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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:03 pm

No i would have benched one of the midfielders because they were pointless.

Because unlike you i realize that midfield control means nothing against a Barca team which were complete by passing it anyway Laughing

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:05 pm

It's a pointless argument. We lost, and we lost pretty clearly in the end.
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Post by futbol on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:08 pm

And how open will Bayern be defensively with 2 bodies less in the middle? Let's ignore "midfield dominance" and concentrate on the defensive phase. Slowlonso and Thiago going to create enough chances as well as boss the defensive phase of the game? Okay.

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Post by Kaladin on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:09 pm

Pep is a good coach
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:12 pm

@futbol wrote:And how open will Bayern be defensively with 2 bodies less in the middle? Let's ignore "midfield dominance" and concentrate on the defensive phase. Slowlonso and Thiago going to create enough chances as well as boss the defensive phase of the game? Okay.


i never said 2.... i said one. Besides they were open regardless Laughing

You are looking far too much into this to suit your agenda of " Pep sucks lolz" All i was saying is i believe they would have won if they didn't have so many injuries last year and i don't believe that is such a far fetched claim to make.

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Post by farfan on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:16 pm

i'm not sure why he's insisting with the " 2 midfield " thing as if it was inevitable . Laughing

Bayern could've fielded a 3 man midfield + Robery with the only notable absence being a badly concussed striker who had no business being there in the first place .
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Post by futbol on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:24 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:It's a pointless argument. We lost, and we lost pretty clearly in the end.


Yes, it is pointless. I just want people to realize the very simple principle that you can't take away some parts of a system to add other components and then pretend it's like merging the positives of both worlds together without side effects. We're not talking about like for like substitutions here (winger for winger). If you replace 2 midfielders with 2 wingers (even world class or top 5 or whatever wingers), taking away the midfielders can have bigger negative effects than adding the 2 world class wingers. For instance Bayern might not be able to move the ball forward to create enough chances or defend well enough.

Now people here even suggested moving Müller to 9 and leaving Lewandowski on the bench in Fifa-esque lineups to suit their argument. Which is totally pointless as Müller's strength is playing as a shadow striker in the spaces that others like Lewandowski create. And not wrestling with centerbacks.

I'll make it short. If Robben and Ribery are fit, some other world class players will have to be on the bench and what Bayern gain in wingplay they will lose somewhere else. This is so because Bayern have too much depth. So this argument "they already only lost 3-5 without Robbery, they'd win 6-5 with them" doesn't really work. They might lose 6-10.

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Post by futbol on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:27 pm

@farfan wrote:i'm not sure why he's insisting with the " 2 midfield " thing as if it was inevitable . Laughing

Bayern could've fielded a 3 man midfield + Robery with the only notable absence being a badly concussed striker who had no business being there in the first place .


"Only notable absence" the most dangerous player on the pitch for Bayern. Okay. You keep talking about theory, I look at what happened in reality on the pitch.

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Post by Harmonica on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:27 pm

I'll just leave this here.

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Post by farfan on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:33 pm

@futbol wrote:
@farfan wrote:i'm not sure why he's insisting with the " 2 midfield " thing as if it was inevitable . Laughing

Bayern could've fielded a 3 man midfield + Robery with the only notable absence being a badly concussed striker who had no business being there in the first place .


"Only notable absence" the most dangerous player on the pitch for Bayern. Okay. You keep talking about theory, I look at what happened in reality on the pitch.


what happened in reality was Lewandowski looking disoriented the whole game and missing a sitter .

let's not pretend that Muller is not capable of playing upfront against a high line like Barça's .
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:35 pm

@Harmonica wrote:I'll just leave this here.
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Post by futbol on Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:42 pm

@farfan wrote:
@futbol wrote:
@farfan wrote:i'm not sure why he's insisting with the " 2 midfield " thing as if it was inevitable . Laughing

Bayern could've fielded a 3 man midfield + Robery with the only notable absence being a badly concussed striker who had no business being there in the first place .


"Only notable absence" the most dangerous player on the pitch for Bayern. Okay. You keep talking about theory, I look at what happened in reality on the pitch.


what happened in reality was Lewandowski looking disoriented the whole game and missing a sitter .

let's not pretend that Muller is not capable of playing upfront against a high line like Barça's .


