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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:14 am

Sergio Batista claimed that if against Colombia the play didn't improve then he'll make changes to the squad. He has just hired YOU as a new assistant to help out in this transition. You are in charge of making reasonable (Batista is not going to drop the whole system now), possible (only within the 23 man squad) and practical solutions to the problem of how Argentina is playing.

One of Batista's promises coming in was to make Messi shine, which so far he has only been able to do in friendlies, so keep this in mind. Also keep in mind that Batista only has 5 days to make and implement these changes so there won't be any chances to practice.

So far Batista has shown a willingness to work with a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1.

What do YOU suggest?

Try to justify your suggestions rather than just posting them.


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Post by shinigami99 Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:17 am

4-2-3-1
Romero
Zabaleta-Garay-Pareja-Zanetti
Banega/Gago--Mascherano
Messi---Pastore-----Kun
-------- Higuain----------

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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:18 am

romero
zabaleta masch milito zanetti
cambiasso banega
messi pastore di maria
aguero
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Post by Lex Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:18 am

Kidnap Xavi and brainwash him into thinking he's Argentine
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Post by Körbl Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:19 am

If they want to play to serve messi this should be the line up, Not at Barca level but as close as it gets

back 4

------------Masch--------------------
--------Pastore------Banega

Messi-------Hiquian------ Di Maria


Aguero = Super sub
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Post by Swanhends Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:19 am

my first step is to tie Batista up and lock him in a closet so I have full control of the team, then:

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banega mascherano cambiasso
messi pastore
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Post by Adit Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:20 am

play di maria and higuain they have such a nice chemistry.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:23 am

i wouldnt start higuain, he is still slugish and not near his full fitness level.

with the kind of defenses argentina is playing against he is a liability
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Post by Internal Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:25 am

-----------romero
zabaleta--garay-milito--zanetti
-----cambiasso--banega
messi---pastore-----lavezzi
----------milito

game ova :bball: edit


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Post by Jay29 Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:25 am

In my opinion playing both Cambiasso and Mascherano is unnecessay, especially when you're going up against opposition you're expected to beat. Neither are great passers and they don't posess great movement off the ball. It's putting too much pressure on Banega to create and support the attack, which isn't his natural game.

4-2-3-1 might be a better option, with Banega playing alongside one of Cambiasso or Mascherano in the double pivot.

The three ahead of them should all be quick, creative players. Di Maria, Messi and one of Aguero or Pastore would do nicely. The three can interchange throughout the match.

This can be supplemented by Carlos Tevez up front.

So altogether:

Romero

Zabaleta --- Garay --- Milito --- Zanetti

Mascherano --- Banega

Pastore --- Messi --- Di Maria

Tevez

If you need to change it, you've got Aguero and Higuain on the bench.


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Post by Körbl Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:26 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i wouldnt start higuain, he is still slugish and not near his full fitness level.

with the kind of defenses argentina is playing against he is a liability

Don't worry about higgy, if used right he will get a lucky bounce to him and nail it into the goal.
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Post by Guiltybystander Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:26 am

Yeah, Di Maria and Higuain need to play together, and Milito has to go bury his little slimeface in the ground and make way for Garay.

Btw, there was no deliberate picking of just (sort of former) Madrid players; I'd
send Gago in the first plane home.
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Post by izzy Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:28 am

Adit wrote:play di maria and higuain they have such a nice chemistry.

Huh? Higgy was injured for the majority of the season, I don't think him and Di Maria have that much of a great chemistry plus Higgy still looks sluggish.
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Post by Sushi Master Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:32 am

Romero
Zanetti Burdisso Milito Rojo
Mascherano
Banega Pastore
Messi Tevez
Higuain
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:37 am

maxwellwilson02 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i wouldnt start higuain, he is still slugish and not near his full fitness level.

with the kind of defenses argentina is playing against he is a liability

Don't worry about higgy, if used right he will get a lucky bounce to him and nail it into the goal.

I still wouldnt play him, Aguero is in much better form right now, and makes some pretty fierce runs behind the defense.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:42 am

Call me crazy, but I'd bench Messi for a game and see if the team plays better


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Zab-Burdisso-Garay-Zanetti
Masch-Banega
Aguero-Pastore-Di Maria
Tevez

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Post by Körbl Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:43 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
maxwellwilson02 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i wouldnt start higuain, he is still slugish and not near his full fitness level.

with the kind of defenses argentina is playing against he is a liability

Don't worry about higgy, if used right he will get a lucky bounce to him and nail it into the goal.

