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Post by Gil Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:43 pm

Just saw the highlights of Napoli v Bologna and he was immense.

Are people still overrating technical midfielders when he's clearly better than the majority of them? The only AM's I'd take over him are Mata, Ozil and Fabregas.

His productivity is unreal and looks like he could potentially become a 20/20 midfielder at a bigger club surrounded by better players.

My only problem with him is his tendency to go missing in the big games.
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Post by S Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:52 pm

Thats a myth really.He was brilliant in Napoli's CL campaign 2 years ago for example.

Mata is the one who goes missing in big games. :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:54 pm

S wrote:Thats a myth really.He was brilliant in Napoli's CL campaign 2 years ago for example.

Mata is the one who goes missing in big games.
3 goals and 4 assists in 7 games against the champions of England suggests otherwise.
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Post by Firenze Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:56 pm

good depth player

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Post by Kaladin Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:59 pm

He's a fantastic player, able to direct Napoli's attack with guile and precision. Should've gotten him during the Mr X saga Sad
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Post by Grooverider Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:59 pm

He would be a great back up / squad depth player at a bigger European club, but no more than that.
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Post by Forza Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:40 am

Grooverider wrote:He would be a great back up / squad depth player at a bigger European club, but no more than that.
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Grooverider wrote:I don't watch Serie A, but his name is not Cavani and he plays for Napoli, so he can't possibly be world class.
FYI, Hamsik is the best midfielder in the league. Even better than Vidal IMO.
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Post by Luca Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:59 am

Forza wrote:
Grooverider wrote:He would be a great back up / squad depth player at a bigger European club, but no more than that.
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Grooverider wrote:I don't watch Serie A, but his name is not Cavani and he plays for Napoli, so he can't possibly be world class.
FYI, Hamsik is the best midfielder in the league. Even better than Vidal IMO.
Not better than Pirlo or DDR, let alone Vidal... but Hamsik is immense for Napoli

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Post by Forza Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:04 am

Luca wrote:
Forza wrote:
Grooverider wrote:He would be a great back up / squad depth player at a bigger European club, but no more than that.
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Grooverider wrote:I don't watch Serie A, but his name is not Cavani and he plays for Napoli, so he can't possibly be world class.
FYI, Hamsik is the best midfielder in the league. Even better than Vidal IMO.
Not better than Pirlo or DDR, let alone Vidal... but Hamsik is immense for Napoli
I think I made a mistake in saying all midfielders. If I had said AMs, that would've made more sense. Overall though, Hamsik undeniably had a better season than Pirlo and DDR in 12-13.

I prefer Hamsik over Vidal because of his better creative passing and assist-making capabilities. However, in saying that, Vidal has a better work-rate, better defensive skills and is a good passer in his own right. Just personal preference for me.
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Post by Luca Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:07 am

Forza wrote:
Luca wrote:
Forza wrote:Read:
FYI, Hamsik is the best midfielder in the league. Even better than Vidal IMO.
Not better than Pirlo or DDR, let alone Vidal... but Hamsik is immense for Napoli
I think I made a mistake in saying all midfielders. If I had said AMs, that would've made more sense. Overall though, Hamsik undeniably had a better season than Pirlo and DDR in 12-13.

I prefer Hamsik over Vidal because of his better creative passing and assist-making capabilities. However, in saying that, Vidal has a better work-rate, better defensive skills and is a good passer in his own right. Just personal preference for me.
Fair enough, in that sense I agree but Hernanes has to be up there in the same department in terms of creating

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Post by 7amood11 Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:34 am

Great player, and a bit underrated as well in my opinion. He isn't mentioned very often in the same breath as Ozil, Mata, etc. He's right up there with them.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:28 am

Hamsik has been underrated for quite some time now. He is so complete and capable within his skill-set that its almost difficult to optimize upon his attributes.

He used to fall short when Mazzari utilized him in the forward role directly behind Cavani with Lavezzi paired with Hamsik. Where Hamsik truly started to shine is when the creative output began to build around him Post-Lavezzi in a purely central role, through which the added responsibility brought out the best in Marek. Giving him captaincy has only augmented his desire to take responsibility as in the last 2 years he has finally began to shine in the bigger games, due to positional reference as the assists from him garnered big time.

Definitely a world-class AM.
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Post by Grooverider Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:40 pm

World class players do not continue to play in Italy at the age of 26, if he was a world class midfielder then a big club from England or Spain would of been sniffing around and this had not happened so we can see that he's either vastly overrated or just not at a world class level, I would probably pick both
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Post by S Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:41 pm

Totti was never world class then Sad
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:42 pm

Groove


Stop watching football please.
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Post by 7amood11 Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:50 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Groove


Stop watching football please.
He doesn't Laughing
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Post by Casciavit Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:51 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Groove


Stop watching football please.
Instead of commenting on football he should watch it, tbh.
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Post by Luca Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:52 pm

Grooverider wrote:World class players do not continue to play in Italy at the age of 26, if he was a world class midfielder then a big club from England or Spain would of been sniffing around and this had not happened so we can see that he's either vastly overrated or just not at a world class level, I would probably pick both
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:52 pm

7amood11 wrote:
Tomwin Lannister wrote:Groove


Stop watching football please.
He doesn't Laughing

rofl


And Cas, solid point tbf.
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Post by Gil Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:05 pm

Surprised so many of you bit. Groove is a shocking poster.
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Post by Kaladin Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:24 pm

Grooverider wrote:World class players do not continue to play in Italy at the age of 26, if he was a world class midfielder then a big club from England or Spain would of been sniffing around and this had not happened so we can see that he's either vastly overrated or just not at a world class level, I would probably pick both

My face when i read this

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Post by Casciavit Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:34 pm

Gil wrote:Surprised so many of you bit. Groove is a shocking poster.
Quite sure most of us know how bad of a poster he is, but he takes it a step further with each and every post.
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Post by Grooverider Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:25 am

S wrote:Totti was never world class then Sad
Totti was a good player in Italy, but had he decided to leave Italy for the Prem for example, the only clubs that would of been interested in him would have been the likes of Newcastle,Liverpool and Everton for example.
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Post by M99 Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:07 am

OK, that post confirmed that this guy is just having a laugh or is just mentally retarded.
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Post by Grooverider Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:13 am

It does not take a genius to work out that Totti stayed in Italy as none of the big boys came knocking throughout his career. You can put it down to loyalty somewhat but he did not ever get any offers from Spain or England
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