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Post by che Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:55 pm

rochina and grimaldo weren't enough, now they took two best players of our infantil B - abel ruiz and enric martinez, completely behind valencia's back, and our board is furious

http://valenciacf.lasprovincias.es/noticias/2012-06-15/expolio-cantera-valencia-20120615.html

mes que un club indeed

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Post by Kick Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:56 pm

Tsk Tsk, Naughty Barcelona.
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Post by Swanhends Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:57 pm

pedocelona hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:59 pm

Tito Pedonova hmm
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Post by justdoit_ Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:00 pm

Kick wrote:Tsk Tsk, Naughty Barcelona.
Barça just Chelsea'd Valencia.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:01 pm

I will refer to this thread the next time Che gets called a Barca fan by ignorant Madrid fans Laughing
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Post by free_cat Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:02 pm

We are talking about 11 year old kids. They are nowhere near professionals and can decide wherever they want to play. They'll probably end up being nothing anyway.

Different story, is when the kid has a certain age and a compensation should be paid, and the buying club doesn't want to pay it.
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Post by Forza Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:02 pm

Pirates pirat
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Post by Lex Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:22 pm

free_cat desperately clutching at straws for all he's worth, trying to stay afloat Laughing
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:24 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:pedocelona hmm

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Post by Le Samourai Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:24 pm

free_cat wrote:We are talking about 11 year old kids. They are nowhere near professionals and can decide wherever they want to play. They'll probably end up being nothing anyway.

Different story, is when the kid has a certain age and a compensation should be paid, and the buying club doesn't want to pay it.
scratch

Somehow a 11 year old has now become more equipped to make this type of decision than a 16 year old.


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Post by RED Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:28 pm

Che has said something negative about Barca for once. Shocked

I need to pinch myself to check if I'm not dreaming.
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Post by che Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:38 pm

free_cat wrote:We are talking about 11 year old kids. They are nowhere near professionals and can decide wherever they want to play. They'll probably end up being nothing anyway.

Different story, is when the kid has a certain age and a compensation should be paid, and the buying club doesn't want to pay it.

grimaldo was about that age when you stole him too, now he's one of the brightest prospects of "your" academy
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Post by BarcaKizz Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:42 pm

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Post by free_cat Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:59 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
free_cat wrote:We are talking about 11 year old kids. They are nowhere near professionals and can decide wherever they want to play. They'll probably end up being nothing anyway.

Different story, is when the kid has a certain age and a compensation should be paid, and the buying club doesn't want to pay it.
scratch

Somehow a 11 year old has now become more equipped to make this type of decision than a 16 year old.

It's not obviously if he's more equipped or not, at that age the decision is taken by their parents, obviously. It's about that a 11 year old can't be legally binded to any kind of labour agreement, thus he is free to come and go as he wants from one team to another (as long as their parents agree).

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free_cat wrote:We are talking about 11 year old kids. They are nowhere near professionals and can decide wherever they want to play. They'll probably end up being nothing anyway.

Different story, is when the kid has a certain age and a compensation should be paid, and the buying club doesn't want to pay it.

grimaldo was about that age when you stole him too, now he's one of the brightest prospects of "your" academy

Yes, good for him (and us!).
However, the point is that players at that age are free to come and go. We sign players from other teams, Valencia does too all the time. There's no ethical problem here. The ethical problem would exist if the signing club had to pay a compensation and didn't do it.
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:04 pm

Meh what do you expect from a club like Barca, honestly. I hear this sort of problem is way worse in Uruguay.
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Post by DuringTheWar Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:18 pm

free_cat wrote:We are talking about 11 year old kids. They are nowhere near professionals and can decide wherever they want to play. They'll probably end up being nothing anyway.

like iniesta? hmm
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Post by BarcaKizz Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:25 pm

This thread is actually so stupid its not funny... All young footballers come from somewhere before joining a big club. That they came from a club like Valencia doesn't matter... its still juniors, they can do what they want.

Sorry Terrassa Under 11s, we apologise for the morally incorrect act of taking Xavi from you. If it weren't for our unethical robbery of your player you would be dominating Spanish football right now...
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Post by Forza Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:29 pm

BarcaKizz wrote:This thread is actually so stupid its not funny... All young footballers come from somewhere before joining a big club. That they came from a club like Valencia doesn't matter... its still juniors, they can do what they want.

Sorry Terrassa Under 11s, we apologise for the morally incorrect act of taking Xavi from you. If it weren't for our unethical robbery of your player you would be dominating Spanish football right now...
It's not merely the act of taking a youth player from another club that is unethical, it is the manner in which the players were taken - behind the backs of Valencia's board.
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Post by punkfusion1992 Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:12 pm

okay they are infantil ffs
they can change clubs whenever they like.... nothing wrong, move along
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Post by Harmonica Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:25 pm

So are they any good? Razz
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:05 pm

hope Perez monitors entrance and exists of our youth through the doors of Valdebebas and Di Stefano Stadium Laughing
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Post by punkfusion1992 Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:18 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:hope Perez monitors entrance and exists of our youth through the doors of Valdebebas and Di Stefano Stadium Laughing

umm Jose Angel Pozo plays for City.... :facepalm:
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:02 pm

punkfusion1992 wrote:umm Jose Angel Pozo plays for City.... :facepalm:

Dat money wh*re??? at least we made Man City pay up eventho he is less than 16 Laughing . and tbh we are stacked up in the attack it wouldnt really matter if he left
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Post by che Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:45 pm

BarcaKizz wrote:

Sorry Terrassa Under 11s, we apologise for the morally incorrect act of taking Xavi from you. If it weren't for our unethical robbery of your player you would be dominating Spanish football right now...

:facepalm:

yea, young footballers come from "somewhere" when they used to play for crappy local teams and progress to bigger clubs, not when their new club takes them from another big club with an established academy... thank god for all the players you save from languishing in the same system that produced eg david silva, what a waste of time that would be
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