That's the type of player he is, even without a concussion. Laughing

Unless you point me to the games where Müller at 9 did anything of note you won't convince me.

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Post by rwo power on Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:13 pm

@Harmonica wrote:I'll just leave this here.
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH on Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:07 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:I'll just leave this here.
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Ronaldo :bow: :bow:


Best player in the world :bow:
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Post by VivaStPauli on Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:05 am

@Harmonica wrote:I'll just leave this here.

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Was actually planning of saying something like this.
Almost perfect lineup, just massive Pep asshattery.
Though in the defense of Bayern fans here, I think nobody on the forum actually said Pep did well in that match.
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Post by free_cat on Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:44 am

@Adit wrote:First leg was no way even match. Having messi does that to you. I really don't think Barca's defense had any problem that match. On the other hand Bayern's defense got raped in the second half.

I remember the same things said about Bayern in the year we played them. How they are going to become the first team to retain it and how them finishing Bundesliga by December shows they are unstoppable and what not.
Come the business end , guardiola got absolutely outclassed by Ancelotti...both legs. We could've played 500 minutes and they still would not have created a single chance and that is with Bale,modric,Xabi,Di Maria midfield covering the defense.


That's very untrue. Bayern had a couple of very clear chances to score the 0-1 at the Bernabeu. They went on to lose 1-0 and the second leg was a disaster. But had it finished 0-1 or even 1-1, you never know what would have happened.
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Post by Adit on Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:52 pm

What chances are you talking about? Shot outside the box from Robben or Ribbery going on a solo run and shooting for a comfortable iker catch? I don't remember them having any clear cut chances but I remember Ronaldo missing sitter with only Neuer in front the next minute after Benzema scored his goal.... Should have been 2-0 there.

Guardiola got royally screwed by Ancelotti both game. What ever tactics he used were worthless and he even had to bring DM for damage limitation... A far cry from his cryffian philosophy.
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Post by Winter is Coming on Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:22 pm

Pep Guardiola has lifted Bayern Munich to another level since taking over at the club in 2013, according to former France international Zinedine Zidane.

Guardiola's arrival at the Allianz Arena has secured successive Bundesliga titles and the DFB-Pokal, with their attacking brand of football setting them aside from other teams in Germany.

Success in Europe has yet to materialise for the 44-year-old, although his side have reached the last four of the Champions League in each of the previous two campaigns.

Zidane has been impressed with former Barcelona coach Guardiola since his switch from Spain to Germany, and believes the Catalan has led Bayern to a new level.

"What I've noticed is that Pep Guardiola has lifted Bayern to a sensational and fantastic level," he told TZ. "Since he came to Bayern I have not seen a bad game.

"Not only has he brought the maximum out of the players, but he has got 120 per cent [from them].
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Post by Winter is Coming on Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:52 pm

Pep: "It's not possible for a coach to win without quality players, and quality players can win with a shit coach"

Did he really say this Laughing

https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

If you go down he's speaking in German, so I don't know.
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Post by Lucifer on Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:55 pm

Mahatma Pep hmm
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Post by S on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:04 pm

What was so Mahatma in that hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:07 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:Pep: "It's not possible for a coach to win without quality players, and quality players can win with a shit coach"

Did he really say this Laughing

https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

If you go down he's speaking in German, so I don't know.


Yeah that was at a fan club christmas visit the other day.
His usual self-deprecating thing. He's more or less joking around the whole time.

Also was asked why he played Boateng in midfield against Hertha and why he then switched him back with Martinez after a 15 minutes, and he said " After 10 minutes I looked and I wondered 'what the hell why is Boateng playing in midfield'" Laughing

Also claimed the players can't hear him anyway when he's giving instructions during the game, even if he likes to think they can.
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Post by Cruijf on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:10 pm

Ffs I thought Pirlo was Hans Laughing

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Post by Lucifer on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:15 pm

@Cruijf wrote:Ffs I thought Pirlo was Hans Laughing

its confusing for me also. Whenever am going through a thread am like "why the feck Hans is copying my post" Sad
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Post by S on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:23 pm

Btw who's that douchebag in that avatar ? I have no clue who he is.
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Post by Kaladin on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:28 pm

@S wrote:Btw who's that douchebag in that avatar ? I have no clue who he is.


He's probably a bundesfodder legend ala Grafite or Meier (:
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