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Post by Eivindo August 19th 2012, 23:09

got a feeling this is going down for real. Tbh Cassano never had a winning mentality, as one can see in his lazy attitude on the pitch. He can only last 1 half anyway (he probably pretty mad cause Ibra left him). Going to *bleep* is pretty :facepalm: tho

http://english.gazzetta.it/Football/19-08-2012/the-pazzini-cassano-swap-is-on-negotiations-progress-912303133009.shtml

Pazzo at Milanello:

http://www.football-italia.net/23661/pazzo-milanello-im-very-happy

Montolivo on Pazzini:

“As a person he’s splendid and we’ve been friends for many years,” Montolivo told Milan Channel.

“Together we won the Coppa Italia Primavera with the Atalanta youth team, playing together for that club, at Fiorentina, in the Under-21 Italy side and for the Nazionale.

“It will be wonderful if he arrives. Pazzini has done well in all the teams he played for. He is a fox in the box, very strong in the air and helps his sides to play well.

“It’s wonderful to meet up here, at the club with the most trophies in the world, especially as I feel our squad is missing a player precisely like him.”





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Post by pUsHa August 19th 2012, 23:15

I'd rather have that lazy ass guy for 1 half than a garbage player for 90 minutes seriously .... This team lacks any ability to keep the ball upfront calmly and we are giving up the guy who is doing it best for a chance converter that aint going to get any chances !? lol :bow:
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Post by Eivindo August 19th 2012, 23:24

Lets face it; we have been forming a team this summer and are gonna play like we are advertising for the Italian economy, so Berlusconi can get affection from the people and get re elected as Bunga Bunga minister.

Cassano is just a player that wont like to play the kick and run PL mid table football we are aiming for this season, and its understandable. He just dont fit our new style.

This is what we are aiming for: Flamini, Traore, Ambrosini, Constant, Muntari, Nocerino - 6 headless chickens, RLY? Mad
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Post by Guest August 19th 2012, 23:35

Eivindo wrote:Lets face it; we have been forming a team this summer and are gonna play like we are advertising for the Italian economy, so
This is what we are aiming for: Flamini, Traore, Ambrosini, Constant, Muntari, Nocerino - 6 headless chickens, RLY? Mad

allegri braida galliani are convinced they are good enough to play for milan :facepalm:

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Post by DRK August 20th 2012, 00:15

Galliani after today's match

I can see the people following us are more interested in the market than the Berlusconi Trophy,” Milan Vice President and CEO Galliani said after the game. “There are two weeks left in the market, we’ll see what happens. We’ll talk with President Berlusconi and Coach Allegri, consider things and make a decision.

“There are negotiations in place, there is no doubt about that, and we will see. As with all negotiations, they can conclude positively or negatively. I will not deny something is stirring.” Milan President Berlusconi decided not to comment on this piece of exchange, saying “I know nothing about it.” What clear is that Cassano, whose career could’ve been over if it wasn’t for Milan and their doctors, wants to leave, and fast.

“Antonio has asked to leave and be transferred,” Galliani added to Milan Channel. “The most likely hypothesis is that of an exchange. We’ll see how it ends.” The swap would include Pazzini and Cassano who played together at Sampdoria and were a great striking force. They are both unhappy at their clubs.
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DRK wrote:Galliani after today's match

I can see the people following us are more interested in the market than the Berlusconi Trophy,” Milan Vice President and CEO Galliani said after the game. “There are two weeks left in the market, we’ll see what happens. We’ll talk with President Berlusconi and Coach Allegri, consider things and make a decision.

“There are negotiations in place, there is no doubt about that, and we will see. As with all negotiations, they can conclude positively or negatively. I will not deny something is stirring.” Milan President Berlusconi decided not to comment on this piece of exchange, saying “I know nothing about it.” What clear is that Cassano, whose career could’ve been over if it wasn’t for Milan and their doctors, wants to leave, and fast.

“Antonio has asked to leave and be transferred,” Galliani added to Milan Channel. “The most likely hypothesis is that of an exchange. We’ll see how it ends.” The swap would include Pazzini and Cassano who played together at Sampdoria and were a great striking force. They are both unhappy at their clubs.

management has gone mental, and cassano's gone nuts for selling silva and ibra...


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Post by Ganso August 20th 2012, 03:51

No,cassano has shown hes a douche.he can gtfo,the guy thinks he is bigger than the club after all the support we gave him,let him go,I just hope he fails wherever he heads to,i lost the respect i had for him
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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 August 20th 2012, 03:52

What's the point of being angry anymore?

If Milan end up selling Cassano then whatever, it's not like B&G are going to sign some amazing player to replace him (if they even decide to replace him).

