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Post by juventus101 Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:15 am

My question for everyone is why is everone seemingly forgetting about paraguay in the copa america. Last time they played both brazil and argentina, they beat them both. They also had a vey strong world cup, and with a frontljne with Cardozo, Valdes, and an on fire Barrios after winning the bundesliga and scoring around 20 goals last season. They may not have the big names that argentina, brazil, or even uruguay have, but their extremely good and I think everyone should watch out for them.
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Post by barca 2011 Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:37 am

I still think Colombia are the true dark horses, but Paraguay and Chile (both had a respectable WC) are close behind. Can't wait for tomorrow!!!!
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Post by Vibe Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:16 am

Chile IMO.
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Post by Omniscient Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:18 am

It's interesting, because there are several 'dark horses' in the Copa. Everyone only talks about Arg/Brazil/Uruguay, but a few other teams like Paraguay and Chile have really solid squads with a couple of big-name players as well.

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Post by 7amood11 Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:41 am

I expect Paraguay to make the semis...

But don't be surprised when Venezuela qualify from their group, they're good, especially with Orozco...
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Post by M99 Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:44 am

Colombia are the dark horses. They got quality players like Falcao, Zapata, Rodagellla and Yepes. I expect them to make the semis.
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Post by barca 2011 Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:42 am

milanista99 wrote:Colombia are the dark horses. They got quality players like Falcao, Zapata, Rodagellla and Yepes. I expect them to make the semis.
That would be awesome, but the least I expect is that we make it out of the group, which we didn't do in '07. But I can see Colombia getting further than expected, especially if some of the stronger teams face off in the QFs. It's just a shame that Ospina couldn't make it because of his injury in training. That sucks so bad.
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Post by Catracho Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:40 pm

Colombia vs. Brazil final. I'm calling it.

Then they still have some players that weren't called up that could've made a difference like Giovanni Moreno, and lets not get into the James Rodriguez debate. Edwin Cardona Cool
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:49 pm

Chile - Uruguay final, lol.
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Post by Uruguay Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:23 pm

I agree with Guiltybystander. Look at what Argentina was yesterday, a lot of players with a lot of propaganda, but do not work good as a team. Tevez selfish, Di Maria selfish, everybody doing an awful work, and as a result making Messi not shine.

Chile, Paraguay, Colombia or Uruguay win this cup.
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Post by Swanhends Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:25 pm

Unless Larissa Riquelme is going to get her picture taken cheering on her team I'm not that interested
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Post by Zamuro Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:37 pm

7amood11 wrote:I expect Paraguay to make the semis...

But don't be surprised when Venezuela qualify from their group, they're good, especially with Orozco...

Quote for truth :coffee:

If only our manager knew that...

¡QUE SAQUEN AL IDIOTA DE FARÍAS!
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Post by Ganso Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:39 pm

Summing it up:South American teams are underrated.Argentina couldnt even beat bolivia in La Plata ffs
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Post by juventus101 Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:43 pm

Paraguay - Uruguay final in my opinion, with Paraguay winning it.

Also, just checked and itsays on wiki that cardozo is not in the paraguay squad. I dont understand that at all, and its a big loss, but I think paraguay can still do fine, especially with Barrios being on fire after winning the bundesliga this last season.
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Post by Zamuro Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:51 pm

Chile has Vidal, Isla, Sanchez, Suazo

Paraguay has Santa Cruz, Barrios, Valdez

Venezuela has Rondón, Orozco, Miku, Ríncon

Colombia has Falcao, Yepes, Zapata

Ecuador has Valencia, Caicedo

Even Peru and Bolivia who do not have a pretty talented squad got a desire to win and a good chemistry that will help them fight against any team.

Also, let's not forget the power houses like Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay

The Copa America is full of quality.
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Post by Catracho Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:03 pm

I think Colombia has a little bit more "umph" though.

Cuardado, Aguilar, Guarin, Ramos, Rodallega, Moreno

can't wait to see them today.

sidenote: watch Joel Campbell of Costa Rica. next Paulo Wanchope.
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Post by Zamuro Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:16 pm

Catracho wrote:I think Colombia has a little bit more "umph" though.

Cuardado, Aguilar, Guarin, Ramos, Rodallega, Moreno

can't wait to see them today.

sidenote: watch Joel Campbell of Costa Rica. next Paulo Wanchope.

Oh well, I was just pointing the players that came to my mind. I know Colombia got a lot of quality. Can't wait to see them in a few hours.
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Post by Catracho Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:20 pm

I heard Chavez was still alive.. bummer Venezolanos.
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Post by Zamuro Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:23 pm

Catracho wrote:I heard Chavez was still alive.. bummer Venezolanos.

Yes, pretty sad. I am not one who wishes any ill thoughts to anyone but Chavez has done so much harm to my family and my country that it has made me think about it sometimes. I think that says enough.
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Post by Uruguay Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:59 pm

I share your thoughts Mauro, but i felt bad for him in that press conference where he announced he had cancer.

Venezuela, like Bolivia, could be one of the richest countries of the world... but don't lose the hope, some day, someone will put Venezuela in the right track.
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:04 pm

All dictators are slowly disappearing - either dying or chased away by angry mobs.

Nice.
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Post by 7amood11 Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:00 pm

Guiltybystander wrote:All dictators are slowly disappearing - either dying or chased away by angry mobs.

Nice.

Feels wonderful...
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:44 pm

3 favorties
3 dark horses
4 good teams

Most even competition in the world?
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Post by Catracho Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:15 am

quite possibly. Colombia should've put away more.

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Post by juventus101 Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:22 am

I think the Copa America is 3rd in most competitive international competitions, only after the World Cup and Euro. In the Copa, any of Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, and even Chile or Colombia have chances to win it. But in the Euro any of Germany, Spain, Italy, France, England, Holland, or even Portugal can all have a chance of winning it. The Copa is above the Asian Cup though, as well as the Gold Cup which is basically USA versus Mexico, and the ACON as well, which is basically between Egypt and the Ivory Coast. But the WC is #1 obviously cause its all these teams in one.
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