Re: The Cantera thread

[Zealous]

Big win for Castilla. Gotta say it came at a great time too.

[halamadrid2]

Denis started for Russia u21 a day after he played for Castilla dat spirit

[halamadrid2]

da fuq I don't understand this

Russia u21 played against Spain u21 yesterday and against Andorra u21 today is that even possible?

[halamadrid2]

HT Real Madrid C 0-0 Real Oviedo

we have looked more likely to score than them but final third decision making needs to improve

llorente is having a shocker as well but understandable since he isn't a left back

[halamadrid2]

Real Madrid C 1-1 Real Oviedo

we were 5 minutes from winning, they scored from a penalty in the 85th min

Llorente was getting tortured out there it went so far that he didn't care anymore seriously it was 90 minutes of pure torture not only that but he was the reason for the penalty for putting his hand up and the ball hitting him.........never play him as a LB again please, he cost us the 3 points

[halamadrid2]

Both Llorente and Omar called up to Castilla despite playing for the C team this Thursday

no Mosquera or Alex which means Jose Rodriguez might get to start next to Casemiro but both are CMs

hoping for this line up

Mejias
Fabinho-Nacho-Llorente-Casado
Casemiro-Jose
Juanfran-Jese-Denis
Morata

but Toril will probably try and fit Borja in somewhere

[Zealous]

Casemiro- J Rod has potential

[halamadrid2]

it has both are really young as well 18 and 17 years old respectively. I hope they do great so that we can stop playing Mosquera. ..... but don't be surprised if Toril manages to stick in Borja there or even Omar who got to play over Jose when Alex was suspended

[Zealous]

Toril playing favourites has hurt Castilla this season. Won't be surprised if he gets fired and replaced with Morientes

[halamadrid2]

I don't want him to get fired because frankly he is a great coach but all these bought players are clouding his judgement

but he is making progress by calling up the solid llorente from the C team to shore up our leaky defence and the very promisig Benavente is training with Castilla despite playing for Juvenil A...I can totally see him doing a Jese and go straight from Juvenil A to Castilla

our team next season if the management can keep their slippery hands in their pockets and trust our youngsters

Mejias
Fabinho-Derik-Llorente-Noblejas
Casemiro-Jose
Denis-Benavente-Jese
Raul de Tomas

average age 17

I just hope we can win today *fingers crossed*

[Zealous]

That's a great team

[halamadrid2]

Real Madrid C game starts in 5 minutes hopefully they can continue their good form. its important to get that fourth spot in case Castilla get relegated

[halamadrid2]

7 mins left of regular time and we are leading 2-0 away

I really really like the C teams defence why don't they just swap it god damn it

Burgui is one hell of a player. little selfish but really really good

[halamadrid2]

FT- Fuenlabrada 0-2 Real Madrid C

getting closer to top 4

[Chimaera1995]

Castilla up with to 2-0 against Huesca in 15 minutes. Goals from Jesé and Borja, both assisted by Juanfran.

Jesé:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xytdzq_rmca-1-0-hue_sport#.UWHGiaJZCjs


Borja:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyte2j_rmca-2-0-hue_sport#.UWHGhaJZCjt

[Chimaera1995]

Castilla won with 5-1 and 2 goals from Jesé. Pleaseeee, give him more chances and don't let hem leave.

Jesé.

[Zealous]

Jese played great. Hope he doesn't go anywhere.

[the xcx]

Could use him in Chelsea right about now.

[halamadrid2]

the fans love Jese everytime he dribbled past players there were loud cheers and when he was fouled there were loud jeers

hopefully he sees that he is loved and does not leave. for Jeses first goal he spotted Juanfrans run with Ozil level vision but Juanfran missed by was able to pass it back to Jese who scored. he really can be a complete player if he continues developing the way he does

also I have to point out how much our defence has improved since Casado was dropped. Maybe the whole problem was actually him and not our CBs

[Valkyrja]

Jese has to be promoted, give him minutes in Copa, CL group stages and easy Liga matches.

[Chimaera1995]

It just isn't going to happen. For some reason Jesé doens't get any minutes from Mou. He's playing great and doens't get any minutes. There must be something else. Maybe the relationship between Mou and Toril. IDK, it just doesnt'make any sence he doens't get play time at the first team.

I think he leaves after this season.

[Zealous]

Two reasons I can think of

1) Toril is not letting Mou call up Jese because that would mean Castilla would have to play without him and Toril doesn't want that.

2) Jose is not convinced with Jese's ability to follow tactical instructions.

I actually think it's number 1.

[halamadrid2]

when Jese complained in that interview Toril told him to be quiet or else he wouldn't be called up by Mou so in essence Toril is not stopping him at all. besides there has been a couple of times where there has been 2/3 days difference in games of the first and second team. And you are allowed to play for both first and the second team on the same weekend so thats further disputed.

Also Morata might have looked tactically decent for the first team but he was far from that for Castilla. Jese both defends and attacks when he plays on the wing. Mourinho does not want to call him up because he is butthurt that Jese criticised him and praised Toril

[Zealous]

Yeah Jose Mourinho is having a feud with a Castilla kid

Fact of the matter is Jese is a nobody in football. Morata proved that Jose is prepared to use youth products if they are willing to work and listen to him. In any case Jose is not likely to stay for another season so Jese still has a shot at promotion however, I prefer if he does what Carvajal did and go to Germany to gain some experience before coming back.

[halamadrid2]

Mou doesn't like to be criticised remember Ronaldo two seasons ago and Iker now so when Jese criticeses him it becomes capuch of his chances of getting minutes from the first team. Mou has proved before he gives minutes to those who don't deserve it and are not "hyped" I can name at least four who have gotten alot of minutes despite not even being close to good or a regular for their team.

Mourinho promoting Morata was only because he said he wanted to make a Castilla player a regular for the first team. The kid doesn't even get minutes in games we are winning 5-0. Morata probably went home and didn't wash his shirt after getting that full game vs Barca. Look at Nacho promoted but forgotten. All this "I promoted two so now shut up" is just his way of getting the media off his back. He will never be friendly with youth and especially not if they openly criticise you and praise your internal enemy

But if he does leave Mou that is then Jess should be happy because I don't think there is a single coach as stubburn as hi. when it comes to neglecting youth players

[Zealous]

Jose doesn't exactly need to bother with Jese anyway. Not when our front four is stacked as it is and not when Jese thinks he has any right to complain in an interview. Morata had to wait longer than Jese and he didn't complain at all and now he is slowly being used more and more and I think he'll eventually be a great squad player for us, maybe even more.

LOL Toril being Jose's enemy Toril is a nobody and he isn't even doing a good job with Castilla atm. He is not using Real Madrid C players and he isn't making use of the younger guys. If you are going to criticize Mou then Toril is in my opinion much worse at being stubborn.

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