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Post by Clockwork Orange Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:57 pm

"Pep said that he would only leave when we were no longer responding to him," Alves said in an interview with Le Buteur.

"We did not respond to him on the field as he would have liked and this is why the players feel responsible for his departure."

The Brazil international also spoke of his highly-rated compatriot Neymar and spoke of the differences between him and Blaugrana team-mate Lionel Messi.

"The difference between Messi and Neymar is that Messi plays in Europe, while Neymar is still in Brazil," he continued.

"Even without tactical discpline, what is important for a team is having players with maturity and a sense of responsibility.

"To further his career, Neymar must come to Europe and preferably to Barcelona."

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/11/16/3531156/alves-barcelona-players-feel-responsible-for-guardiola-exit?source=breakingnews
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Post by FalcaoPunch Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:58 pm

I like your topics sir
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Post by Red Alert Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:03 am

ColoJunior wrote:I like your topics sir

I personally can't wait until he starts threads on Madrid, can you?
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Post by The Franchise Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:30 am

Dani Alves merely is showing the loss for a great coach and someone all the team loves. Its easy to blame yourself in such a situation, but I dont think its true. I think Pep just got tired.

The title doesnt really ring true either, your playing with words. He didnt say they are responsible, he said they FEEL responsible. Difference there.
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Post by FalcaoPunch Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:19 am

His threads about Madrid canno be any worse than the one Huntsmans made. So I think we're good.
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Post by Dutti Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:26 am

Actually.... that is the original title of the article
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Post by peerless Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:16 am

Dutti wrote:Actually.... that is the original title of the article

Sensationalism at its finest.
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Post by la bestia negra Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:40 am

about huntsman isnt he a millan fan or something now
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Post by harhar11 Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:10 pm

Ninis wrote:we all know mourinho was the reason he left, no need to overthink it

I know that you and the rest of the madrid fans would like it to be true but it isnt...

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Post by The Sanchez Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:45 pm

Ninis wrote:we all know mourinho was the reason he left, no need to overthink it

Really? You really want to go there?

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Post by Onyx Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:01 pm

Messi and Neymar?

Would they be able to coexist? hmm

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Post by Red Alert Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:33 am

Guardiola: "I left Barcelona because I couldn't motivate the players anymore" "Saddest memory is the lost leg against Chelsea. We were much better than them".
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:09 am

Guardiola wrote:[The Chelsea defeat] was a moment of great sadness -- as if suddenly someone had switched the floodlights off. We were better than our opponents but in the second leg conceded an unnecessary goal and the next thing we knew we were out of the competition.

That was a very hard defeat for me. I had the feeling that I was no longer able to reach my team, and if you can no longer reach your players then it is time to move on.

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Post by futbol Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:02 am

That is such a poor justification tbh. The players showed so much heart and desire in that Chelsea game that despite the loss the whole stadium applauded their efforts. Even a blind man could see that it was one of unluckiest games of all time and nothing about "not reaching the players anymore".

Let's call it as it is. Mourinho's Madrid was getting stronger and stronger, both in the direct encounters as well as in the league, as evident by their 100 point campaign and victory in Camp Nou. Pep didn't want to compete against that another year and chose to cruise the most one-sided league in Europe instead. If he stayed another season, reclaimed the title and then left I wouldn't have a problem with it. SAF didn't retire after City won the title. He reclaimed the title first and then left like a true champion. Pep simply chickened out when things started getting tough. The pos.

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Post by rwo power Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:18 am

Actually I'm a bit fascinated that Pep Guardiola only signed 1-year-contracts as Barcelona manager, while he signed a full 3-year-contract at Bayern and there are now even rumours of him extending that.

So it does sound as if he always made sure that he could jump the ship easily at Barca, which does convey the impression that he wasn't 100 percent content there in the first place.
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Post by Onyx Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:26 am

Maybe he signed 1 year contracts at Barca so he could leave after he got bored/tired/wanted a break etc. Due to that, he realised that 3-4 years is an ideal length of time at a club, so he signed a 3 year contract with Bayern.

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Post by che Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:43 am

rwo power wrote:Actually I'm a bit fascinated that Pep Guardiola only signed 1-year-contracts as Barcelona manager, while he signed a full 3-year-contract at Bayern and there are now even rumours of him extending that.

it's an incredibly stressful job, probably why he took a "gap yah" instead of going to another team straight away... i mean look at the comparison pics before and after barcelona

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with bayern basically all you have to do to win the league is not shit the bed
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Post by BarcaLearning Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:08 am

Fußball wrote:That is such a poor justification tbh. The players showed so much heart and desire in that Chelsea game that despite the loss the whole stadium applauded their efforts. Even a blind man could see that it was one of unluckiest games of all time and nothing about "not reaching the players anymore".

Let's call it as it is. Mourinho's Madrid was getting stronger and stronger, both in the direct encounters as well as in the league, as evident by their 100 point campaign and victory in Camp Nou. Pep didn't want to compete against that another year and chose to cruise the most one-sided league in Europe instead. If he stayed another season, reclaimed the title and then left I wouldn't have a problem with it. SAF didn't retire after City won the title. He reclaimed the title first and then left like a true champion. Pep simply chickened out when things started getting tough. The pos.

I also felt that when news broke that he decided to leave also. Vs Mou towards the end and even winning the European Supercup with Bayern vs Chelsea I thought he was out done by Mou since Mous squad was much weaker and it went to penalties. I dont know, it would have been nice for him to stay longer to prove otherwise, but at the end I dont want to blame him or ask too much of him.... not everyone is perfect, same goes with Pep.
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Post by Winter is Coming Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:22 am

BarcaLearning wrote:I also felt that when news broke that he decided to leave also. Vs Mou towards the end and even winning the European Supercup with Bayern vs Chelsea I thought he was out done by Mou since Mous squad was much weaker and it went to penalties. I dont know, it would have been nice for him to stay longer to prove otherwise, but at the end I dont want to blame him or ask too much of him.... not everyone is perfect, same goes with Pep.

Outdone? If it wasn't for Bayern finishing they would've blown Chelsea out of the water (they had 19 shots on target or something) and please, Chelsea with or without Mou have always been a problem to Barcelona and Bayern. Pep 9 wins to Mou 3 wins. If Tito from the hospital bed reclaimed the title don't think Pep would've had a problem.

rwo power wrote:Actually I'm a bit fascinated that Pep Guardiola only signed 1-year-contracts as Barcelona manager, while he signed a full 3-year-contract at Bayern and there are now even rumours of him extending that.

So it does sound as if he always made sure that he could jump the ship easily at Barca, which does convey the impression that he wasn't 100 percent content there in the first place.

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Post by futbol Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:02 am

Winter is Coming wrote:If Tito from the hospital bed reclaimed the title don't think Pep would've had a problem.

I doubt Guardiola was foreseeing Real Madrid's meltdown in 12/13 at the time. When Guardiola was calling it a day Madrid were playing a 100 point season and only looking to build on that, improve and get stronger. Not implode with that "Saint Leaker, Adan > Casillas, Ronaldo thinks he knows it all, Ramos wearing an Özil shirt beneath his own" dressing room nonsense.

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Post by Winter is Coming Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:13 am

When Mou is in charge those kind of stuff are bound to happen in his third year, everyone knows that :coffee:
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Post by futbol Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:16 am

I don't have a comeback to that. You win. hmm

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