Re: Summer Transfer Thread

[Kick]

Oh definitely, but the passion Lukaku has for the club, willingness to work hard and improve and his desire to succeed are all things that Mourinho will love imo.

Certainly, The only reason why Lukaku is being considered as a starter is his horrible first touch, If he could improve that dramatically, we'd not need to buy a CF.

It's more than his first touch mate. His passing is poor, his finishing needs working on, etc. He's not ready to be first choice at a title-contending club.



tbh, he doesn't really need good passing, If you play him as a poacher and his finishing is better than Fernando's.

Neither is good enough.

Meaning Neither Romeu or Ess are good enough or neither options are good enough?

Neither Romeu nor Essien is good enough to threaten anyone of even moderate quality for a place in the side. Besides, neither even plays the same role as KDB so I don't know how their sales or non-sales would affect Kevin whatsoever.

If we're to play KDB in the pivot, these are pivot players. That would mean we have: Mikel, Ramires, Romeu, Essien, Lampard and KDB in the pivot, for two spots. Try and tell me that's not too many. I've tried to suggest the 4-3-3 in the past but you have shot it down every time. I think we could work using a 4-3-3 but you are opposed to the idea. We're going to need to sell a CM + Marin, at least, this season otherwise our squad will be too big!

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He needs to polish his passing for his development as a footballer. It's not just about what we need right at this moment...

If we're to play KDB in the pivot, these are pivot players. That would mean we have: Mikel, Ramires, Romeu, Essien, Lampard and KDB in the pivot, for two spots. Try and tell me that's not too many. I've tried to suggest the 4-3-3 in the past but you have shot it down every time. I think we could work using a 4-3-3 but you are opposed to the idea. We're going to need to sell a CM + Marin, at least, this season otherwise our squad will be too big!

But you're basing judgement on our necessity on pure numbers. I'm using quality. Almost none of those players is particularly good at all.


Mikel - average
Ramires - good athlete but a hopeless footballer. Remains to be seen if he'll be more useful in a Mou side
Romeu - young, unproven, passenger
Essien - finished
Lampard - pushing 35 and won't feature regularly, especially as the season progresses


Just because we have a number of midfield players on paper doesn't automatically mean we're covered in that position or something. It's quality that matters, not the quantity, and not one of those players is of the quality needed to achieve the club's goals.

[Kick]

He needs to polish his passing for his development as a footballer. It's not just about what we need right at this moment...

If we're to play KDB in the pivot, these are pivot players. That would mean we have: Mikel, Ramires, Romeu, Essien, Lampard and KDB in the pivot, for two spots. Try and tell me that's not too many. I've tried to suggest the 4-3-3 in the past but you have shot it down every time. I think we could work using a 4-3-3 but you are opposed to the idea. We're going to need to sell a CM + Marin, at least, this season otherwise our squad will be too big!

But you're basing judgement on our necessity on pure numbers. I'm using quality. Almost none of those players is particularly good at all.


Mikel - average
Ramires - good athlete but a hopeless footballer. Remains to be seen if he'll be more useful in a Mou side
Romeu - young, unproven, passenger
Essien - finished
Lampard - pushing 35 and won't feature regularly, especially as the season progresses


Just because we have a number of midfield players on paper doesn't automatically mean we're covered in that position or something. It's quality that matters, not the quantity, and not one of those players is of the quality needed to achieve the club's goals.

To improve Lukaku's first touch he would have to improve his technique which will also help his passing and finishing.

You, yourself said that Mourinho likes experience, I am simply stating the other players KDB would have to compete with to get a pivot spot. I feel Ramires will be used a lot under Mourinho for his work rate. The only thing that is missing is a high work rate passer, I'd love to say Oscar or KDB could do that but in reality, I am not sure Mourinho would choose them. Even if we keep KDB, he'll be 5-6th choice for our AM spots and well down the list for CM unless he has some blistering form there in pre-season. I very much hope he does as it would mean we don't have to buy a Pivot player. Thinking about it, this is probably why we're only monitoring CM's right now, We needed a quick winger and a CF. Now we're waiting for pre season to see if a CM is needed.