I still wouldnt play him, Aguero is in much better form right now, and makes some pretty fierce runs behind the defense.

If this team wants to play to there fullest Messi has to start look like he is integrated into the system and I believe this is the lineup that best works for him. Pastore and Messi can do all the dribbling they like, don't need a next one like aguero.


back 4

------------Mas--------------------
--------Pastore------Banega( Gago)

Messi-------Hiquian------ Di Maria
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Post by Körbl Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:44 am

Sepi wrote:Call me crazy, but I'd bench Messi for a game and see if the team plays better


Romero
Zab-Burdisso-Garay-Zanetti
Masch-Banega
Aguero-Pastore-Di Maria
Tevez

That would actually be smart: bring him on in the second half if not Very Happy
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:48 am

maxwellwilson02 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
maxwellwilson02 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i wouldnt start higuain, he is still slugish and not near his full fitness level.

with the kind of defenses argentina is playing against he is a liability

Don't worry about higgy, if used right he will get a lucky bounce to him and nail it into the goal.

I still wouldnt play him, Aguero is in much better form right now, and makes some pretty fierce runs behind the defense.

If this team wants to play to there fullest Messi has to start look like he is integrated into the system and I believe this is the lineup that best works for him. Pastore and Messi can do all the dribbling they like, don't need a next one like aguero.


back 4

------------Mas--------------------
--------Pastore------Banega( Gago)

Messi-------Hiquian------ Di Maria

aguero doesnt play anything like messi or pastore, he is very much a #9. Higuain is diminished atm, there would be argument if he wasnt, but now it looks straight forward to me.
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Post by Körbl Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:50 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
maxwellwilson02 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
maxwellwilson02 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i wouldnt start higuain, he is still slugish and not near his full fitness level.

with the kind of defenses argentina is playing against he is a liability

Don't worry about higgy, if used right he will get a lucky bounce to him and nail it into the goal.

I still wouldnt play him, Aguero is in much better form right now, and makes some pretty fierce runs behind the defense.

If this team wants to play to there fullest Messi has to start look like he is integrated into the system and I believe this is the lineup that best works for him. Pastore and Messi can do all the dribbling they like, don't need a next one like aguero.


back 4

------------Mas--------------------
--------Pastore------Banega( Gago)

Messi-------Hiquian------ Di Maria

aguero doesnt play anything like messi or pastore, he is very much a #9. Higuain is diminished atm, there would be argument if he wasnt, but now it looks straight forward to me.

he doesn't play like messi but I see Hiquain performing better in the line up I propose
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Post by kiranr Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:26 am

Considering how he wants to play a Barcelona system, the best formation is 4-3-3.

He will have to trust his defenders a little more and play only 1 DM. My formation is

romero
zabaleta--garay-milito--zanetti
--cambiasso--
--Banega-------Pastore--
lavezzi--------------------Di Maria
Messi

Messi playing as false nine which i think is his best position. The players should be specifically instructed to play around Messi with both wingers making inside runs and the fullbacks overlapping them.
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Post by Omniscient Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:38 am

Romero
Zabaleta Mascherano Garay Zanetti
Banega Cambiasso
Messi Pastore Di Maria
Aguero

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Post by Jeps33178 Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:06 am

This is easy, I would actually bench Messi if I notice hes not performing and I would play Pastore

Then I Start Higuain and Kun Aguero together, because Tevez only plays to full potential as a lone ST

Also I would really consider replacing Milito, as hes committed countless errors

----------------------------------Romero------------------------------
Zabaleta-----------Burdisso-------------Garay-----------Zanetti
-----------------------Banega-------------Masch-------------------
---------------Messi----------------------------DiMaria--------------
------------------------Higuain----------Kun-------------------------

Subs: Pastore(or Cambiasso depending on situation), Lavezzi, Tevez
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Post by daneq Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:57 am

Z----garray----masch----z
----cambi---------ever
Angel------messi-------kun
------------higgy

Justification? Because I'm smarter than all of you.
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Post by theaguia Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:56 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
romero
zabaleta masch milito zanetti
cambiasso banega
messi pastore di maria
aguero

this except garay for milito this team is what they need to win
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