Milan is f**ked even if he stays or goes.
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Post by tonger August 20th 2012, 04:26

ya seriously cassano is not even a make or break at this point.........it would be funny watching pato run straight into defenders and pazzini sit in the penalty for 90 minutes though. *not really
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Post by Luca August 20th 2012, 04:54

tonger wrote:ya seriously cassano is not even a make or break at this point.........it would be funny watching pato run straight into defenders and pazzini sit in the penalty for 90 minutes though. *not really

Milan will still have Binho and El Shaarawy who can run at players
If Cassano insists on leaving [or any player in that sense] you can't really force him to stay

Pazzini could be a decent return

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Post by Guest August 20th 2012, 05:12

BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:What's the point of being angry anymore?

If Milan end up selling Cassano then whatever, it's not like B&G are going to sign some amazing player to replace him (if they even decide to replace him).

Milan is f**ked even if he stays or goes.

i understand anger from fans posters, towards cassano . its not the matter of the ordeals or business but we are talking about professional courtesy here.

we helped him play at bigger level again, we helped him during life threatening times, we gave times of comfort and sanctuary during tough times whether that was his heart problem or his issues at sampdoria, we even got him back to fitness early than expected and let him play at euro....

hell, during the comments cassano threatened to leave during euro, and also his gay comments, milan galliani stayed quiet... and defended him. and now we consider him as main guy to lead... he wants to leave???

also, from fans perspective to seeing things from player is different, when cassano is a player, he is paid, he is contracted, he has rules to obey ... just like any citizen does, when he is in his job.... he has absolutely no business to boycott and agitate towards management, when something goes wrong. and there are couple of reasons why he wants to leave, allegedly, 1 is that because of what is going on in market, secondly is because of his wife according to reports, 3rd is that it was reported he wanted longer contract with payrise because top players left.

whatever the reason is .... he has no business to interfere, and just stfu and work, because thats what other players have been doing. and thats his job....

but really, if he wants to leave, we all know club is important than these arrogant players, its better off getting rid of them now than having them for life....

we all knew what we are going to get from guys like cassano, most of us started to think he has kept his trouble behind. thats why i always think that players professional attributes aside, their personal character professionalism and attitude should also be considered if possible, its not possible all the time but atleast they need to take these things into account, just like employers do in normal life.

atm sure management is the problem, but way i think, players have absolutely no business boycotting whatever is going on in business. THEY ARE WELL PAID... to do their job...


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Luca wrote:
tonger wrote:ya seriously cassano is not even a make or break at this point.........it would be funny watching pato run straight into defenders and pazzini sit in the penalty for 90 minutes though. *not really

Milan will still have Binho and El Shaarawy who can run at players
If Cassano insists on leaving [or any player in that sense] you can't really force him to stay

Pazzini could be a decent return

el sharawwy is not ready.... he is still long long way to lead the team....

atm everything is broke... this is a big problem to fix... our management has been lazy, ignorant, stupid and unprepared, ... always looking for short term fix... or buying 1 superstar and hiring 10 bunch of idiots who dont know how to play football...

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Post by red&blacklegion August 20th 2012, 05:17

Luca wrote:
tonger wrote:ya seriously cassano is not even a make or break at this point.........it would be funny watching pato run straight into defenders and pazzini sit in the penalty for 90 minutes though. *not really

Milan will still have Binho and El Shaarawy who can run at players
If Cassano insists on leaving [or any player in that sense] you can't really force him to stay


Yes ,we can force him to stay.Just like what City did to Tevez. The thing that bothers me is that thi is not gonna be just a straight swap. its Casano and Cash. Id rather have Kaka Pato,cassano upfront than Robinho ,Kaka ,Pazzini. This shows how retarded our management is.
Pazzini could be a decent return
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Post by Guest August 20th 2012, 05:22

tonger wrote:ya seriously cassano is not even a make or break at this point.........it would be funny watching pato run straight into defenders and pazzini sit in the penalty for 90 minutes though. *not really

lol i dont know whether to laugh or get angry.... its such a mess,

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Post by Luca August 20th 2012, 05:27

JespSwe wrote:
Luca wrote:
tonger wrote:ya seriously cassano is not even a make or break at this point.........it would be funny watching pato run straight into defenders and pazzini sit in the penalty for 90 minutes though. *not really

Milan will still have Binho and El Shaarawy who can run at players
If Cassano insists on leaving [or any player in that sense] you can't really force him to stay

Pazzini could be a decent return

el sharawwy is not ready.... he is still long long way to lead the team....

atm everything is broke... this is a big problem to fix... our management has been lazy, ignorant, stupid and unprepared, ... always looking for short term fix... or buying 1 superstar and hiring 10 bunch of idiots who dont know how to play football...

