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Post by Red Alert Tue May 05, 2015 6:45 am

Klopp in.

Reus in.



Gundogan maybe? We need another midfielder. Lucas Henderson is okay, maybe we can stick Coutinho back in there and then get another player in the final third. Or give Can a chance, see if he's ready.

Need someone in defence to challenge Skrtel / Sakho too.

And a full back. Preferably one that can play on the left and the right because still not convinced Moreno has settled just yet, and GJ + Enrique should be off.

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Post by iftikhar Tue May 05, 2015 6:53 am

Mignolet
RB-Skrtel-Sakho-Moreno
Emre
Henderson-Kovacic
Coutinho
Higuain-Depay
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Post by Art Morte Tue May 05, 2015 10:01 am

Mignolet
Panic - Skrtel - Sakho - Can
Lucas
Henderson - Fer
Coutinho
Sturridge - Ibe

Cool
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Post by iftikhar Tue May 05, 2015 10:31 am

Art Morte wrote:
Mignolet
Panic - Skrtel - Sakho - Can
Lucas
Henderson - Fer
Coutinho
Sturridge - Ibe

Cool
Arty you need some sleep
















or drink Wink
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Post by Curtinho Tue May 05, 2015 1:11 pm

Hmm...after this summer, a semi-realistic dream team:

Simon Mignolet (Mat Ryan)
Tony Jantschke (Javier Manquillo) - Dejan Lovren (Martin Skrtel) - Mamadou Sakho (Tiago Ilori) - Alberto Moreno (Jon Flanagan)
Jordan Henderson (Joe Allen) - Emre Can (Lucas)
Philippe Coutinho (Adam Lallana)
Raheem Sterling (Jordon Ibe) - Gonzalo Higuain (Divock Origi) - Memphis Depay (Lazar Markovic)
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Post by iftikhar Wed May 06, 2015 4:12 am

El Cujo wrote:Hmm...after this summer, a semi-realistic dream team:

Simon Mignolet (Mat Ryan)
Tony Jantschke (Javier Manquillo) - Dejan Lovren (Martin Skrtel) - Mamadou Sakho (Tiago Ilori) - Alberto Moreno (Jon Flanagan)
Jordan Henderson (Joe Allen) - Emre Can (Lucas)
Philippe Coutinho (Adam Lallana)
Raheem Sterling (Jordon Ibe) - Gonzalo Higuain (Divock Origi) - Memphis Depay (Lazar Markovic)
Not bad Thumbs up

No clue about him
The other way round
Will be injured/unavailable till November
Where is freaking Sturridge
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Post by RedOranje Wed May 06, 2015 4:19 am

Probably in the physio's room.
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Post by rwo power Wed May 06, 2015 4:20 am

Tony Jantschke is needed at Gladbach! Fortunately his contract runs till 2018, so Gladbach won't have to sell cheaply *if* they would sell. He's a very useful defender who can play CB, LB, RB and DM, thus he is one of the player types that Lucien Favre cherishes greatly.
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Post by McAgger Wed May 06, 2015 5:17 am

I'd rather get Patrick Herrmann from BMG. And if we're looking at Bundelisga, would love me some Bernd Leno.
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Post by iftikhar Wed May 06, 2015 6:36 am

rwo power wrote:Tony Jantschke is needed at Gladbach! Fortunately his contract runs till 2018, so Gladbach won't have to sell cheaply *if* they would sell. He's a very useful defender who can play CB, LB, RB and DM, thus he is one of the player types that Brendon Rodgers cherishes greatly.
Whatever price we might end up paying, I'm sure that would be several millions less than what we might have to pay for a similar quality player from else where. Chaka
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Post by Red Alert Wed May 06, 2015 7:05 am

*Awaits RedO's team*

We all know he wants a RB, but what else does he want to improve upon. And does he want a change of manager? hmm
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Wed May 06, 2015 12:12 pm

Gonna stick my neck out there and say I'd rather we go with a RB from academy if it means we can buy a 30M attacker instead of a 15M one.

FullBacks over the course of the season don't win you points. If we had Bertrand/Azplicueta instead of Moreno this season, we'd be 2-3 points better off maximum...but if we had any sort of attacking better than the shitty triangle, we'd be at least around 10 points better off.

