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Post by The Sanchez Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:48 am

This may push the boundaries for some but mostly for those who have watched football for a long peroid of time, the top 20 greatest of all time players, past to present.
This was a list from an analyst of the game that I know:
1. Pele
2. Maradona
3. Cruyff
4. Di Stefano
5. Beckenbeaur
6. Platini
7. Garrincha
8. Messi
9. Zidane
10. Puskas
11. Meazza
12. Baresi
13. Eusebio
14. Didi
15. Best
16. Carlos Alberto
17. Ronaldo
18. Neeskens
19. Muller
20. Van Basten

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Post by Forza Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:58 am

Maldini needs to be in there, above Baresi too.
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Post by Kick Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 am

Personally, it is way to difficult to order them so I will not try.
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Post by juventus101 Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:47 am

Baggio, Scirea, and Maldini should all be there. Baggio definitely above Baresi too. Baggios well known to Italians to be the best italian player of all time. He should be in the Top 5-7. Mullet should also be wayyyyyy higher. I think Matthaus also probably deserves to be there.
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Post by arjun.123 Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:04 am

I will be honest.......I haven't actually watched Zidane but can't help thinking Ronaldo should be better than him.
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Post by jibers Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:45 am

Greatest =/= best. These lists are contrived. Stupid pointless debates. How do you compare Maradona to Di Stefano in greatness? Di Stefano won more than Maradona would ever have dreamed of. This all time lists are just laughable.
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Post by LeBéninois Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:28 am

There are so many greats players, really hard to make a top 20.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:06 am

The FIFA player of the century list top 20:

1 Pelé Brazil 1705
2 Johan Cruijff Netherlands 1303
3 Franz Beckenbauer Germany 1228
4 Alfredo di Stéfano Argentina 1215
5 Diego Maradona Argentina 1214
6 Ferenc Puskás Hungary 810
7 Michel Platini France 722
8 Garrincha Brazil 624
9 Eusébio Portugal 544
10 Bobby Charlton England 508
11 Stanley Matthews England 368
12 Marco van Basten Netherlands 315
13 Gerd Müller Germany 310
14 Zico Brazil 207
15 Lothar Matthäus Germany 202
16 George Best Northern Ireland 187
17 Juan Alberto Schiaffino Uruguay Italy 158
18 Ruud Gullit Netherlands 119
19 Didí Brazil 116
20 Gianni Rivera Italy 116

Add Messi take out Rivera and that's basically it to update it to the 21st century. Maybe a few other small modifications, Meazza sounds like a name that should be there for instance as the best Italian of all time, but it's all highly subjective and not worth fighting about. Perhaps Yashin as well for some GK appreciation.
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Post by juventus101 Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:09 am

When was that list made? Cuz its pretty terrible in my opinion.
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Post by The Sanchez Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:56 am

A pretty good list. Maybe Baggio and definately Messi but a good list!
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Post by CrazyBoy Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:31 am

The Sanchez wrote:This may push the boundaries for some but mostly for those who have watched football for a long peroid of time, the top 20 greatest of all time players, past to present.
This was a list from an analyst of the game that I know:
1. Pele
2. Maradona
3. Cruyff
4. Di Stefano
5. Beckenbeaur
6. Platini
7. Garrincha
8. Messi
9. Zidane
10. Puskas
11. Meazza
12. Baresi
13. Eusebio
14. Didi
15. Best
16. Carlos Alberto
17. Ronaldo
18. Neeskens
19. Muller
20. Van Basten



no way Neeskens or Carlos Alberto be anywhere 20 greatest ever list.

Carlos Alberto isnt even the greatest Brazilian RB let alone a top 20 of all time. Neeskens is a wtf inclusion. And any top 10 list without Zico is meh, and here we have a top 20 list without him.
Ranking will always be disputed for example Meazza is ranked too high here. Defo the greatest(not best) Italian attacker but if he is there so should be Moreno another pre war great, whose La Maquaina(River Plate of that time) played a fluid total football attacking game way before Dutch's Clockwatch Orange, many Argentines from that time called him better than Di Stefano.
Maldini deserves to be there due to his consistent brilliance and so Matthaus. And Bobby Charlton should be there as well, greatest ever English player, everything to be won there.
Good list but some weird choices or rank placement. Muller too is underanked as well. He was the man whose goals brought both his club and his country great success. It is even said that Bayern Munich what it is today is because of him.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:07 pm

juventus101 wrote:When was that list made? Cuz its pretty terrible in my opinion.
I believe in 2000, given that it's the player of the century award.
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Post by juventus101 Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:33 pm

