Are players at the mercy of mega wealthy club owners?

EL Patron wrote:I don't see it as a bad thing, everyone involves gains something out it. The selling clubs and the player both make huge amount of money so everyone is happy

The_Badger wrote:

EL Patron wrote:I don't see it as a bad thing, everyone involves gains something out it. The selling clubs and the player both make huge amount of money so everyone is happy

You don't think it's bad for the integrity of the game where players may be pushed out of a club, where they are happy and settled, simply because they happen to perform well and attract the interest of stupid buggers and their stupid money?

sportsczy wrote:We don't live in a communist/socialist world people.  If you hadn't noticed, almost all the socialist states have either failed or are in the process of failing.  We live in a capitalist world economy.  Either you adjust and play the game or you get eaten.  

If you can't afford big money players, you better have great youth development and scouting.  Ligue 1 and Bundi teams have adjusted to that already.

Porto is the best example of playing the game to perfection.

sportsczy wrote:No.... the countries you see failing are not truly capitalistic.  France certainly isn't and i know Greece, Spain and Portugal aren't either.  They were/are welfare states.  Very socialist oriented in a lot of ways.  You have this large layer of inefficient, ineffective and unnecessary government bureaucracy + massive pensions + welfare systems.  The capitalist segment of the country could not carry the cost of these social structures.  The high taxes that were being charged to the private sector were making them non-competitive.  That's why the countries are falling apart.

Now, they are painfully dismantling these systems and the people who became dependent on them are left without support.  This should have happened gradually.  But politicians didn't want to lose votes so they swept the problem under the rug... until it became a full crisis.

France is still in denial... but it's coming too.  

flameas wrote:

sportsczy wrote:No.... the countries you see failing are not truly capitalistic.  France certainly isn't and i know Greece, Spain and Portugal aren't either.  They were/are welfare states.  Very socialist oriented in a lot of ways.  You have this large layer of inefficient, ineffective and unnecessary government bureaucracy + massive pensions + welfare systems.  The capitalist segment of the country could not carry the cost of these social structures.  The high taxes that were being charged to the private sector were making them non-competitive.  That's why the countries are falling apart.

Now, they are painfully dismantling these systems and the people who became dependent on them are left without support.  This should have happened gradually.  But politicians didn't want to lose votes so they swept the problem under the rug... until it became a full crisis.

France is still in denial... but it's coming too.  

Capitalism has only one goal : earn money for the ruling class. Simple as that. Some countries tried to make living good for the whole population (socialism) but the globan economy, which is ruled by US, jews and illuminati thought that they are making living too easy and society like that isnt making enough profit. So they made up a thing called econimic crisis.

Money is an illusion anyway. Only exicts on bank accounts. Gold of stuff like that isnt worth shit, the value is given to those things to make people want em. And work harder to archive that.

Football used to be about skill and passion, now the businessman have got into the game and made it all about money. Money - the worst thing in the world.

Surag wrote:Totally.No doubt about it.Especially Serie A teams whose finances are not well off these days.

Ibra and Silva's sales were the biggest example.Both wanted to stay but they were forced into it cos of that massive offer from PSG.

And now look at Marquinhos.He wants Barca but he's forced into joining PSG cos their offer is significantly higher.

Surag wrote:Totally.No doubt about it.Especially Serie A teams whose finances are not well off these days.

Ibra and Silva's sales were the biggest example.Both wanted to stay but they were forced into it cos of that massive offer from PSG.

And now look at Marquinhos.He wants Barca but he's forced into joining PSG cos their offer is significantly higher.

“I tried to leave Shakhtar for over a year, but couldn’t do it,” Willian explained.

“I had offers from big English clubs and from other places, but Shakhtar never accepted them. Anzhi were the only ones who agreed to pay for my release clause. I have enormous affection and respect for this club, but everybody knows that my dreams and desires haven’t changed.

“I have the goal of playing for a big club and being in the spotlight to rejoin the Brazil national team but for now I’m an Anzhi player, and I intend to keep playing here with a calm mind.”

The 24-year-old added that times were sometimes hard at Shakhtar, despite him helping to lead the Ukrainian side into last season’s Champions League knockout stage.

“I tried every possible way to negotiate my exit, showing my desire to play for a big club, but they never really cared about it,” he said. “They were only willing to let me go if someone could pay the release clause fee. I wanted very badly to go to England, but I have no regrets and couldn’t wait any longer to leave Shakhtar. They used to tell me one thing and then act otherwise.”