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Post by Spider Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:30 pm

Yes of course Dani is right , How can he Dive without his barca team mates Rolling Eyes

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Post by daneq Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:44 pm

How many goals has Messi scored in his 2 WC's?

1.

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Post by pdolson Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:01 pm

daneq wrote:How many goals has Messi scored in his 2 WC's?

1.

/thread.

he barely played in 06 and he was very unlucky not to score last year. still had like 3 or 4 assists.

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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:13 pm

pdolson wrote:
daneq wrote:How many goals has Messi scored in his 2 WC's?

1.

/thread.

he barely played in 06 and he was very unlucky not to score last year. still had like 3 or 4 assists.

And Sneijder had 5 goals and 3 assists. (in WC 2010)

And how the hell Messi got Balon d'Or I don't know but Sneijder is nowhere near Messi in terms of a better player yet Sneijder scores and assists way more than Messi
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Post by pdolson Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:33 pm

omarish wrote:
pdolson wrote:
daneq wrote:How many goals has Messi scored in his 2 WC's?

1.

/thread.

he barely played in 06 and he was very unlucky not to score last year. still had like 3 or 4 assists.

And Sneijder had 5 goals and 3 assists. (in WC 2010)

And how the hell Messi got Balon d'Or I don't know but Sneijder is nowhere near Messi in terms of a better player yet Sneijder scores and assists way more than Messi

sneijder doesnt score and assist more goals than messi. in the world cup yeah he did, but normally he doesn't. and yeah i was expecting sneijder or xavi to get it. maybe sneijder didnt because he played in teams that played anti-football and xavi dunno really. messi probably just got it becasue he's messi. despite only winning just la liga he still had a great year. he lots of goals and assists and showed us his amazing skills. still remained the best player in the world in 2010. his wc performance wasn't that bad, everyone was just expecting much more. you just got to think of it as is sneijder and xavi a better player than messi, obivously no. messi still was the european golden boot winner and highest champions league goal scorer.

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Post by Guiltybystander Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:35 pm

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maybe sneijder didnt because he played in teams that played anti-football

Pathetic.

So Inter played anti-football the whole season and the Netherlands parked the bus during the whole WC?

Okay then.

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Post by billionmillion Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:06 pm

2008-Messi is a big game flop (played 40 games proved everyone wrong)
2009-Messi cant score against english teams (played 51 games proved everybod wrong)
2010-Messi never scored in England (played 53 games proved all wrong)
2011-Messi is a NT flop (played 5 games could not prove everybody wrong)

So you want him prove himself in 5-6 games? what is this barcelona argentina comparison. messi didnt score in his last 4 games for barcelona.

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Post by izzy Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:10 pm

billionmillion wrote:2008-Messi is a big game flop (played 40 games proved everyone wrong)
2009-Messi cant score against english teams (played 51 games proved everybod wrong)
2010-Messi never scored in England (played 53 games proved all wrong)
2011-Messi is a NT flop (played 5 games could not prove everybody wrong)

So you want him prove himself in 5-6 games? what is this barcelona argentina comparison. messi didnt score in his last 4 games for barcelona.


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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:33 pm

pdolson wrote:
omarish wrote:
pdolson wrote:
daneq wrote:How many goals has Messi scored in his 2 WC's?

1.

/thread.

he barely played in 06 and he was very unlucky not to score last year. still had like 3 or 4 assists.

And Sneijder had 5 goals and 3 assists. (in WC 2010)

And how the hell Messi got Balon d'Or I don't know but Sneijder is nowhere near Messi in terms of a better player yet Sneijder scores and assists way more than Messi

sneijder doesnt score and assist more goals than messi. in the world cup yeah he did, but normally he doesn't. and yeah i was expecting sneijder or xavi to get it. maybe sneijder didnt because he played in teams that played anti-football and xavi dunno really. messi probably just got it becasue he's messi. despite only winning just la liga he still had a great year. he lots of goals and assists and showed us his amazing skills. still remained the best player in the world in 2010. his wc performance wasn't that bad, everyone was just expecting much more. you just got to think of it as is sneijder and xavi a better player than messi, obivously no. messi still was the european golden boot winner and highest champions league goal scorer.

