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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun May 26, 2013 10:05 pm

Is it really so hard to understand that a top player wants to play with the best? He's not going to be his bitch, he might take a support role but he'll be a partner, as every member of a team is.

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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 26, 2013 10:06 pm

People aren't asking the important questions.

Who has shirt sale/image/ media rights... Smile

Great signing, I give him the first year for adjustment to playing in Europe and not being the focus of an attack (something that will benefit him in the end if he has the right attitude). It's also worth noting that he's significantly younger than Messi - and if all does progress smoothly, he may become the focus of the attack at some point in the future

Simultaneously, hopefully I'm wrong and he's a titanic flop.

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Post by julias Sun May 26, 2013 10:22 pm

Swagg wrote:I don't understand why he would want to play with Messi, why would he want to be his bitch?

I don't understand why people think top level footballers think like GL posters, why would he not want to play in the same team as the best player in the world?

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Post by Ganso Sun May 26, 2013 10:23 pm

Tito

“I congratulate the club and the staff who saw that Neymar could become a great player in time. If we got there late, we wouldn't be able to compete.I congratulate the player, because he chose a sports project and not a financial one since other clubs offered more money. We need to appreciate the players we have here, because they made us big . We will see his adaptation in Europe and we are here to help him"
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Post by LeSwagg James Sun May 26, 2013 10:31 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Is it really so hard to understand that a top player wants to play with the best? He's not going to be his bitch, he might take a support role but he'll be a partner, as every member of a team is.

Barca Messi is a black-hole for forwards, sucks up all the goals/assists and will be the focal point for as long as he is able to walk...

Cristiano is one as well, but not as big and probably won't be at Madrid for as long as Messi will be at Barca.. He should of chose us :coffee:
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Post by Ganso Sun May 26, 2013 10:34 pm

if im correct, other than alexis, all strikers who flopped were CFs
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 26, 2013 10:38 pm

Ganso wrote:if im correct, other than alexis, all strikers who flopped were CFs

Yep you can't really compare Villa and Ibra to Neymar because Villa was moved to an un-natural position for Messi and besides Villa was good before his injury.

As for Ibra their was no space for Ibra to drop back into that he has at every other club because Messi was occupying that space once Messi moved to central it was obvious it wouldn't work.

Neymar is a winger and has played there his entire career so doesn't fall into either category.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 26, 2013 10:43 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Ganso wrote:if im correct, other than alexis, all strikers who flopped were CFs

Yep you can't really compare Villa and Ibra to Neymar because Villa was moved to an un-natural position for Messi and besides Villa was good before his injury.

As for Ibra their was no space for Ibra to drop back into that he has at every other club because Messi was occupying that space once Messi moved to central it was obvious it wouldn't work.

Neymar is a winger and has played there his entire career so doesn't fall into either category.

Villa played in a fairly familiar position throughout - he was - for the majority of his career a second striker. Even while playing centre forward, he had a free role where he could mainly pick up the ball in space on the left.

His problem was not being the focus of the attack - something he eventually adjusted to before getting injured.

Neymar will probably go through a similar process.
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Post by julias Sun May 26, 2013 10:50 pm

The only reason Neymar has assumed the role of centre of attack for Santos is because he had to, otherwise they would have won F all.

Neymar is at any given point 10 times better than any other Santos player on the pitch, if you are far better than everyone else you are forced to assume centre of attack whether you like it or not.

Neymar won't have this problem at Barca in fact I won't be surprised if it liberates him and allows him to play more freely.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 26, 2013 10:56 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Ganso wrote:if im correct, other than alexis, all strikers who flopped were CFs

Yep you can't really compare Villa and Ibra to Neymar because Villa was moved to an un-natural position for Messi and besides Villa was good before his injury.

As for Ibra their was no space for Ibra to drop back into that he has at every other club because Messi was occupying that space once Messi moved to central it was obvious it wouldn't work.

Neymar is a winger and has played there his entire career so doesn't fall into either category.

Villa played in a fairly familiar position throughout - he was - for the majority of his career a second striker. Even while playing centre forward, he had a free role where he could mainly pick up the ball in space on the left.

His problem was not being the focus of the attack - something he eventually adjusted to before getting injured.

Neymar will probably go through a similar process.

I do agree but as i said Villa was very good till his injury.

I doubt many Barca fans will complain if Neymar scores twice in the Clasico and in the CL final and scoring over 20 goals next season.
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Post by Ganso Sun May 26, 2013 10:59 pm

julias wrote:The only reason Neymar has assumed the role of centre of attack for Santos is because he had to, otherwise they would have won F all.

Neymar is at any given point 10 times better than any other Santos player on the pitch, if you are far better than everyone else you are forced to assume centre of attack whether you like it or not.

Neymar won't have this problem at Barca in fact I won't be surprised if it liberates him and allows him to play more freely.
yeah,thats what everyone says over here.Back in the prime of Santos he wasnt in the center of it all,he shared the responsibility with Ganso,Elano,Danilo,Alex Sandro,good CFs.Now this Santos team has Neymar and a good DM/GK,and thats it.Santos finished midtable last season because they lost almost every game neymar didnt play due to national team duty

i feel like this is kind of the situation Bale is in atm (even though Tottenham have quite a lot of good players)
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Post by julias Sun May 26, 2013 11:02 pm

Ganso wrote:
julias wrote:The only reason Neymar has assumed the role of centre of attack for Santos is because he had to, otherwise they would have won F all.

