He's had plenty of time for RM. Like I said he's started in 30 CL games. That's more starts than plenty of strikers will ever have in the CL

Let me put it this way, in 3 seasons time if Higuain actually starts to score for fun as well as impress in Europe i'll gladly rate him in the top tier of strikers

But rating people on potential which hasn't been fulfilled is just wrong.

I don't see a 19 year old kid tipped to be 'the next Messi' and automatically put him above strikers who have actually performed at the top level.

Potential is... well it's just that. Potential. When rating players of what they've done SO FAR, it doesn't really come into play.

Higuain is a lot more than just potential. Let's not underrate him either. His efficiency is fantastic. In the last 5 years, excluding the one he was injured, he scored:

17, 26, 29 and 23 goals. He's only 25 too. He's already a top CF.

sportsczy wrote:Higuain is a lot more than just potential.  Let's not underrate him either.  His efficiency is fantastic.  In the last 5 years, excluding the one he was injured, he scored:

17, 26, 29 and 23 goals.  He's only 25 too.  He's already a top CF.

inb4laligaweakdefence

Yeah I agree

top talent, very good player. And he's high up in my 2nd tier.

The 1st tier has the truely elite players such as Messi, Ibra, Cavani, Falcao etc.

Not Ronaldo because despite having 4million shots he is still technically a left winger. And he's at the top tier of wide forwards/midfielders.

M99 wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Higuain is a lot more than just potential.  Let's not underrate him either.  His efficiency is fantastic.  In the last 5 years, excluding the one he was injured, he scored:

17, 26, 29 and 23 goals.  He's only 25 too.  He's already a top CF.

inb4laligaweakdefence

inb4poorCLrecordbutwejustsignedllorenteandtevez

A decent discussion is taking place, we've covered all of these points. And now people start this 'inb4' nonsense which just resets pages of discussion and ignores everything...


Nice.  

Come on guys, Higuain is better than Vucinic. It doesn't mean Vucinic is an awful player to say that, Higuain is just superior (although they're different).

I agree with that though

I just don't see them as being on two completely different levels

Higuain just hasn't put in the performances to warrant being completely above & beyond Vucinic.

But he is better I agree.

Simply put, Higuain has displayed a more consistent career than Vucinic along with the higher potential within the striker echelon.

Vucinic overall is a more dynamic and complete player, yet his fiery & volatile mentality has resulted what is a very talented SS, to go on bouts of inconsistency and not living up to to the expectations given his ability standard. Inconsistency, despite Vuci's impressive career, is what is used to describe his career despite his INCREDIBLY clutch prowess, footballing IQ and what he produces, yet he needs to produce it more often.

Gonzalo has more time on him and therefore is likely to reach a higher ceiling.

Pipita the better CF, yet Vuci is a different player altogether.

Oh my lord, this thread is going to be an epic bump when Higgy rips Serie A apart. The hate for him is too much.

Mario Gomez who is twice the player that Higuain is goes for 20 millions and Higuain for 40? This must be a scam or something or napoletans are very bad with mathematics ...

something-red wrote:Juve fans stop being bitter.

Higgy is better than Vucinic. It shouldn't even be up for debate.

don't make a collective analysis, not ALL Juve fans think Higuain is sh*t, but, most of us think 37m is still an overpay,

still think Tevez will sh*t on him this season, and I rate Llorente as being a complete striker over Higuain, perhaps Higuain is the better finisher, but Llorente is more complete......

I like how some Madrid fans are drawing up tiers now

claiming Higuain is world class whatnots, I don't disagree, but these same people were quick to say Tevez is nothing compared to what he was last 2 seasons, therefore s Tier 2 when Juve signed him, yet Tevez>>>> Higuain

if Tevez = tier 2

higuain = ....... I leave it to you....

You ask not to make a collective analysis and you literally do the same thing the post below. The person who made the "tier" was Red-Something formerly known as YNWA and not "most Madrid fans".

^^

my bad then Doc, the most part was in relation to when Juve signed Tevez....

Good luck to him.

lol, tipical GL, comparing Higua with Vuci....LOL!

Higuain rips Vucinic's ass easily.

i would consider higuain like 8-8.7 / 10 whiles Vucinic is a 7 at most, and IM A JUVE FAN.

8.7/10 Jesus are you actually saying that the difference between Higuain and Messi, no scratch that. Higuain and PERFECTION is a mere 1.3?


Damn, you must have spent £500 buying all dat Higuain hype.

9.99 because Messi refuses to grow a proper beard or grow back out his hair.

True actually

Then again have you seen Raul Meireles' beard?

10/10 ffs.

Higuain sh*ts over Vucinic 24/7 tom,

I know Vuci is better in some aspect but in the end they are both strikers and if we are comparing them based on striker's ability,

Vuci is no where near Tier 2 if Higuain is

Vuci would be Tier 3

of course Higuain was overpriced and will have a lot to prove at Napoli but until then, Vucinic is not his level.....

I disagree completely

Like I've said Higuain in terms of goals shits over Vucinic, granted

Most other things, Vucinic is better

Higuain is better overall but definitely not on another LEVEL.

If Vucinic was leading the line then you'd have a point, but he's a support striker who's been supporting the likes of Matri. And he's still made us look good.

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I disagree completely

Like I've said Higuain in terms of goals shits over Vucinic, granted

Most other things, Vucinic is better

Higuain is better overall but definitely not on another LEVEL.

If Vucinic was leading the line then you'd have a point, but he's a support striker who's been supporting the likes of Matri. And he's still made us look good.

THIS

not sure why u guys are comparing he and Higuain then....

It's less of a direct comparison and more of a comparison about abilities. Somebody said that Higuain was too good to even be compared to Vucinic, and I've responded by agreeing that Higuain is the better player, but not to the degree where he's lightyears ahead of Vucinic. Which is simply not true.

well if you wanna call Messi a perfection then YES.

i said 8 to 8.7 at most. Dude will rip Serie A son, no doubt about it.

Hell i take higuain over tevez and llorente (considering their last season form).

is 37 mil overpriced? Maybe a little, then again, Napoli needed to break the bank to convince a player like Higuain to come....

You 'bookmarqeeus' can bookmark this statement. If Higuain joins Napoli I will post revealing photos of a certain woman and I within a thread of your choice; as such is my conviction that Pipita will not join Napoli, as it is not in his interests, nor will Napoli live up to the absurd fee.

Arsenal or staying at Real Madrid. All this reports of Higuain to Napoli have as much credibility as his medicals in Arsenal and Juventus.