With our limited budget, get the priorities right.

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Post by mr-r34 Wed May 06, 2015 12:38 pm

Red Alert wrote:*Awaits RedO's team*

We all know he wants a RB, but what else does he want to improve upon. And does he want a change of manager? hmm


Striker and No. His said it before, i think hahaha
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Post by rwo power Wed May 06, 2015 12:41 pm

iftikhar wrote:
rwo power wrote:Tony Jantschke is needed at Gladbach! Fortunately his contract runs till 2018, so Gladbach won't have to sell cheaply *if* they would sell. He's a very useful defender who can play CB, LB, RB and DM, thus he is one of the player types that Brendon Rodgers cherishes greatly.
Whatever price we might end up paying, I'm sure that would be several millions less than what we might have to pay for a similar quality player from else where. Chaka
You conveniently ignore the *if* :coffee:

And LOL XD
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Post by Curtinho Wed May 06, 2015 1:52 pm

RedOranje wrote:Probably in the physio's room.

This. I'm not ready to comment on Sturridge he is undergoing hip surgery which is scary as hell, and he was in very poor form most of this season even when 'healthy'.

Don't call me James wrote:I'd rather get Patrick Herrmann from BMG. And if we're looking at Bundelisga, would love me some Bernd Leno.


You're just saying that because I brought him up last year, and earlier this year. :coffee: But really we probably don't need Herrmann unless we're selling another winger.
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Post by Kick Thu May 07, 2015 12:00 am

Natalie Portman wrote:Gonna stick my neck out there and say I'd rather we go with a RB from academy if it means we can buy a 30M attacker instead of a 15M one.

FullBacks over the course of the season don't win you points. If we had Bertrand/Azplicueta instead of Moreno this season, we'd be 2-3 points better off maximum...but if we had any sort of attacking better than the shitty triangle, we'd be at least around 10 points better off.

With our limited budget, get the priorities right.


Do you have any decent RB's?

If not, look at how Marcelo cost Madrid the other night and you may want to re consider.

If you play a youth player, other teams will target them and if they get exposed, you'll lose more than 2-3 points.

For example, every team targets our RB because everyone knows that Azpilicueta is a superior defender to Ivanovic, and while it doesn't cost us points, if we replaced Azpilicueta with Jay Dasilva (who is one of our youth players), everyone would target him and he'd, in all likelyhood, get horribly exposed.
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Post by RedOranje Thu May 07, 2015 2:14 am

Ideally?  
Give Sturridge bionic legs, sign Müller, sign Lahm.

Mignolet
Lahm - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Henderson - Can
Coutinho
Müller - Bionic Sturridge - Sterling

Bench:
Jones or whoever
Lovren
Flanagan
Allen/Lucas
Lallana
Markovic
Origi


Realistically?
Sign Auba or Lacazette as a forward who offers something very similar to Sturridge, sign a RB as we'll be without otherwise, address any exits that might happen.

Mignolet
Unknown* - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Henderson - Can
Coutinho
Markovic/Lallana - Aubameyang/Lacazette - Sterling


Bench:
Jones or whoever
Flanagan
Lovren
Lucas
Allen
Lallana/Markovic
Origi

*I have no clue what RBs are decent and might be available.  I do know that we desperately need to sign a player to address the position however.


Then reassess at the end of the season and make changes as needed.  You know, specifically what I stated in the transfer thread post that no-one seems to have read.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Thu May 07, 2015 3:26 pm

Kick wrote:
Natalie Portman wrote:Gonna stick my neck out there and say I'd rather we go with a RB from academy if it means we can buy a 30M attacker instead of a 15M one.

FullBacks over the course of the season don't win you points. If we had Bertrand/Azplicueta instead of Moreno this season, we'd be 2-3 points better off maximum...but if we had any sort of attacking better than the shitty triangle, we'd be at least around 10 points better off.

With our limited budget, get the priorities right.


Do you have any decent RB's?

If not, look at how Marcelo cost Madrid the other night and you may want to re consider.

If you play a youth player, other teams will target them and if they get exposed, you'll lose more than 2-3 points.

