Carlo Ancelotti next RM manager watch

halamadrid2 wrote:here we go again going for names rather than long term "better fit" coaches whom people might not know off


both carlo and rafa would be disasters waiting to happen at madrid, doubt they would complete more than one season at the helm.


why cant we just do what atleti or barca did? sign a coach who bleeds the club?

I would love pochetino at our club, the guy loves us and his teams actually know how to roll the ball around properly.

the list goes on, laudrup, pepe mel, etc...

Arquitecto wrote:

Se7en wrote:he was carried by a great milan team and thats why he won cl with milan, he is actually a crap manager and we wont win anything with him

this is why im against sacking mou, honestly, who else is there in this market? there are no better coach than mou in the market, we just have to settle with what we have. carlo is crap and benitez is better but wouldnt want him either

Carried by a Milan team

Same logic that usually applies to Pep being carried by Barcelona's team when he actually developed and harnessed the players strengths and weaknesses.

Carlo did the same with Pirlo, Kaka, Gattuso, Costa (switch band donadoni type role) along with the team being raw, undeveloped and a misconstrued mess before him. Did I mention that he created an absolute brilliant system fuelled by some ridiculously meticulous tactics which drove that team?

The league flop thing is also highly exaggerated as Calciopoli caused damage to Milan. While at Chelsea he won a double in his first year with an aging Chelsea, 2nd year was marred right when he was ordered to play Torres in all conditions.

Let the myth die.

The league flop tag is very deserved IMO.

One frigging league with Milan in what... 8, 9 seasons?

In his last seasons it's understandable he didn't win the league because he only had grandpas, but he had a great team in at least 4 of those seasons, and yet only 1 league. Ridiculous.

With Chelsea he certainly brushed this tag a bit, but we don't know how it would have continued.

Carlo is not a bad manager lol

His league record isn't great but he wouldn't be the worst choice ever.

I like Laudrup a lot and would welcome him with open arms but Carlo is more proven on the biggest stage. I wouldn't be upset if he signed for us.

Anyone but Benitez though.

Should go for Pepe Mel

Toril

zizzle wrote:Carlo is a bad manager ?

If we are going to get into specifics then yes....

A fantastic coach though.

Carlo has a method of breaking PTB teams hm2. I've witnessed it at PSG. He's Mou with better tactics and less motivational skills (Carlo is not a tyrant). We'll do great in CL/CDR and struggle in league... pretty much guaranteed.

If you could combine Mancini in league and Carlo in cup, you'd have the perfect manager lol.

Why does Pochettino bleed white? He never played for you...

Carlo Ancelotti .The man is incompetent as hell, i dont know why you label him as an superior tactitian to Mou when he was exploited numerous times at Chelsea. PTB expert, hmm thats new for me.

To me Carlo is like a superior Benitez....

He has a great tactical mind which comes to the fore in one off or 2 legged ties in the CL.

But he doesn't have the management skills or winning mentality which is needed to be consistent league winner.

Which goes somewhere to explain why his record is better in Europe than in his domestic league.

Carlo at Madrid would have the best squad in Spain if he were to sign for us. Any weaknesses he has in the league could be compensated with just that.

I've been a fan of Pepe Mel before any of you knew what he looked like I wouldn't mind him either tbh.

RIP Madrids youth.

Based on how he's handled Lyon, Porto and Valencia... perfect tactics against all 3. And this despite having putrid fullbacks at his disposal. Again, he's not a motivator, which is why he fails in league so often. But you get him in a tie situation and he'll put it together. He's won enough cup competitions, including CL a couple of times, to prove it.

LeDNA wrote:RIP Madrids youth.

Like you would have used it anyway

Also Zeal best squad in Spain is Catalonia not part of Spain anymore

Actually Mou was reknown for the cups and CL, mostly the second leg ties. Not just that but the amount of league titles he has won over the years, something where Carlo fails to excell at.

So the whole idea is to reach Semis of Cl or CDR perhaps just to end up 4th or 5th in the league.

LOL

Carlo is completely responsible for three things which would always make hi a great manager, or at least a highly above average one:

1- Converting Pirlo is a DLP thereby providing both Milan and Italy with one of the best midfielders of the last 20 years.

2- Completely creating the Milan team of 2003-2007 which dominated Europe as much as the current Barca is doing now.

3- Consistently had Milan playing beautiful football in Europe.

Of course, he had many downfalls, some of which are his fault and some simply a product of the environment:

1- He sat on that Milan team and did not regenerate it fast enough.
(Milan have been hit with a financial crisis and Calciopoli, both which contributed to that happening).

2- Failed at big games too often. Which is probably his biggest weakness, he is simply too nice and mellow. While few managers could have created that Milan teams, few managers could have such bipolar results as 3-0 drubbing and 3-0 defeats as Carlo. Carlo could do well with an assisstant coach like Gattuso who would motivate the players well, because Carlo is too nice sometimes.

The league flop tag is stupid IMO. Milan were competing with a Juve who was built for the league, with insane depth and clutch players all around. After Calciopoli, we had a ridiculously advantaged Inter strolling through the League (and they were built for league competitions as well).

Carlo did well in Chelsea, and is doing fine at PSG. A lot of the PSG faithful in France and the French media seem to like him.

I am not saying that Madrid should be signing Carlo, but FFS, have some respect for the man. Get knocked out of the CL, and this would be the worst season for Madrid since before Capello, it is not like Mou is doing miracles here.

Not a fan of Carlo AT ALL.

It seems possible, and honestly probably the most justifiable out of the managers we havent had yet (which are pretty few now).

Still, I hope it doesnt work out and honestly why would he leave PSG. Seems to be having a good time over there.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

LeDNA wrote:RIP Madrids youth.

Like you would have used it anyway

Also Zeal best squad in Spain is Catalonia not part of Spain anymore

That's true, but we still managed to get a few to the first team lol..

Always hated him in Chelsea, His first year was good agreed, after that he literally went nuts. His not doing any better with PSG either, I mean the previous coach they had before he got the sack had similar results. The only 2 things to sepperate these 2 was that he won a trophy with a side pre the oil money came in. So Carlo was more signed as a prestigious object ever since. Relies far too on talent.

The xcx wrote:Always hated him in Chelsea, His first year was good agreed, after that he literally went nuts. His not doing any better with PSG either, I mean the previous coach they had before he got the sack had similar results. So Carlo was more signed as a prestigious object.

His second year at Chelsea was not bad as Mou's current year at Madrid. Now compare the leagues and the two teams and decide yourself who is in the most privileged position not to F-Up.

vanDEEZ wrote:Not a fan of Carlo AT ALL.

It seems possible, and honestly probably the most justifiable out of the managers we havent had yet (which are pretty few now).

Still, I hope it doesnt work out and honestly why would he leave PSG. Seems to be having a good time over there.

His contract ends this summer, and the Qatari want a go at Mourinho. It's not up to him to stay. Now, if Mourinho makes it clear he aint going to PSG, then they will want to keep Ancelotti.

Unfortunately, if Mou goes to Chelsea, the debate will switch up to Benitez.

Ok , if a two guys who have 4 Cl titles between them aren't good enough for Madrid then who is?