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Post by DeviAngel Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:36 pm

Casciavit wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:Neither of those would be happy being a rotation option.
They won't be roatation option, Conte is changing the formation for next season.

To what though?

4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:13 pm

If Conte's going with 4-3-3 then it's fine I guess, although I saw many instances towards the end of this season where he played with 4 midfielders (Marchisio, Pirlo, Pogba and Vidal). So I'm a bit skeptical.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:18 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:If Conte's going with 4-3-3 then it's fine I guess, although I saw many instances towards the end of this season where he played with 4 midfielders (Marchisio, Pirlo, Pogba and Vidal). So I'm a bit skeptical.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. I know that he asked for small revolution in the attack so ...
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Post by kiranr Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:19 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Casciavit wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
They won't be roatation option, Conte is changing the formation for next season.

To what though?

4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1

Higuain or Tevez as inside forwards? There won't be any width..
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Post by S Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:42 pm

DeviAngel wrote:Juve and Conte want 2 strikers and they'll do everything to get them but a lot depends if Vuci is going to leave which is going to happen with so many reports linking him with a move away and no denial from his side so far. Plus Conte is going to change his formation and he wants 2 strikers. I know in the past how many BS quotes Di Marzio said lol so its not like that for him

Di Marzio was the first person to call Pep's move to Bayern.

He was the first one to call the James and Moutinho transfers.

He was the only one out of the Italian sources to say the Aguero rumors were false.

Just a few examples.

Dont try to discredit him just for the sake of it because he gets his stuff right most of the time.And this is coming from someone who is reading Italian transfer rumors almost everyday for the past 2 years hence it has become easy for me who the reliable sources are and Di Marzio certainly is one,not the crappy GDS,CDS,Tuttoshit who are only interested in selling papers by reporting shitty rumors.

DeviAngel wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:Neither of those would be happy being a rotation option.
They won't be roatation option, Conte is changing the formation for next season.

Again , just a rumor from the 'Mighty' Gazzetta Dello Sport.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:44 pm

Surag wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:Juve and Conte want 2 strikers and they'll do everything to get them but a lot depends if Vuci is going to leave which is going to happen with so many reports linking him with a move away and no denial from his side so far. Plus Conte is going to change his formation and he wants 2 strikers. I know in the past how many BS quotes Di Marzio said lol so its not like that for him

Di Marzio was the first person to call Pep's move to Bayern.

He was the first one to call the James and Moutinho transfers.

He was the only one out of the Italian sources to say the Aguero rumors were false.

Just a few examples.

Dont try to discredit him just for the sake of it because he gets his stuff right most of the time.And this is coming from someone who is reading Italian transfer rumors almost everyday for the past 2 years hence it has become easy for me who the reliable sources are and Di Marzio certainly is one,not the crappy GDS,CDS,Tuttoshit who are only interested in selling papers by reporting shitty rumors.

DeviAngel wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:Neither of those would be happy being a rotation option.
They won't be roatation option, Conte is changing the formation for next season.

Again , just a rumor from the 'Mighty' Gazzetta Dello Sport.

Like h announed Giuseppe Rossi to Juve, Higuain last year and RVP ? I read them every day in the lat 5 years and he made mistakes just like all of the papers and people do.
The bold part ends the 'debate' Smile
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Post by S Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:47 pm

He did not.

He only reported that those aforementioned players had agreement with Juve.We dint reach any sort of agreement with the club.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:53 pm

Surag wrote:He did not.

He only reported that those aforementioned players had agreement with Juve.We dint reach any sort of agreement with the club.

Di Marzio, "Juve took Kasami ... but for June"

Di Marzio, "Juve, Damiao in summer, in January a defender and a midfielder"

Di Marzio and Brazilian talent: "Rhodolfo a great deal for Juventus"


He is just human making mistakes which is normal. And yes he said we reached agreement for Rossi than denied it than again reached. Face bro no one in this 'game' is perfect or 100 correct.
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Post by S Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:56 pm

But i dint say he is 100% correct no ?

Out of the Italian sources ,he is the most reliable one and for me is a trustworthy source if you have to pick one(out of the Italian sources).Just my opinion.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:01 pm

Surag wrote:But i dint say he is 100% correct no ?

Out of the Italian sources ,he is the most reliable one and for me is a trustworthy source if you have to pick one(out of the Italian sources).Just my opinion.

as I said all reporters and newspapers are same they guess from time to time, and sometimes they don't. I rate sky above everyone but even they made mistakes. Reports take the news like the papers from agents and portals and debate about them sometimes they guess sometimes they don't and that was the aim of our small 'debate' the bold part. Smile
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Post by S Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:06 pm

One of the reason Sky Italia have built the reputation of being reliable is because Di Marzio works for them. :coffee:

Inb4 im overrating him.Yeah he makes mistakes too but as i said out of existing Italian sources ,i find Di Marzio to be the most credible one.I'm speaking relatively you know.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:06 pm

I think you have to look at it culturally too. In Italy and Spain, drama and emotions run high and people like it. They look at the media as entertainment, not just news.

