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No midfield vs. no defence
Which is worse from your point of view? The best examples would be Barca and ManU. The former's defence are in shambles while the later's defence consists of a 31y old Carrick.
I think having no defence is more detrimental than a no midfield team. Superb forwards could grind out results on their on in counter attacks while having ball control with a crap defence in behind would mean a heart attack during every counter attack...
I think having no defence is more detrimental than a no midfield team. Superb forwards could grind out results on their on in counter attacks while having ball control with a crap defence in behind would mean a heart attack during every counter attack...
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No midfield is worse obviously. Spain is winning trophies without a defense and without strikers just with their midfield.
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Pretty sure Yanited have Carrick in midfield holding things together
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Re: No midfield vs. no defence
Midfield because the midfield is what what creates and defends even thou its team effort but midfield gives support to defense and attack. Under Del Neri we had Bonucci,Barzagli,Chiellini but our defense was shit....
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Take it from the Roma fan, no defence is worse.
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Spain's defence wasn't that bad. Puyol, Pique, Ramos and Arbeloa were still good. Right now, I'm not sure. Alba and Arbeloa are crap in defence and the results were shown in Confed cup. Pique is past it in my opinion, Ramos isn't that good.futbol wrote:No midfield is worse obviously. Spain is winning trophies without a defense and without strikers just with their midfield.
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Defending as a team!= defender's quality. Both manu and Farca defend pretty well as a team. The problem is they lack individual quality in those areas.DeviAngel wrote:Midfield because the midfield is what what creates and defends even thou its team effort but midfield gives support to defense and attack. Under Del Neri we had Bonucci,Barzagli,Chiellini but our defense was shit....
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..just have a good,long hard look at the England NT..
..They usually play without either lol..
..They usually play without either lol..
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Thats different, Spain dont have just good midfielders, they play tiki taka so that clearly takes a weight off attack and defense.futbol wrote:No midfield is worse obviously. Spain is winning trophies without a defense and without strikers just with their midfield.
And tbh Spain had quite a lot of luck on their side.
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Re: No midfield vs. no defence
As important as midfield is, having a good defense is much more essential.
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Midfield is more essential definitely....
That's the bondage for the defense & Forward line...without it...The strikers will play deep to get the ball & the defence will push up out of position to win ball...
That's the bondage for the defense & Forward line...without it...The strikers will play deep to get the ball & the defence will push up out of position to win ball...
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Re: No midfield vs. no defence
Depends on the league.
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Ofcourse Midfiled (considering Mou is not the coach)....
Otherwise its a free flow from opposition. you just cant make wall for 90 mins giving free ticket all around....they will just climb up...
Otherwise its a free flow from opposition. you just cant make wall for 90 mins giving free ticket all around....they will just climb up...
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futbol wrote:No midfield is worse obviously. Spain is winning trophies without a defense and without strikers just with their midfield.
Stop it you clown. Spain don't win the 08 Euros or 10 WC without their strikers.
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Look at barca, their defense is light years behind their midfield, but by controlling the ball in midfield so well they're able to cover up much of their defensive weaknesses
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No defence is worse than No midfield , unless the team plays possession based football and defends by not giving the ball away to opponent
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Re: No midfield vs. no defence
No defense = concede goals
No midfield = concede goals (because you can't control the tempo, so the opposition will most likely dictate the game and have more shots on goal) + difficulty creating goal scoring chances for forwards
No midfield is worse imo
No midfield = concede goals (because you can't control the tempo, so the opposition will most likely dictate the game and have more shots on goal) + difficulty creating goal scoring chances for forwards
No midfield is worse imo
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The thing is, Barca have a world class midfield and so they're able to keep all the possession in the world. So having an average defense works for them.
But most of the teams don't. They rely on defenders actually working as defenders.
Having a good defense and average midfield is not worse off than having an average defense and world class midfield especially given the fact that it takes much less finance to assemble the former rather than the latter.
Heck, Man Utd won the league last season with just Carrick in the midfield. They rely on defending as a unit and wing play.
Barca got humbled 7-0 by Bayern last season by having no defense. If they had, suppose, Lahm, Silva, Kompany, Alaba in the defense and Song, Thiago and Sergi Roberto in the midfield, the result would've been perhaps more in their favour, no?
But most of the teams don't. They rely on defenders actually working as defenders.
Having a good defense and average midfield is not worse off than having an average defense and world class midfield especially given the fact that it takes much less finance to assemble the former rather than the latter.
Heck, Man Utd won the league last season with just Carrick in the midfield. They rely on defending as a unit and wing play.
Barca got humbled 7-0 by Bayern last season by having no defense. If they had, suppose, Lahm, Silva, Kompany, Alaba in the defense and Song, Thiago and Sergi Roberto in the midfield, the result would've been perhaps more in their favour, no?
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Just as important, as attack. If you have more quality in midfield they can support and cover worse defense, and/or attack, and so on.
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I was gonna say Real had no midfield in some ways and look what happened when they played us in recent encounters Obviously though theyve strengthen in that area....while we have done nothing yet about our defense, grrrrrrrr
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