In no order, i think the Top 20 should be:

Pele
Maradona
Garrincha
Ronaldo
Baggio
Zidane
Cruyff
Di Stefano
Beckenbauer
Muller
Baresi
Scirea
Maldini
Matthau
Platini
Zico
Ronaldo
Eusebio
Van Basten
Messi

I know theres no Best or Puskas, but i didnt include them.because i literally have seen nothing of them, not even highlight videos. They could be in there though.


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Post by Don Carlo Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:39 pm

Its too hard to put in an exact order but these are the best ones I`ve seen footage of, I know I`m going to miss someone out but that`s the way it goes.....

Pele
Cruyff
Maradona
Beckenbauer
Van Basten
Best
Zidane
Messi
Platini
Zico
Maldini
Baresi
Garrincha
Johnstone (Jinky)
Dalglish
Charlton
Mathaus
Muller
Ronaldo (Bra)
Gullit
Baggio

That`s 21 but that`s my list.
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Post by Don Carlo Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:42 pm

arjun.123 wrote:I will be honest.......I haven't actually watched Zidane but can't help thinking Ronaldo should be better than him.

I will be honest....... if you had watched Zidane play, you would probably know that he should be above Ronaldo (both of them)
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Post by RealGunner Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:45 pm

Don't think Messi should be in it Carlo ?
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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:09 pm

I dont think Zidane is above Ronaldo. Well, I can see the arguement why he is...he beats him when you talk about length of time performing at peak. Ronaldo peak was only like 4 years at most.

However, Zidane himself thinks Ronaldo is better.
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Post by The Sanchez Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:21 am

juventus101 wrote:In no order, i think the Top 20 should be:

Pele
Maradona
Garrincha
Ronaldo
Baggio
Zidane
Cruyff
Di Stefano
Beckenbauer
Muller
Baresi
Scirea
Maldini
Matthau
Platini
Zico
Ronaldo
Eusebio
Van Basten
Messi

I know theres no Best or Puskas, but i didnt include them.because i literally have seen nothing of them, not even highlight videos. They could be in there though.



wtf is C.Ronaldo in there for? Was lucky to have alot of videos of Puskas and Best and well they definately should be in there!
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Post by juventus101 Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:47 am

I meant brazilian ronaldo. Not cristiano.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:57 pm

Yeah but you got Ronaldo twice. Even if its the second one, I assume it is, you have him above Messi, Van Bastan and Eusiabo..which is utterly laughable.

edit: I see you say no order. Still its not correct, Cristiano is not a top 20 player all time.
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Post by juventus101 Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:39 pm

Ah, didnt mean to put him twice then. I didnt mean Cristiano Ronaldo. I meant brazilian Ronaldo. Didnt realize i put his name twice.

Edit: just looked back on my list. I meant Romario and Ronaldo. Not Ronaldo twice.
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Post by Don Carlo Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:19 pm

RealGunner wrote:Don't think Messi should be in it Carlo ?

Messi is in my list.
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Post by Don Carlo Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:27 pm

The Franchise wrote:I dont think Zidane is above Ronaldo. Well, I can see the arguement why he is...he beats him when you talk about length of time performing at peak. Ronaldo peak was only like 4 years at most.

However, Zidane himself thinks Ronaldo is better.

Ronaldo says likewise about Zidane, they are friends, they are just being humble, they both say each other is the best they`ve ever played with.

Most of their Madrid team mates choose Zidane as the best, they are different types of player though that cannot do what each other does best, Zidane separates himself from Ronaldo though by achieving more in his career, playing at the top level for longer and outperforming R9 more often than not both in the same team AND playing vs each other in the biggest of games.

In all honesty, Ronaldo`s case to be ahead of Zidane is extremely weak, Zidane was the best player of that generation, no doubt at all.
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Post by the xcx Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:39 pm

I think people dont really appreciate forwards here..

Oftenly they get overshadowed by defenders or midfielders which is a disgraceful.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:18 pm

Don Carlo wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Don't think Messi should be in it Carlo ?

Messi is in my list.

My eyes deceiving me lol. Sorry, must be the age catching up
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