In France, you get caught BSing and people just stop paying attention to you. So the better media need to be accurate more often than not if they want to be taken seriously. More austere people the French.

UK is tabloid heaven lol so you reaaally nee to be careful. For example, i finally asked RO what i should read because the Liverpool bs out there is so thick.

Etc.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:07 pm

Surag wrote:One of the reason Sky Italia have built the reputation of being reliable is because Di Marzio works for them. :coffee:

Inb4 im overrating him.Yeah he makes mistakes too but as i said out of existing Italian sources ,i find Di Marzio to be the most credible one.I'm speaking relatively you know.

as I said above bro we agreed abou the purpose of the 'debate'. Sky is not just Di Marzio he works for Sportitalia to at least used to.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:11 pm

Sports it merely the Sports Journalism in Espana & Italia that is in such condition. Both peninsulas know it is always better to follow independent journalists rather than mainstream journalists employing papers.

OT: Surag is right though. Di Marzio is highly respected in Italia and is garnering major respect in Espana due to his verifiable contacts there. There is a reason as to why he has been verified on twitter and utter pathetic clowns like Tancredi Palmieri is a running joke in journalism.

Di Marzio is highly trusted and he serves his fans by respectable content.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:13 pm

Arquitescu wrote:Sports it merely the Sports Journalism in Espana & Italia that is in such condition. Both peninsulas know it is always better to follow independent journalists rather than mainstream journalists employing papers.

OT: Surag is right though. Di Marzio is highly respected in Italia and is garnering major respect in Espana due to his verifiable contacts there. There is a reason as to why he has been verified on twitter and utter pathetic clowns like Tancredi Palmieri is a running joke in journalism.

Di Marzio is highly trusted and he serves his fans by respectable content.

Don't get me started on him
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:21 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Arquitescu wrote:Sports it merely the Sports Journalism in Espana & Italia that is in such condition. Both peninsulas know it is always better to follow independent journalists rather than mainstream journalists employing papers.

OT: Surag is right though. Di Marzio is highly respected in Italia and is garnering major respect in Espana due to his verifiable contacts there. There is a reason as to why he has been verified on twitter and utter pathetic clowns like Tancredi Palmieri is a running joke in journalism.

Di Marzio is highly trusted and he serves his fans by respectable content.

Don't get me started on him

His reputation has gone down the drain though.

He faced a recent backlash from the top tweeters on Twitter due to him stealing & "copyrighting" foreign media news as his own. Since Di Marzio got verified it was his nail in the coffin. Still has his followers but hardly respected now.

A running joke on twitter and blocks anyone who even mentions it.
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Post by S Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:25 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:That's pretty old. Doesn't even mention the significant investmant that we now have with Samsung.


Where did you find this, it looks like something I've read before.

To be fair,we dont get much money from the Samsung deal.If anything Sportfive(the ones who helped Juve in financing the construction of the stadium) benefit a lot from this deal.
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Post by salmano9 Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:11 pm

Juventus, currently earning £69.66 million

The Italian champions are one of the few teams competing with the Premier League sides on TV deals. However, they still only get the same as a lower mid-table side in the current deal, and will be blown away by the new contract.
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We are earning this much, and we can't spend? More than psg evenn... (couldn't find the financial thread)
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Post by GIGItheBest Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:00 pm

So wait, what new contract are they talking about? The TV contract for BPL teams?
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Post by salmano9 Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:03 pm

GIGItheBest wrote:So wait, what new contract are they talking about? The TV contract for BPL teams?

Yeah, they will earn a lot this season... Stoke will earn more than us
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Post by Kick Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:08 am

Yeah EPL teams are getting a new TV deal to make us mega earners.
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Post by salmano9 Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:32 am

Kick wrote:Yeah EPL teams are getting a new TV deal to make us mega earners.

Not fair Sad
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Post by Kick Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:35 am

I would agree with that, the EPL isn't that special that it deserves to be paid so much more, but it is marketed so well.

Life isn't fair though, so there isn't much we can do about it.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:42 am

Serie A should have sorted it's *bleep* self out instead of collectively doing nothing to appeal to modern fans
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Post by salmano9 Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:12 am

@Tom: I love how they don't show the matches at 2 in here... I went to the uni pub the other day to watch NCastle VS Cheslea, but they told that they only show the games in the afternoon.
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