Messis year 2010
No CL, no copa, only la liga and supercopa

Sneijder
Everything you can possibly win with club, final with NT

Xavi
La Liga and Supercopa, won WC and his passing statistics showed how important he was for the NT

Messi doesn't deserve it. Balon d'Or goes by who was the best that season and Sneijder was clearly better than Iniesta and Messi that season. He was important in winning CL with his club and he was VERY important for the netherlands to get to the final.

I'd have accepted it if Xavi got it, but Messi did it and wtf why did Iniesta even get nominated rofl
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Post by pdolson Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:02 pm

omarish wrote:
pdolson wrote:
omarish wrote:
pdolson wrote:
daneq wrote:How many goals has Messi scored in his 2 WC's?

1.

/thread.

he barely played in 06 and he was very unlucky not to score last year. still had like 3 or 4 assists.

And Sneijder had 5 goals and 3 assists. (in WC 2010)

And how the hell Messi got Balon d'Or I don't know but Sneijder is nowhere near Messi in terms of a better player yet Sneijder scores and assists way more than Messi

sneijder doesnt score and assist more goals than messi. in the world cup yeah he did, but normally he doesn't. and yeah i was expecting sneijder or xavi to get it. maybe sneijder didnt because he played in teams that played anti-football and xavi dunno really. messi probably just got it becasue he's messi. despite only winning just la liga he still had a great year. he lots of goals and assists and showed us his amazing skills. still remained the best player in the world in 2010. his wc performance wasn't that bad, everyone was just expecting much more. you just got to think of it as is sneijder and xavi a better player than messi, obivously no. messi still was the european golden boot winner and highest champions league goal scorer.

Messis year 2010
No CL, no copa, only la liga and supercopa

Sneijder
Everything you can possibly win with club, final with NT

Xavi
La Liga and Supercopa, won WC and his passing statistics showed how important he was for the NT

Messi doesn't deserve it. Balon d'Or goes by who was the best that season and Sneijder was clearly better than Iniesta and Messi that season. He was important in winning CL with his club and he was VERY important for the netherlands to get to the final.

I'd have accepted it if Xavi got it, but Messi did it and wtf why did Iniesta even get nominated rofl

there's more them just them 3 and yeah iniesta shouldn't have been in the top 3 since he was injured half the season.

but there's also:

forlan - golden ball winner, lots of goals with atletico, europa league winner (scored two goals in final and goal that knocked liverpool out in the semis), cope del ray finalist

muller- great season with bayern, golden boot and best young player at wc

david villa - good season scored lots of goals with valencia, carried spain a lot of the time in wc as they played pretty bad for their standard

robben - great season with bayern, carried them in cl (more than sneijder carried inter), holland's second most imporant player at wc

milito - best forward in europe in 2010, nearly won everything at club level (wasnt even top 23 candidate which was bs)

i wanted xavi or sneijder to win. i'm just trying to find reasons why messi had won it.

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Post by RobbyV Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:07 pm

Wait........ so whats Dani Alves excuse for Brazil being crap?
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Post by Guiltybystander Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:14 pm

RobbyV wrote:Wait........ so whats Dani Alves excuse for Brazil being crap?

Ha, you beat me to it.
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Post by Ganso Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:26 pm

dani alves was perfect defensively,but broke plays when going forward.
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Post by M99 Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:53 am

RobbyV wrote:Wait........ so whats Dani Alves excuse for Brazil being crap?

No Kaka, no party.
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Post by valencia_1990 Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:05 pm

messi shoud have just played for spain instead of debuting for argentina at like 17 or 18. who cares about "national pride" and all that. his football career would is more important. spain still would have everything, but with more goals. imagine winning everything and still being 24. then this tedious argument about who is the best would end.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:09 pm

Who cares about 'national pride'? Well, I suppose you never met an Argentine before...
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Post by Messi Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:41 pm

valencia_1990 wrote:messi shoud have just played for spain instead of debuting for argentina at like 17 or 18. who cares about "national pride" and all that. his football career would is more important. spain still would have everything, but with more goals. imagine winning everything and still being 24. then this tedious argument about who is the best would end.
Busqets won almost everything at age 21. Freakin crazy.
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