Neymar is at any given point 10 times better than any other Santos player on the pitch, if you are far better than everyone else you are forced to assume centre of attack whether you like it or not.

Neymar won't have this problem at Barca in fact I won't be surprised if it liberates him and allows him to play more freely.
yeah,thats what everyone says over here.Back in the prime of Santos he wasnt in the center of it all,he shared the responsibility with Ganso,Elano,Danilo,Alex Sandro,good CFs.Now this Santos team has Neymar and a good DM/GK,and thats it.Santos finished midtable last season because they lost almost every game neymar didnt play due to national team duty

i feel like this is kind of the situation Bale is in atm (even though Tottenham have quite a lot of good players)

Yea but that period with those players was like what 2 years ago now? Moreover the period that those players were all together was not more than a season I'm sure, unless I'm mistaken.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 26, 2013 11:15 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:mole in barca fan mode after his team almost gets relegated Laughing

or is it dortmund hmm

or bayern hmm

Just seen this..... why would i talk about Newcastle when zero is happening with regards to my club at the moment and besides like any of you would care Laughing

Pls go.
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Post by Ganso Sun May 26, 2013 11:15 pm

it was basically 2009-2011,then in 2012 the team became crap.This year they are even worse and almost completely relying on Nerman.At least they were until today
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Post by Onyx Sun May 26, 2013 11:27 pm

We missed out on Neymar and Aguero signed an extension. No

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Post by julias Sun May 26, 2013 11:29 pm

Ganso wrote:it was basically 2009-2011,then in 2012 the team became crap.This year they are even worse and almost completely relying on Nerman.At least they were until today

Ahh I see

I feel sorry for Santos lol
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Post by Zealous Mon May 27, 2013 11:12 am

Bruno Saldanha (Brazilian editor) saying on Punto Pelota that Barca will have paid 74 million for Nerman!!!

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Also said that Nerman will have close to 100% of his image rights.

If this is true, holy sh*t lol

EDIT:

This is likely bullsh*t btw but the 50 million price tag is probably legit. Sure Barca paid 28 to Santos, DIS Group and TEISA Group, but I'm sure they had to make other payments.

Oh and BTW if Nerman does have 100% of his image rights then that is a huge fck up on Barca's end. Madrid were said to want 50% of his image rights (club standard). Nerman doesn't care about money Proud
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Post by danyjr Mon May 27, 2013 11:31 am

I love how you're trying to convince yourself that Barcelona have paid a lot for him while Madrid are well known record holders for overpaying for overrated players. Proud
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Post by Zealous Mon May 27, 2013 11:37 am

danyjr wrote:I love how you're trying to convince yourself that Barcelona have paid a lot for him while Madrid are well known record holders for overpaying for overrated players. Proud

We were going to pay 60 million lol

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Post by harhar11 Mon May 27, 2013 1:35 pm

You must be really desperate if you are using Punto Pelota Proud

Punto Pelota are probably even worse than the sun. IIRC, they were the ones who deleted some frames in that infamous Pepe - Alves video and later spread it..

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Post by jibers Mon May 27, 2013 1:38 pm

Why are Madrid fans so upset? Ego taken a knock?

I'm intersted to see what Neymar does, I feel this is another step in shifting away from Guardiola's football to a more conventional approach.
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Post by izzy Mon May 27, 2013 2:05 pm

jibercus wrote:Why are Madrid fans so upset? Ego taken a knock?

I'm intersted to see what Neymar does, I feel this is another step in shifting away from Guardiola's football to a more conventional approach.

Ummm, I not.

Interested to see how he'll do. It's a World Cup year next season. Big season lies ahead for him.
Interesting to see how he takes on the challenge.
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Post by Zealous Mon May 27, 2013 2:12 pm

harhar11 wrote:You must be really desperate if you are using Punto Pelota Proud

Punto Pelota are probably even worse than the sun. IIRC, they were the ones who deleted some frames in that infamous Pepe - Alves video and later spread it..

Fully agree punto pelota is 99% garbage. But the guy making the claims has connections in Brazil. Dude is probably wrong but there is a huge difference between 28 and 74 lol

jibercus wrote:Why are Madrid fans so upset? Ego taken a knock?

I'm intersted to see what Neymar does, I feel this is another step in shifting away from Guardiola's football to a more conventional approach.

lol no

Nerman will be a good signing for Barca in the long term. I just want to make sense of the transfer fee.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 27, 2013 2:15 pm

Whats there to make sense of?

Its probably the biggest transfer fee for someone in last year of contract in like ever lol.

Y'all just butthurt Proud
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Post by Zealous Mon May 27, 2013 2:23 pm

Then do these reports keep popping up? lol
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 27, 2013 2:25 pm

Zealous wrote:Then do these reports keep popping up? lol

Not in reputable sources nah not really.

Its either Madrid-based sources with a obvious agenda or just blatantly crappy sources in general.

Anyway wait and see what the two clubs have to say.
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