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Post by Art Morte Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:49 pm

Greece need to win if they want to reach the next stage. But Russia have been far more convincing and they should have enough skill to take at least a point from this one.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:52 pm

Russia will destroy Greece. 3-4 goal win in this one imo.
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Post by Die Borussen Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:57 pm

sokratis papastathopoulos is back!

he will teach europe some defending!

i doupt with our stubborn coach that we will be creative, since he too doesnt trust youngsters

but im 99% sure are CBs can handle russia, ( papadopoulos - sokratis )
in defence all im afraid of is our left flank since our left back is weak

anyway its football anything can happen so i believe!

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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:00 pm

Greece will get destroyed
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Post by Die Borussen Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:08 pm

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Greece will get destroyed

if we go through we face you in the round of 8

it will feel good eliminating germany :coffee:

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Post by Firenze Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:23 pm

Why isn't this on TV in the UK? hmm
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:28 pm

It is on BBC 3 i think.
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Post by Dante Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:43 pm

sportsczy wrote:Russia will destroy Greece. 3-4 goal win in this one imo.

Russia can't destroy Greece. We have the IMF for that Laughing .

Russia will just have some fun on the pitch ... I just hope we don't make it easy for them.
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Post by Ganso Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:45 pm

sorry dante,but i will be cheering for russia for my fantasy football team's sake. GO DZAGOEV
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Post by Onyx Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:48 pm

Yeh it's on BBC3.

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Post by Gemini Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:51 pm

Greece by all rights have been hard done by in this tournament, they had a wrongfully sending off to their best centre back, a pen saved & a goal disallowed.

In a different tournament with the heart they've played with they could be among the top of this group, with a very good chance of qualifying now.

I don't expect Russia to batter them, who knows maybe they will but I expect a tight game here.

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Post by Dante Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:11 pm

Ganso wrote:sorry dante,but i will be cheering for russia for my fantasy football team's sake. GO DZAGOEV

no worries Ganso , if i weren't Greek , i wouldn't either Laughing

When you look at a team and you can understand their best characteristic is the defence ; and you play a 4-3-3 Laughing ... everything would go and went wrong so far.

Don't want to drag this , it's mainly due to our coach we suck that much in this Euro . I know we aren't the super team obviously, but i know almost all of these players really well .

They would have done so much more with a proper coach , instead of this one who instructs players to hoof the ball after they get past the middle line of the field..

a joke of a coach , sadly for Greece.

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Post by Die Borussen Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:15 pm

he is a joke since he doesnt start ninis

i dont give a shit if he had a bad half

fking samaras worst player on earth gets the start each game

karagounis older than my grandfather gets the start each game and ends up playing 90 minutes

what is wroooong with him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Group A: Greece vs Russia discussion 2276801876

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Post by Dante Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:19 pm

Gemini wrote:Greece by all rights have been hard done by in this tournament, they had a wrongfully sending off to their best centre back, a pen saved & a goal disallowed.

In a different tournament with the heart they've played with they could be among the top of this group, with a very good chance of qualifying now.

I don't expect Russia to batter them, who knows maybe they will but I expect a tight game here.

It's true we ve been very unlucky , but that's not the main reason we might be out of the competition by tonight.

I ll just repeat what a friend of mine said some days ago outside a cinema :

" If that's a thriller , then they haven't seen the NT play " .

Got to say , beside being funny it was also true. The coach's methods and ideas are archaic and his choices on players in the 11 are even worse. Despite some very hard calls for us to swallow , it's because of tactics and coach faults we won't qualifiy.
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Post by Dante Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:29 pm

deadrave wrote:he is a joke since he doesnt start ninis

i dont give a shit if he had a bad half

fking samaras worst player on earth gets the start each game

karagounis older than my grandfather gets the start each game and ends up playing 90 minutes

what is wroooong with him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Group A: Greece vs Russia discussion 2276801876

Indeed.. Ninis wasn't bad at all actually. He just tried to create stuff on his own , with no real help most of the time. He subbed him in half time against Poland but kept Samaras , Chalkias and Holebas in.. mind blowing stuff. Ninis got "punished" because he tried to play , football...

In any case , you know what an idiot he is , no need to explain Laughing

Leaving out Fetfatzidis , Ninis , Mitroglou ... for Samaras , Karagounis and Gekas . Guy is a joke and i am being very kind with him in the forum. You don't want to hear me during the games Laughing
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Post by Onyx Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:09 pm

Greece: Sifakis, Maniatis, K. Papadopoulos, Tzavellas, Torossidis, Papastathopoulos, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaras, Salpingidis, Gekas SUBS: Chalkias, Tzorvas, Malezas, Holebas, Makos, Fotakis, Ninis, Fortounis, Fetfatzidis, Liberopoulos, Mitroglou////

Russia: Malafeev, Anyukov, Ignashevich, Zhirkov, Berezutski, Shirokov, Denisov, Dzagoev, Glushakov, Arshavin, Kerzhakov SUBS: Akinfeev, Shunin, Sharonov, Granat, Nababkin, Izmailov, Kombarov, Semshov, Pavlyuchenko, Pogrebnyak

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Post by Dante Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:32 pm

mtfootball wrote:Greece: Sifakis, Maniatis, K. Papadopoulos, Tzavellas, Torossidis, Papastathopoulos, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaras, Salpingidis, Gekas SUBS: Chalkias, Tzorvas, Malezas, Holebas, Makos, Fotakis, Ninis, Fortounis, Fetfatzidis, Liberopoulos, Mitroglou////

Ok , here's what i am talking about Santos being catastrophic for Greece.

Tzavellas is a left back. Santos playing him CB , despite Papastathopoulos being able to play again.
Papastathopoulos is a pure CB , he's playing him as DM.
Maniatis played his best games as a DM , mediocre at RB , he's playing him RB.
Katsouranis is the best Greek DM we have, he's playing him CM.
Karagounis is too old now for 3-man-midfield to keep up with the rythm and pace it requires.
Samaras is worthless of being a NT player , he's starting him each and every game.
Gekas is on Torres mode this season , Mitroglou who had his best season is benched by Santos.

If we concede 3 or less goals against Russia , i will consider it a victory :coffee:


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Post by Die Borussen Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:34 pm

scratch

tzavellas will play LB papastathopoulos CB Maniatis DM
what are you talking about mate ? Very Happy

only katsouranis will play where you said which is CM hmm

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Post by Die Borussen Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:36 pm

something like that

torosidis----papastathopoulos------papadopoulos ------- tzavellas
----------------------maniatis---karagounis--------------------
---------------------------katsouranis-------------------------
salpigidis---------------------------------------------samaras
------------------------greek torres----------------------------

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Post by Dante Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:41 pm

deadrave wrote: scratch

tzavellas will play LB papastathopoulos CB Maniatis DM
what are you talking about mate ? Very Happy

only katsouranis will play where you said which is CM hmm

i thought they were in order . I misunderstood , scratch that post then.
anyway . Katsuranis as CM , Samaras & Gekas still in ... hard to deal with.

At least Chalkias and Cholevas won't be playing.
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Post by Dante Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:47 pm

deadrave wrote:something like that

torosidis----papastathopoulos------papadopoulos ------- tzavellas
----------------------maniatis---karagounis--------------------
---------------------------katsouranis-------------------------
salpigidis---------------------------------------------samaras
------------------------greek torres----------------------------

More like
Maniatis
Karagounis - Katsouranis

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Post by Die Borussen Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:34 pm

_LMG_10_ wrote:

but greece scoring Razz

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Post by _LMG_10_ Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:46 pm

lol

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