito would not work well with Barca though is an amazing poacher but it will be like we are playing with one less player in the team, although if he does come although if he came, millions of fans from Mexico would come running xD
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Post by free_cat Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:13 pm

Chicharito, if signed, would be only to come in as a supersub vs park the bus defense the last 30-40 minutes.
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Post by CBarca Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:00 am

Hernandez is average at best. Only would accept him as Free said, a supersub for extreme cases. In which case he wouldn't be worth the money, and why would Hernandez leave his slightly better situation at United for that.

We might talk about things that usually won't come about, but talk about Lewa is different though. It's simply not going to happen. He wants Bayern and Bayern wants him.
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Post by free_cat Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:12 pm

Not transfer rumors, but I was making a recap of players that could be useful for next season as a plan B, of strikers that are great aerially:

- Drogba: His contract ends at the end of the season. He seems to still be a valuable player, so we could try to get him for one year.

- Lewandowski: Very unlikely, but it's not completely off the charts. He can head and have aerial game and is good enough to be plan A.

- Llorente: After an erratic start seems to start being important for Juve, but a transfer at the end of the season would still be possible.

- Mandzukic: Possibly the best header right now. He might be available if Bayern signs Lewa.

- Benteke: I don't know if this guy is good enough on the ball, but he could be a kind of Eto'o signing for us. He is definitely gifted physically and aerially.

Giroud, Kiessling and Jackson Martinez: All of them are good players aerially but couldn't be starters with us and would cost too much. So no point.

Possible other cheap options: Luca Toni, Peter Crouch, Aduriz, Roque Santa Cruz.
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Post by free_cat Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:14 pm

Offcourse, the best thing would be to perfect the plan A, and to do this and also have a plan B, the best option would be Julian Draxler. A player with inmense talent that also adds physique, aerial presence, and could play as a false striker but with good aerial game vs. park the bus teams.
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Post by billy_gr Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:27 pm

I am all in for Draxler but we will have to sell Tello and Pedro for another forward to come
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Post by windkick Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:21 pm

Draxler is 6"2, and only 20 years old. I like. I could see us getting a German to go along with the likes of Ter Stegen. So Ter Stege can have a buddy on the team

He would be our tallest forward lol
Pedro is 5"7
Tello is 5"11
Messi is 5"7
Neymar is 5"9
Alexis is 5"7
Cesc as a false 9, is 5"10
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:31 pm

Draxler Laughing

Its clear none of you have watched him outside of Youtube.

Makes Tello look like a brain surgeon.... its going to be enjoyable when the whole world realises how overrated he is.

Max Meyer >>>>>>>

Also this entire section is far too obsessed with height.
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Post by danyjr Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:45 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Makes Tello look like a brain surgeon
Reminds me of this Laughing

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Post by Donuts Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:54 pm

Drogba at Barca just seems wrong
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Post by Donuts Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:01 pm

Several rumors coming out that Mourinho is losing his patience with David Luiz.. hmm
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Post by free_cat Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:28 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Draxler Laughing

Its clear none of you have watched him outside of Youtube.

Makes Tello look like a brain surgeon.... its going to be enjoyable when the whole world realises how overrated he is.

Max Meyer >>>>>>>

Also this entire section is far too obsessed with height.
Draxler is 20 years old. He will improve. You know that? He is impressive for a 20 year old. I already told you I've never watched Draxler on youtube, but suit yourself.

We are obsessed with height because we are severly lacking since our starting CB is 1.74 and sucks aerially, and we only have two players taller than 1.80 in our starting lineup and they are not that good aerially.
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