Pescara - Juventus

Lynx100 wrote:
Youre reasoning makes as much sense as a monkey offering an opinion on football.... matter of fact.. want a banana?

no need to get nasty SON!

Lynx100 wrote:

Luca wrote:The common theme in high scoring games is bad defending, rarely bad goalkeeping


Now, I'm not saying he is blameless but expecting him to make those saves or put it on him to adjust to those kinds of shot is absolutely mind boggling

It's either he gives up the near post or the far post

(Let me spoon feed you a little more, if he gives up the the near post it's an easier goal because it's a shorter distance hence NEAR post)

I don't need to indulge such claims lmao

Weaknesses could be positioning, distributing the ball, gathering the ball in crosses but getting beaten like that a weakness.... come on man

hahaha Spoon feeding? Dont kid yourself. Youre reasoning makes as much sense as a monkey offering an opinion on football.... matter of fact.. want a banana?

If you knew anything about football you would realise that the reason he was beaten was because of his POSITIONING or lack of rater! He doesnt have to give us the near post. He uses his legs for the near post like every keeper is taught to do when the ball is shot low across his body to allow him to cover the angle to prevent a goal into the far corner. He was camped far too close to his near post to allow himself to fully cover his far post. His legs werent fully extended when he dove showing that he still had probably 30cm of coverage available. 30cm extra would almost always cut down the angle by atleast 50% giving the striker about 10cm in which he could place the ball. Noone is expecting him to save all those monkey boy - i never said that. I said his positioning was piss poor. And I maintain that. His body was nowhere near fully extended to offer his team the best shot of preventing a goal. It was absolute amateur keeping.

Now would buffon have saved those - maybe some of them, yes. probably not all of them though because at the end of the day, they were quality quality finishes.

But does that mean the goalie absolutely needs to improve his positioning? 100% yes.

Yeah, my reasoning skills

What's more likely, 6 extremely well taken goal
Or a 'critical weakness' that was exposed like were talking about infiltrating the death star lmao

Now, I have never been one of those people who think that because they've played the sport and watch that they can make a better opinion but this is a perfect example of where I'm mistaken

The goalkeeper has two options on that angle:
1. He strays from the near post and has a better chance at covering the far post but in the process leaves the near post open which is the easier goal to score
2. He covers the near post and forces the attacker to take the more difficult shot

Each time the goalkeeper took the second option and he was correct. It was just extremely tidy finishing

And the way you're responding to me and the way you reacted to the goal.com post (it was a joke by the way, no need to wet your pants) just reinforces my point that I am fighting the losing battle against stupidity

Here's a list of other potential goalkeeping weaknesses to respond to:
-Powerful shots into the top corner of the net from inside the penalty area
-Diving headers from the 6 yard box
-Curling efforts into the top corner from the opposite side

'Every goal is just one weakness of the goalkeeper exposed by a brilliant attacker'
- said no one, ever

'It was not so much that he took a good shot, it is that the goalkeeper made a blunder by not being able to save the 100km rocket that was perfectly placed into the bottom corner'

Everyone I missed the entire game ik the scores 6-1 please give me a recap.

juveman17 wrote:Everyone I missed the entire game ik the scores 6-1 please give me a recap.

If you ask lynx: the goalkeeper for Pescara displayed immense weaknesses that Juventus exploited

If you ask the general, reasonable population they'll tell you:
Juventus quickly went 2 goals up, Pescara struck back and it briefly looked like we were to have a game on our hands. However, Juventus really flexed and rounded out the first half with another 3 goals. Quagliarella added one more after the break

There were just two different classes of teams on the field tonight
I'm assuming you saw the goals, if you did not:
Vidal bottom left corner from right side

Vidal, Quagliarella (2), Giovinco all had very well taken low shots to the goalkeeper's lower right hand corner, tidy finishing

Asamoah and Quagliarella's third were both bicycle kicks

Goals:

Quag Daddy Luca I respect you for sticking with him through thick and thin

juveman17 wrote:Quag Daddy Luca I respect you for sticking with him through thick and thin

Always had faith in him
Happy to see him score

Luca wrote:

juveman17 wrote:Quag Daddy Luca I respect you for sticking with him through thick and thin

Always had faith in him
Happy to see him score

Hopefully we repay him and make him a constant starter

Quags is our best Striker. Let's not be fooled we played against team who plays offensive football and we used our chances well. Giovinco currently is getting better but currently he is nothing but a super sub. IF we buy llorente in January I want us to change to 4-3-3.

We didn't get sloppy or dropped the intesity after 1-0 and 2-0 they just made 2 good actions on a counter attack one from FK and the other one from corner

Juve

WOW! Absolute height of arrogance shown here by Lynx as the insult on Luca's reasoning skills were the epitome of classlessness and disgust.