For example, every team targets our RB because everyone knows that Azpilicueta is a superior defender to Ivanovic, and while it doesn't cost us points, if we replaced Azpilicueta with Jay Dasilva (who is one of our youth players), everyone would target him and he'd, in all likelyhood, get horribly exposed.


It's not about that my Kiwi friend.

As a whole, Strikers are worth more to a team than fullbacks. If you have unlimited budget, then yea, you can bolster both to perfection and have two back up Fullbacks for 60m euros combined like Real Madrid.

But when your budget is limited, and you have to prioritize, then it's a no brainer that over the course of a season a super-striker wins you more points than a super-fullback.

A Lewandowski wins you more points than a Phillip Lahm.
A Suarez wins your more points than a Azplicueta.

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Post by Curtinho Thu May 07, 2015 3:43 pm

Natalie Portman wrote:A Lewandowski wins you more points than a Phillip Lahm.
A Suarez wins your more points than a Azplicueta.


This is more true than people are willing to admit. A lot of people complain about the fixation on 'goals and assists' but the reality is that you can have the best defensive or possession based team in the world and it won't do you any good if you can't score. It's not only the hardest thing to do in the game, but it's the most important. That's not to say that having a strong midfield or defence isn't important, it absolutely is, but if I'm building a team I would always build it around strikers/attackers first.

Getting goalscorers this summer is the absolute #1 priority.
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Post by BusterLfc Sat May 09, 2015 10:03 am

Mignolet
Manquillo - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Henderson - Lucas - Gundogan
Coutinho
Lacazette - Sturridge

subs:
Jones
Flanagan
Enrique
Ilori
Lovren
Toure
Can
Allen
Lallana
Markovic
Sterling
Ibe
Origi
Balotelli/Aspas (either one of them to stay as a 3rd choice striker, preferably Aspas - less wages)


Though this probably won't happen, it's still my ideal team.


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Post by mr-r34 Sat May 09, 2015 2:04 pm

Honestly i really want to sort our defense and go back to a back 4 FFS.

I would love to see

------------Mig
New Rb Sahko Skrtel Moreno
------------Can
------Henderson Cou
Sterling-------------Ibe(Marko/lallana)
---------New Striker


Sturridge if fit or another Top striker at the top, Can as a DM, stop playing the Guy in defense lets build him as a proper DM so he can become a beast quicker, convert Cou to a creative CM who can help control the middle, use our existing wide forwards as real attacking players instead of *bleep* wing backs.

Honestly i really think were 2-3 signings away from actually getting a solid top 4 spot next year and a potential tittle challenge. If only Rodgers could sort the defense out thought.
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Post by Red Alert Sun May 10, 2015 7:59 am

mr-r34 wrote:
Honestly i really think were 2-3 signings away from actually getting a solid top 4 spot next year and a potential tittle challenge. If only Rodgers could sort the defense out thought.


Not with Rodgers in charge we won't.

Abuse me all you want. But that's the reality of it all.
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Post by Curtinho Mon May 11, 2015 5:16 pm

lol

With Rodgers in charge we could never be a top 4 team or challenge for the title, for sure. :coffee:
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Post by Helmer Mon May 11, 2015 6:31 pm

mr-r34 wrote:
Honestly i really think were 2-3 signings away from actually getting a solid top 4 spot next year and a potential tittle challenge. If only Rodgers could sort the defense out thought.

this season we were just a striker away from finishin in top 4 :coffee:

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Post by iftikhar Tue May 12, 2015 4:16 am

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
mr-r34 wrote:
Honestly i really think were 2-3 signings away from actually getting a solid top 4 spot next year and a potential tittle challenge. If only Rodgers could sort the defense out thought.

this season we were just a striker away from finishin in top 4 :coffee:
and some tactical blunders... :coffee:
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Post by mr-r34 Tue May 12, 2015 11:22 am

iftikhar wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
mr-r34 wrote:
Honestly i really think were 2-3 signings away from actually getting a solid top 4 spot next year and a potential tittle challenge. If only Rodgers could sort the defense out thought.

this season we were just a striker away from finishin in top 4 :coffee:
and some tactical blunders... :coffee:


Not even, just give us a proper striker and we would of made top 4.
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