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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:44 pm

They were. But they made Kane from Hannibal Lecter to Hagrid

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:45 pm

Rubeus Swagrid would smash Hannibal
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Post by Onyx Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:46 pm

Kane/Big Show shouldn't really be in major storylines at their age.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:56 pm

No it's not age that's the problem at all, considering they can easily do all the moves they have done over the years.


It's the fact that they've spent years pretty much jobbing in main events, putting people over and they rarely have a good feud, then all of a sudden they're in the main event.

They've been built up incorrectly for many years.
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Post by zizzle Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:58 pm

Kane can get away with anything with little harm to his character, its like people know that this isnt really him and expect him to turn evil anytime.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:42 pm

Wasn't Kane buried by HHH back in the days too?
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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:48 pm

Oh btw, anyone here miss Sheamus? When is he coming back anyways?
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Post by Onyx Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:08 pm

Nah, don't miss Sheamus at all. He was Cena 2.0 generic babyface.

He needs to alter his character.

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Post by zizzle Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:18 pm

sheamus who ?
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Post by Onyx Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:22 pm

I can see why they're delaying giving the title to Bryan. If they give it to him now, where does he go? If delay giving him the title, then the pay off would be bigger. Especially if he wins it at WM after winning the rumble or something.

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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:27 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Nah, don't miss Sheamus at all. He was Cena 2.0 generic babyface.

He needs to alter his character.
please. Sheamus wishes he was 1/10th of Cena


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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:29 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:I can see why they're delaying giving the title to Bryan. If they give it to him now, where does he go? If delay giving him the title, then the pay off would be bigger. Especially if he wins it at WM after winning the rumble or something.
He isn't a draw. Will be a Jericho type guy. Will win few titles here n there but will never be big enough. WWE are hesitant to trust him.
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Post by Onyx Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:35 pm

He can't be a draw right now because he's in the middle of a push. He's not been given the title yet nor is he established yet.

It would be like saying Cena wasn't a draw in February 2004 when he got his first main feud for the WWE title.

Give Bryan a few proper WWE title reigns etc then he can be judged. But not when he hasn't even won the title yet properly.

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Post by zizzle Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:32 pm

I have to agree with RG here, the DB type guys are not good in terms of drawing money, they might be great in the ring and entertaining to the crowd, but for some reason people dont want to spend money to see them. Look at Cena, in terms of being an all around performer he's nothing compared to Jericho or CM punk, but does he sell out arena's ? he certainly does. Another guy is Goldberg, he's an average wrestler, average on the mic and yet he draws like a *bleep*. Batista is another one of these guys, Undertaker, Hogan, and all these charismatic "bigger than life" bastards . When it comes to drawing money skill doesnt mean much, its all about the "look" (not size, but the LOOK) and even if DB gets pushed to the moon he wouldnt be the draw Cena is.

Looking at the current roster there is only one young guy who has that IT factor and his name is Roman Reigns. He might not be the most talented guy there is but he has it. If he progresses like he should he'll only be second to Cena in a couple of years.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:38 pm

Mt has a point that we should be patient and see if Bryan rises to the fame and becomes a draw. But as of now, i can't see it. It was the same with Benoit.

Cena is the ultimate package. Like Rock was or Hogan before that. There is no one like him out there atm.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:44 pm

You can't compare to how Cena broke through..... that was a complete and utter fluke.

I'm not hating on Cena here but it really was.... Lesnar, Orton, Batista were all thought higher of by the top brass and the likes of The Rock, Austin etc etc all leaving at once.

It all fell in line for Cena all at once and that will never fall in line for anyone else ever again.

You cannot compare the two.
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Post by zizzle Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:45 pm

Comparing Cena to the Rock and Austin is stretch to say the least. These two were miles ahead of him. Id say Cena is the face HHH and thats not a bad thing, but Rock and Austin are level of their own.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:49 pm

I know, i was just comparing the characteristics.

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Post by Onyx Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:12 pm

Cena's been pushed and pushed, main event after main event. None of the others have had a chance.

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Post by zizzle Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:30 am

Roman Reigns was "not on the same page" with the shield today. Break up coming
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Post by M99 Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:29 am

For Tom

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If Shawn Michaels truly does return for one more match, it HAS TO BE, HAS TO BE, HAS TO BE vs The Rock.
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Post by silver Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:00 am

Shawn Michaels isn't coming back. It would completely ruin his retirement against Taker.

The problem with Cena is that he is so far ahead of everyone else it isn't funny anymore. You've got a guy, Brock Lesnar, who has instant credibility, left WWE on his own terms on top, destroyed Cena in 2003, and he comes back and loses to Cena and becomes just another guy. Orton and Punk, who you would probably call the #2 and #3 guy in WWE have continuously lost to Cena over the years and have never come out of a feud with Cena better than when they came in. The only guy who remotely looked on the same level was Batista, who ended up jobbing to Cena 3-4 PPVs in a row before he left.

Now here was a guy Daniel Bryan, who's had terrible booking but still remains over, who they could have built as John Cena's equal but haven't. They are just too scared to take risks even if ratings drops when they can just return to the status quo.

I honestly feel that Cena needs to go away for a decent amount of time so they can build new stars. With Cena here, no one else is going to look credible because Cena is so far ahead.

Its like going back to 2000 when Austin got injured, both Rock and HHH became mega stars and looked like Austin's equals when he came back. Had this been 2010 and Austin wasn't injured, he would have just beaten Rock/HHH all year long and new stars would not have been born.

Also, speaking of the Shield and their impending break up (still too early IMO), Roman Reigns has the "it" factor and you can tell they are high up on him because of how he's been protected during the Shield run. He's likely to get a huge push however he does not have the mic skills to be a main event player at the moment. He needs to be booked like Goldberg in WCW. Destroys and few words. However, I can easily see WWE stuffing up his push and moving on to the next pet project.

Ambrose will eventually be world champion. He's like Punk, lots of obstacles in the way but he's simply too good not to hold the world title at least once in his career.

I love Seth Rollins, I think he's the best wrestler of the 3 and my favourite. Theres a lot of talk about him being lost in the shuffle when they break up, but I think his wrestling ability will get him a lot further than what people give him credit for. He's basically a better, cleaner version of Jeff Hardy and he was arguably the most over WWE superstar they had at one point.

Other thing is I was never a fan of Ryback and I'm glad he's getting pushed down the card and may even get released. He's pure shit and never deserved the push he got last year.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:47 pm

M99 wrote:For Tom

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If Shawn Michaels truly does return for one more match, it HAS TO BE, HAS TO BE, HAS TO BE vs The Rock.


rofl

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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:57 pm

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post by Onyx Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:12 pm

Daniel Bryan is indeed out of the WWE Title picture after the storyline "reset" at last Monday's RAW. For now, there are no plans for Bryan to contend for the championship.

There is at least some talk of putting some contention back on Bryan during WrestleMania season but he is in a program with CM Punk and The Wyatt Family for the next few months.

In WWE's mind, they made Bryan a star and showed the audience that he can hang with their other top Superstars. The storyline is that Bryan couldn't overcome The Authority, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon, so later on down the line this can be addressed again.

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