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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon May 13, 2013 6:13 pm

I do remember his best days, yet that still wasnt Messi's level. if you tell me that Ronaldinho was at that level, completely agree tho.

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Post by Adit Mon May 13, 2013 6:37 pm

Agreed. Kaka was a great dribbler but was not as consistent as Messi.

Messi also is Miles miles better playmaker/passer than Kaka was at his prime.
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Post by Valkyrja Mon May 13, 2013 7:31 pm

Kaka was the best counter attacking player I've ever seen, along with Ronaldo. He could take the ball and run all over the field.

Messi isn't a better playmaker than prime Kaka IMO, the Brazilian had amazing vision, and a great final pass.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon May 13, 2013 7:34 pm

I dont think people get how insane Messi is, even now
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Post by Adit Mon May 13, 2013 7:40 pm

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Messi isn't a better playmaker than prime Kaka IMO, the Brazilian had amazing vision, and a great final pass.

Come on now...Messi is miles superior playamaker and it is not even close.

Why cant kaka make a final pass now to save his life btw? you dont lose technique with age...you lose dribbling with lack of pace but not passing technique.
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Post by Zealous Tue May 14, 2013 2:10 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:I dont think people get how insane Messi is, even now

He didn't look so amazing when Ribery put him on his ass. Messi is an elite player for sure but he's imo a cog in a machine, a pretty big talented cog but still one that benefits from an environment that allows him to flourish.
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Post by sportsczy Tue May 14, 2013 6:23 am

Messi is no cog. He's one of the top 5 players of all time. Kaka is not even top 20. Great player... But kaka was close to cr7 in his prime (and likely better) than Messi. Kaka just didn't sustain his peak very long.
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Post by SuperMAG Tue May 14, 2013 9:29 am

So its ok to sign kaka for 60m but not neymar for 80 who is like 7 years younger then when we signed kaka, has terrific potential.

And who the hell said we are getting bale for 50m, he isnt coming here for less then 70-80m.

And for the record i never said i won't mind bale. But i prefer neymar, he is more of a la liga / madrid type of player then bale.

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Post by Valkyrja Tue May 14, 2013 12:09 pm

Neymar's chances to fail are higher than Kaka's ever were. Kaka was already a balon d'or winner.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue May 14, 2013 12:12 pm

SuperMAG wrote:So its ok to sign kaka for 60m but not neymar for 80 who is like 7 years younger then when we signed kaka, has terrific potential.

And who the hell said we are getting bale for 50m, he isnt coming here for less then 70-80m.

And for the record i never said i won't mind bale. But i prefer neymar, he is more of a la liga / madrid type of player then bale.

the reason kaka cost 60m in the the first place is because he had raised his game to the point of being one of the top3 players in world football, winning a CL in the process, leagues in italy all while putting some great sides like Utd on their asses. he should have stayed away because of his injury, but that's something else enterely.

Neymar costing over 70m is the result of an inflated transfer market, Nike, Google (youtube) and people thinking that he is going to become one of the best of his era at some point, no one can tell you when, but sometimes....

please dont compare things that arent comparable, Kaka earned his status on the pitch at the biggest level, neymar hasnt done that. there is no guarantee that neymar will be "worth" that much. football has seen greater talents falling out badly lol
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Post by Onyx Tue May 14, 2013 12:44 pm

Chelsea are casting a watchful eye on Real Madrid enforcer Sami Khedira, with a view to move for the midfielder in the summer.

The Germany international would command a fee of around £20million if he does decide to move, and as German newspaper Bild reports, an offer could be forthcoming in the summer transfer window.


http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/chelsea-look-to-real-madrids-sami-khedira/

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Post by StrugaRock Tue May 14, 2013 2:58 pm

On a poll from AS Bale got 93% of the votes comparing to Neymar's 7%
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Post by FalcaoPunch Tue May 14, 2013 2:59 pm

I wouldn't want either tbh.
But I'm not in charge
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Post by Mamad Tue May 14, 2013 3:28 pm

Sign Rooney for 30-40M and he is better than both.
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Post by Zealous Tue May 14, 2013 3:35 pm

Would rather sign Bale for 50 than Rooney for 40.
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Post by sportsczy Tue May 14, 2013 5:03 pm

yeah i agree with that. Rooney is on the downside of his career. Bale is just coming up. Besides, again... we need width, not more players that go through the middle.
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Post by Adit Tue May 14, 2013 5:05 pm

But Bale at RW doesnt provide any width though. He will basically a rich mans di maria albeit better passing,more shooting and less goat through balls..
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Post by sportsczy Tue May 14, 2013 5:19 pm

He's a lot better than Di Maria... please. He was playing all over the pitch with Spurs this year, which is what we want. Di Maria is a one trick pony. Bale has a complete game and play horizontally and vertically.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue May 14, 2013 5:26 pm

Bale doesn't know how to play a vertical pass to save his life

and lol if you think he will have a license to roam around
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Post by Zealous Tue May 14, 2013 5:29 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Bale doesn't know how to play a vertical pass to save his life

wut lol

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Post by sportsczy Tue May 14, 2013 5:32 pm

Only thing is that with Bale and CR7, our CF should really get a comfortable lawn chair and bring extra food+drinks. He may see 2 shots for a game on a good day lol.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue May 14, 2013 5:36 pm

Zealous wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Bale doesn't know how to play a vertical pass to save his life

wut lol


*gulp* lemme explain

when bale geys the ball outside the opposition area the inly think he does is pass sideways the guy can't put a ball inbetween defenders to his attacker. so basically bale either passes sideways or shoots. No thank you

if he is to replace DiMaria he will need to be creative we can't put all the creativity work on Ozil because we will just be so predictable then
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Post by Zealous Tue May 14, 2013 5:38 pm

sportsczy wrote:Only thing is that with Bale and CR7, our CF should really get a comfortable lawn chair and bring extra food+drinks. He may see 2 shots for a game on a good day lol.

This is why I think we should be in for a forward how is mostly about hold up play and pressing than scoring goals. Some one combative to really keep the CB's busy while the three behind him to their thing.

Bayern have a guy like that in Mandzukic. I wouldn't be against getting a player like that.
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Post by Zealous Tue May 14, 2013 5:41 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Zealous wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Bale doesn't know how to play a vertical pass to save his life

wut lol


*gulp* lemme explain

when bale geys the ball outside the opposition area the inly think he does is pass sideways the guy can't put a ball inbetween defenders to his attacker. so basically bale either passes sideways or shoots. No thank you

if he is to replace DiMaria he will need to be creative we can't put all the creativity work on Ozil because we will just be so predictable then

Passes in behind the defence are a two way street. A run needs to happen before a pass can be made. Even then that's not how we play and that's not likely to change. Higuain makes runs in behind all the time and yet hardly ever gets the ball.

No, we are more about quickly switching flanks and crossing the ball fast and low for another player waiting in at the far post, that's Bale's bread and butter.
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Post by Zealous Tue May 14, 2013 5:45 pm

Almost on cue lol

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2013/05/14/3978681/bale-i-would-love-to-play-outside-of-premier-league
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Post by Valkyrja Tue May 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Bale atm is twice the player Rooney ever was. With Gundogan/CM we will have enough creativity in midfield, Bale's vision and passing isn't bad btw, he improved very much.
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