Fact is Lynx, no matter what your pop manual refers to it obviously doesn't mention that the Goalkeeper's has to be equivocal to the CB's position. 60-40? Where did you get this stat from? The same coaching manual made by has been managers? Centreback has far more responsibility on their shoulders since their positioning and decisions effect the outcome on the goalkeeper's own decisions. I understand you are trying to be a modern manager in your hilarious coaching analysis but the simple fact is the bottom-right hand goals were all a product of piss poor CB positioning but also very clinical finishing. The goalkeeper has yards of other space to worry about as if he tried to pre-meditate the bottom right hand corner again, he should just change his name to Zdjko Kalac.

Its THAT simple.

But rambling on arbitrary analysis which makes little sense.

Luca is spot on in every single count. There's a 2nd opinion.

And Quagliarella has been Juve's best striker in a long time as I never really listened to most Juve fans who write of their players without a hesitations heart beat. Vucinic and Quags should start automatically with Vuci supporting Quags. Matri doesn't have it anymore and Bentner is a pathetically average player. Knowing clueless Alessio he won't do that now.

I just hope Quags can keep up his form unlike the last time.. Scored against Chelsea then scored a double, but after that he was totally invisible for matches.

Going by that logic the seasons b4 last one ( under Zach and Del Neri) Buffon was shit :/

jesus..he really is just a kid

Adrian0911 wrote:jesus..he really is just a kid

Pescara always play kids and they are team who plays offensive football that's really great thing and something to be respected .... We need more of that mentality ( not for us to score 6 goals every game lol but to make the league better )

DeviAngel wrote:

Adrian0911 wrote:jesus..he really is just a kid

Pescara always play kids and they are team who plays offensive football that's really great thing and something to be respected .... We need more of that mentality ( not for us to score 6 goals every game lol but to make the league better )

i agree of course...

...it's just that....it's weird seeing players on the field that are younger than me at this level...i just realized that now

dronte wrote:I just hope Quags can keep up his form unlike the last time.. Scored against Chelsea then scored a double, but after that he was totally invisible for matches.

Check your memory, he failed to score in one game and then he was dropped for several games (playing odd substitute minutes here and there)
It's unfair to use him in that way, especially given the chances that players ahead of him were

Arquitecto wrote:WOW! Absolute height of arrogance shown here by Lynx as the insult on Luca's reasoning skills were the epitome of classlessness and disgust.

Fact is Lynx, no matter what your pop manual refers to it obviously doesn't mention that the Goalkeeper's has to be equivocal to the CB's position. 60-40? Where did you get this stat from? The same coaching manual made by has been managers? Centreback has far more responsibility on their shoulders since their positioning and decisions effect the outcome on the goalkeeper's own decisions. I understand you are trying to be a modern manager in your hilarious coaching analysis but the simple fact is the bottom-right hand goals were all a product of piss poor CB positioning but also very clinical finishing. The goalkeeper has yards of other space to worry about as if he tried to pre-meditate the bottom right hand corner again, he should just change his name to Zdjko Kalac.

Its THAT simple.

But rambling on arbitrary analysis which makes little sense.

Luca is spot on in every single count. There's a 2nd opinion.

And Quagliarella has been Juve's best striker in a long time as I never really listened to most Juve fans who write of their players without a hesitations heart beat. Vucinic and Quags should start automatically with Vuci supporting Quags. Matri doesn't have it anymore and Bentner is a pathetically average player. Knowing clueless Alessio he won't do that now.

Thanks for the support arq
It's as simple as what you said, CBs giving forwards that kind of shooting opportunity + great shots = little the goalkeeper can do

Inter lost to Atalanta

dronte wrote:Inter lost to Atalanta

I said it last week

dronte wrote:Inter lost to Atalanta

while i makes me smile....i makes me feel worse.

how the hell did we lose against them???
points wise, that victory meant nothing for them...killed our unbeaten streak for nothing

Adrian0911 wrote:

dronte wrote:Inter lost to Atalanta

while i makes me smile....i makes me feel worse.

how the hell did we lose against them???
points wise, that victory meant nothing for them...killed our unbeaten streak for nothing

Might be a good thing, Juventus was getting too comfortable in the league
It is good to understand that we can always lose a game, it fires you up for the next one

Loss to Inter, demolish the next two teams played
In perspective it might be just the boost this team needed

Luca wrote:

Adrian0911 wrote:

dronte wrote:Inter lost to Atalanta

while i makes me smile....i makes me feel worse.

how the hell did we lose against them???
points wise, that victory meant nothing for them...killed our unbeaten streak for nothing

Might be a good thing, Juventus was getting too comfortable in the league
It is good to understand that we can always lose a game, it fires you up for the next one

Loss to Inter, demolish the next two teams played
In perspective it might be just the boost this team needed

you are right.
that loss might actually be key to our qualification into the knock-outs..and winning the title.
it brought back last year's determination and grit.

that doesn't mean i have to like it.