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I don't think whether we need one or not is even a question. Apart from up top, its the weakest part of our team. It's why we so often lost the midfield battle against teams and why just about every side from top of the table to bottom could walk through our midfield and make us so susceptible to counterattacks or pressure (I don't care what the stats say about our goals conceded, anyone who watched the games will know it was a nightmare every time we lost the ball and always looked capable of letting one or several in at any point in the game). CM should be neck-and-neck with CF as far as priorities this summer go.

[Kick]

I don't think whether we need one or not is even a question. Apart from up top, its the weakest part of our team. It's why we so often lost the midfield battle against teams and why just about every side from top of the table to bottom could walk through our midfield and make us so susceptible to counterattacks or pressure (I don't care what the stats say about our goals conceded, anyone who watched the games will know it was a nightmare every time we lost the ball and always looked capable of letting one or several in at any point in the game). CM should be neck-and-neck with CF as far as priorities this summer go.

I agree If it was up to me, Essien and possibly Mikel would be shipped out. Depending on Oscar or KDB being able to play there well, I'd bring in a DM and a CM. Lars and Thiago. Or if KDB is able to play in CM, I'd bring in DDR.

I don't think the club is thinking this way though, I think a CF is obvious because of who we have, Schurrle was something the club has wanted for a while. CM is a bit harder to decide on what is needed. I think Jose will be the main decision maker here while Emanelo is probably running the transfer show until then.

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Chelsea to hold talks over Edinson Cavani's transfer from Napoli in the next 24 hours:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-transfers-edinson-cavani-talks-1962257



It's only the Mirror but these are the rumours that have been flying around from numerable sources over the last 2 days or so as we discussed briefly yesterday.

[Kick]

I saw that, then I saw that PSG wanted Luiz and Mata apparently is leaving over a contract dispute. So I didn't post it.

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Only reason I even posted it, as I said, was because it's been reported by numerous, numerous outlets/persons over the last day or two. Otherwise I wouldn't even have given it a thought

[Kick]

I know. It's probably the most accurate out of the three rumours they came up with today.

[Shed]

Their big scoop concerning Mata is the most remarkable. Surely the first time in history someone's had a "fallout" with a person they've yet to even speak to?

[Kick]

Their big scoop concerning Mata is the most remarkable. Surely the first time in history someone's had a "fallout" with a person they've yet to even speak to?

I know!

Mata is in Brazil, Jose is in England and said himself, he cannot travel as the press follow him everywhere!

It's just silly!

[Shed]

People are saying he's already stated he's not been in in any contact whatsoever with any players currently competing in the Confed Cup and will wait until the tournament is over to do so. Ridiculous report.

[Kick]

People are saying he's already stated he's not been in in any contact whatsoever with any players currently competing in the Confed Cup and will wait until the tournament is over to do so. Ridiculous report.

Yeah, like a good professional.

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[Kick]

Certainly hope it's true. He's gonna be a steal if he leaves Barca.

[Kick]

Reports from Holland that PSV have signed Bruma for 3.5m Euros.

[lszanto]

WAGNH saying Abramovic is flying over to meet up with Thiago?

Wouldn't surprise me, it's no secret that he loves barca so taking one of their gems would delight him.

[Kick]

I know, I would be ecstatic if we signed him.

Imagine our midfield:

DM Thiago
Mata/Oscar/Hazard

[lszanto]

I know, I would be ecstatic if we signed him.

Imagine our midfield:

DM Thiago
Mata/Oscar/Hazard

L.Bender Thiago
Mata/Oscar/Hazard

[Kick]

Cech
Azpilicueta Ivanovic Luiz Cole
Bender Thiago
Schurrle Mata Hazard
Cavani

McCarthy
Essien Cahill Terry Bertrand
Mikel Lampard
Ramires Oscar Moses
Ba

I'd love these lineups tbh.

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Cech
Azpilicueta Ivanovic Luiz Cole
Bender Thiago
Schurrle Mata Hazard
Cavani

McCarthy
Essien Cahill Terry Bertrand
Mikel Lampard
Ramires Oscar Moses
Ba

I'd love these lineups tbh.

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^ Nice editing

[Kick]

Show me where I edited it? http://www.goallegacy.net/t30953p450-summer-transfer-thread#933753

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I don't need to point it out. People can check and see for themselves

[Kick]

The invisible editing?

[Shed]

Yada yada yada. That's enough boasting about your heavily edited predicted line-ups for one day

[Kick]

You're just jealous that my lineup is what everyone wants.

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