Messi vs. Maradona @ 24, on national level?

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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:00 pm

Seems to get bit of attention lately, don't know why. Very Happy Which one you think has performed better for Argentina at age of 24. Here are the major tournaments, stats. My take for different competitions is 3-1-0 for Messi:

U20 World Cup

Messi
2005 - 6g 7m, Champions, best player/ best scorer
=
Maradona
1979 - 6g 6m, Champions, best player

Copa America

Messi
2007 - 2g 2a 6m, Runners Up
>
Maradona
1979 - 1g, Group Stage 3th last

Olympic Games

Messi
2006 - 2g 5m, Champions
>
Maradona
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World Cup

Messi
2006 - 1g 1a 3m 124min, 6th
2010 - 0g 4a 5m 450min, 5th
>
Maradona
1982 - 2g 5m 450min, 11th
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Post by the xcx Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:04 pm

Yes, yes Messi is better than Maradona, we all get the picture, now off you go Razz
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Post by Gil Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:05 pm

Pretty pointless thread, no?
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:07 pm

Booooooooooooooooooooring, getting old.

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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:07 pm

Gil wrote:Pretty pointless thread, no?
Well actually this was for Seppuku and other new to the football, who probably has only seen Maradona's two goals against England from youtube, and say Messi hasn't performed for Argentina as good, when actually it just the opposite.


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Post by Doc Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:08 pm

More excuses...
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:09 pm

Doc wrote:More excuses...
On what?
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:09 pm

BUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHU.


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Post by Lord Awesome Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:12 pm

How about we rate them after Messi's done?

Why?

Replce National Level at 24 with Cub Level at 24.
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Post by Khaled Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:13 pm

LoOOOoL

its really funny how Haters start acting when they get owned Smile


Messi has long way to go just turned 24 & he can still play alot of matches for argentina & prove he is gd as NT like he is @ Barca!
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Post by pUsHa Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:14 pm

Messi is a scrub

end of thread /

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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:15 pm

scratch
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Post by Yeezus Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:16 pm

It's a shame because for Argentina, Messi has to play as Xaviniesta, and not as Messi... Mad

BATISTA PLAY PASTORE FFS

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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:28 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:How about we rate them after Messi's done?
I'm too anxious for just that. Very Happy

Why?

Replce National Level at 24 with Cub Level at 24.
? scratch
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:28 pm

I am not a Messi hater, but this is a complete non-discussion. What do you achieve with this? Yes, numbers-wise Messi is more successful at an arbitrary age than Maradona for his national team. Go bake a cake now?
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:30 pm

Guiltybystander wrote:I am not a Messi hater, but this is a complete non-discussion. What do you achieve with this? Yes, numbers-wise Messi is more successful at an arbitrary age than Maradona for his national team. Go bake a cake now?
So, you are me hater? Is that what you are saying? Very Happy
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:32 pm

messi is still poor man's maradona
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Post by Khaled Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:33 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:messi is still poor man's maradona

Haters Gonna hate..

i'm sure if he scored a hattrick against Colombia next match..
Haters will always find some thing to discredit him LoOOOoL Smile
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Post by Ganso Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:34 pm

safe to say,he wont score a hat trick against Colombia
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:35 pm

Khaledbarca wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:messi is still poor man's maradona

Haters Gonna hate..

i'm sure if he scored a hattrick against Colombia next match..
Haters will always find some thing to discredit him LoOOOoL Smile

<target acquired>

butthurtness discorvered

u mad?
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Post by Uruguay Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:47 pm

If Argentina drew with Bolivia, i doubt they will beat Colombia.
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:48 pm

jiopsi wrote:
Guiltybystander wrote:I am not a Messi hater, but this is a complete non-discussion. What do you achieve with this? Yes, numbers-wise Messi is more successful at an arbitrary age than Maradona for his national team. Go bake a cake now?
So, you are me hater? Is that what you are saying? Very Happy

And now in a comprehensible sentence please?
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Post by Seppuku Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:52 pm

Messi is inevitably losing out according to the logic of the argument:

Maradona's age when he won the WC (and Golden Ball): 26??

Messi possible age of winning the WC (highly unlikely): 27/28??

So yeah, a comparison doomed from the get-go.

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Post by Gil Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:56 pm

Uruguay wrote:If Argentina drew with Bolivia, i doubt they will beat Colombia.

Football doesn't work that way.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:58 pm

Guiltybystander wrote:And now in a comprehensible sentence please?
Association is a skill, and a bitch sometimes, obviously.
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