I agree that he might not be ready but you don't really have any other options right now and given the chance he might shine. As long as the club is patient.

The Pazzini signing actually makes sense. He can genuinely be a 20 goal scorer with the right service.

I also agree with what you're saying about the management. I really do, but unfortunately the situation is what it is. It's a shame that a chunk of the money from the ibra and silva sales werent reinvested.

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Post by dostoevsky August 20th 2012, 06:59

Firstly, I'd like to just say something of the idea of trading one of our second strikers for a centre forward, independent of the quality of those players. That we require a centre forward, whether a starter or a back-up is certainly obvious, our squad has been decimated in this regards, with only Pato capable of fulfilling this role. Our forward line, whilst still one of quality, lacks balance in this critical regard, particularly given that our forwards such as Cassano, Robinho and El Shaarawy truly require a central figure in order to shine. As it stands, they all seem to be in competition with each other, whilst Pato is without a potential understudy or even usurper.

Ideally, our forward line would be amended simply with the addition of a centre forward, without sacrificing depth on another front, however given the economic limitations upon our club, it is understandable that a swap is being entertained. The proposal it would seem then requires simply that we give proper attention to the names involved.

Two names that few would want to see arise however are those of Cassano and Pazzini. Our hand however is being forced, both by extenuating factors and by our own poor design. We gave up Maxi Lopez, gave scant thought to the need to replace Ibrahimovic whilst Roma secured Destro, used up our non-EU spots and now have failed to resolve the situation with just two weeks of the transfer window left. The time has past when we could afford to be picky unfortunately and the names that still exist who would might yet appeal to the majority of us are out of sight to our narrow focus.

Is Pazzini really the best we can do though, even at short notice? Out of Matri, Pazzini and Borriello, Giampaolo is the finest finisher, however his general play is equally the most limited and he's been the least impressive in the last twelve months, which isn't a simple task when you're up against Borriello. He's a striker playing without confidence, without energy and unless he leaves Inter quickly, he's a striker without a future. A striker who can not thrive without service hardly appeals to a fanbase looking for the revolution of their team and seems particularly unpalatable having just lost the finest centre forward in the world. He achieved notoriety at the side of Cassano and so it is strange to see them linked in a deal which does not unite them but which switches them. At Inter, Pazzini lacked the requisite partner to shine, however without guaranteed time and an unfamiliar partner, can he really do much better in the red half of the city? In his favour, Pazzini need only represent a reserve at first, yet one who will be looking to fight for time with an eye on a surprise return to the top, with more suitable partners in the likes of Robinho and the Pharaoh than he had in support at Inter. At his worst though, he's an inadequate reminder of just how far we've got to go to rebuild whislt we're not even moving in the right direction.

Pazzini is a short term solution, the quix fix we so often look for, short of the quality we require to dominate the league and Europe as we wish to one day do again. If his competition for a place in our team is to be Borriello and Matri though, our other options are hardly more appealling.

As for Cassano, he's the most creative player in our squad, a fantastically gifted footballing mind who has consistently produced results when played and possesses a vision that is unparalled in our squad. If he has handed in a transfer request though, then no one should hold him against his will. After we stood by him and gave him another chance, he should have gone through hell to bring us back to the top. It's his decision though and if he doesn't want to fight tooth and nail to return us to the top, then it is best that he leave now and allow El Shaarawy a chance to step up as a first reserve to Robinho. It's a pity and one always wants a player of Cassano's quality on their team, however only those who are willing members of a project are worth building around. A player of his quality should never be swapped for a player such as Pazzini, however a player of his dedication to the team? That is a different matter entirely.

If they are to be swapped though, Inter shouldn't get a single cent and if any money is to be exchanged, it should be lining our pockets.

I haven't written this piece because I like the move, simply because I see the logic behind it and the factors that surround our club dramatically alter what is otherwise an unfair player exchange. I'd like to say that our management will surprise us and that talk of a deal like this was the coldest part of the night, right before the dawn. Realistically, this is just textbook us.

Robinho's a fine player who will have to step up and give us another season like his first in terms of his goal return and El Shaarawy will have to shoulder more responsibility, however it is under these circumstances that players can finally grow, with enough time on the pitch to learn and see the reward of their hard work in training. Give them hell, our little Pharaoh.
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Post by Ganso August 20th 2012, 13:29

If anyone is going to pay something it has to be inter
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Post by Vibe August 20th 2012, 13:56

We gonna get money banana
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Post by Cassius August 20th 2012, 16:04

Pazzini for 7 million and a still decent Cassano Laughing

Before the seasons even kicked off: Inter 1, Milan 0.

