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Post by Kick Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:42 am

Impressive record, 61% win ratio. :bow:

Congrats Dave, let's hope you get 300 more :bow:

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Post by Shed Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:00 am

Will miss United, Shrewsbury and QPR.
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:23 am

Shame, I didn't think it deserved a straight red.

Chance for Luis, regardless.
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:32 am

Oh it most certainly did. You'll see few clearer-cut than that this season.
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:36 am

It was his first offense, was just late, no malace involved and he apologised as soon as he got up.

He could have left it alone and then could have kept Delany on too.
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:37 am

He led with his studs and went in both feet off the ground. Whether that was his first offence or his tenth, it was a sending-off.
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:39 am

Agree to disagree then.
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:40 am

I not trying to be argumentative, I'm just genuinely surprised anyone could see it as anything other than a red card offence.
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:42 am

I just don't think it was so stonewall.
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:43 am

Then you must have thought similarly about Welbeck's a fortnight ago, no?
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:48 am

Welbeck's was a red, because he plays for Arsenal :coffee:
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:49 am

Sheddy P wins again cheers
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:52 am

I don't actually remember Welbeck's Laughing
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:55 am

Then allow me to refresh your memory :coffee:


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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:59 am

That wasn't given as a red though?
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:01 am

Don't play dumb with me, bucko Clubber
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:13 am

So it wasn't?

So why was Dave's?
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:17 am

You're trying to conflate the two having realised you were wrong in your original post.


As for the disconnect, since they each ended differently, the question is should Welbeck have been sent off, or Azpi not. Anyone not wearing blue-tinted specs (or trying to cover for their own misjudging of the incident) will know it's very much the former.
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:25 am

Considering I'd rather have Dave play the next three games than have 'Wele' miss out on three games, I think it'd have been better if neither were red cards Laughing
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:30 am

Again, that's not the debate. Stop deflecting (believe me, it's working more against you than for you). Yes, I too would have been only too happily silent about Wellshite going unpunished for it if it meant Dave were to as well in the next matchday, but the question is that if you thought, just 2 weeks ago, that the former's was a sending-off, why are you so unwilling to accept that the latter's was as well.
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:34 am

I never said it was a sending off, that comment was a joke Laughing
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:42 am

Allow me, then, to again refresh your memory; this time with your own comments on the matter from a fortnight ago:


I said, as we were discussing Sanchez punching Ivanovic a day or 2 after the game:


Shed wrote:Actually, come to think of it, Sanchez's little fit on Ivanovic was violent conduct and should have been a sending-off too. So that's 4.


Adding, of course, Alexis to the already discussed and agreed-upon Koscielny, Chambers and Welbeck. To which you responded:


Kick wrote:Very true.


So you agreed with it then...but not now?
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:45 am

That's all you've got?

Myself agreeing to a comment about Sanchez?

Ok Laughing
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Post by Shed Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:46 am

Agreeing to a comment about 4 sendings-off, one of which Welbeck was.
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Post by Kick Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:49 am

Laughing

I am too busy for this today.

All I am saying is it isn't a cold hard red card, it is, at least, debatable.
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