Interesting to see how it turns out...
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Post by dostoevsky August 20th 2012, 16:15

We're sending Cassano to Inter to ensure the ostracisation of Coutinho, robbing Inter of their one true saviour. banana

Secret Agent Antonio banana

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Post by IrasMaldinista August 20th 2012, 23:49

Look, I ain't against selling Cassano at all, what shocks me is that we are giving Italy national team's no.10 plus 7m goddamn Euros for a player who virtually hasn't played for Italy yet and believe it or not, he's supposed to be at his prime at 28 years of age.

Milan are losing here. This is as obviously I can say it as possible.

I don't know, Milan better have a solution in mind, because we need another three players to come this week, and this didn't solve our numerical problem.

Now we have three support attackers (92, 9, 7) and one box striker (Pazzo). This can't do.

At this time, Kaka's transfer has changed shape and meaning, because right now his isn't considered a sentimental signing, but a necessary one.

In addition to Ricky, there has to be another CF coming.
Bendtner? Matri? Borriello even? I don't know, we just need one.

As for midfield, it's pretty obvious we're short both in terms of quality and numbers. Constant, Traore, Muntari, even Emanuelson are not problem solvers, they're just space-fillers and salary-getters.

As for defense, it truly sounds shocking to me that people are talking about a left-back. WHAT DO WE NEED ONE FOR? We got 6 players capable of playing there, what we don't have is one, only one competent center-back.

Yepes and Zapata were exactly Pat & Mat. Acerbi is our own version of Ranocchia and Mexes looks like Yokozuna. Bonera is good for Serie-A, but you need to do better than that in UCL.
I guess it won't be that hard to sign Kolo Toure from Man City. Experienced, reliable AND UNWANTED i.e. CHEAP!


If you remember correctly, what we always moaned about wasn't Gattuso, Nesta, Seedorf and rest of the old guard's quality, we were just unhappy that the club wasn't doing anything to replace them gradually.

Every time Nesta embarrassed Messi (and Thiago Silva) with one of his unrepeatable, awe-inspiring blocks, I became more restless, because I saw nobody within our reach who could possibly replace him. Same for other top performers who left.

And now, here we are, left with nothing but Ambrosini, Pato and just a few decent players after a drastic revolution, which much reminisces the revolution that took place in my country 34 years ago and effed up everybody's life.


This team better be planning a surprise, otherwise we won't make it to the top-3 in the league, something which will result in sale of Boateng and Pato in July-August 2013.
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Post by andiii August 21st 2012, 00:11

this is not a great deal on milans half. if it's any consolation i think pazzini will do well at milan though. he can be your next inzaghi (if he hits top form)
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Post by tonger August 21st 2012, 01:30

we can always hope for the best i guess, i wasnt even hating on pazzini, but like u all said, pazzini needs service, where is that gonna come from? monty and binho MAYYBE SES? because thats basically where any creativity in this squad ends... if he doesnt get more service than he did last season, how is he supposed to contribute more than he did for inter last season Sad

wow i just noticed, how my message, started trying to be optimistic, and as i started typing away, logic hit me, and i became sad by the time i finished typing....
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Luca wrote:
JespSwe wrote:
Luca wrote:
tonger wrote:ya seriously cassano is not even a make or break at this point.........it would be funny watching pato run straight into defenders and pazzini sit in the penalty for 90 minutes though. *not really

Milan will still have Binho and El Shaarawy who can run at players
If Cassano insists on leaving [or any player in that sense] you can't really force him to stay

Pazzini could be a decent return

el sharawwy is not ready.... he is still long long way to lead the team....

atm everything is broke... this is a big problem to fix... our management has been lazy, ignorant, stupid and unprepared, ... always looking for short term fix... or buying 1 superstar and hiring 10 bunch of idiots who dont know how to play football...

I agree that he might not be ready but you don't really have any other options right now and given the chance he might shine. As long as the club is patient.

The Pazzini signing actually makes sense. He can genuinely be a 20 goal scorer with the right service.

I also agree with what you're saying about the management. I really do, but unfortunately the situation is what it is. It's a shame that a chunk of the money from the ibra and silva sales werent reinvested.

yeah i would like allegri to play el sharawwy more, from el sharawwy part too he should be showing his potential now because this is possibility the first time in a while club has given chance for youngster to play more often as first 11.


pazzini signings doesnt make sense to me . his form has dropped significantly, plus like u said, at right service he might score, but montolivo aside, there are none who can create chance. plus consistency is a big problem for pazzini, not to mention cassano swap is the stupid idea i have ever heard, and we have to pay inter 7 million??? for a player who rarely scores goals, we are on the brink of loosing a player, source of assists...

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