Re: The Catalans vs The Basques

by Harmonica Mon May 21, 2012 5:22 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season

Would you claim Inter won UCL in 09-10?

by paperbackwriter Mon May 21, 2012 5:24 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season

Exactly my sentiment. And as I wrote in my first post on the topic. I consider the sextuple a sextuple. But our dear friend Jiopsi is trying to bend it both ways since he both want the sextuple as well as claiming that Messi won 4 (potentially) titles this season. And when I dispute that he can have it both ways I'm pointed out as the illogical one... All while trying to make up things like "well there is no definition of a sextuple" and then trying to create a new definition separate from the on going discussion on what season a certain title belongs to. Which he views as a complete separate discussion somehow.

by buddytaller Mon May 21, 2012 5:25 pm

The Club World Cup and Super Cups don't really count as "major" trophies in my opinion, or Rafael Benitez would have been one of the most successful managers at Inter. They are just trophies to pad up your trophy count, I rate them below the Champions League, the national League and the national cup.

by paperbackwriter Mon May 21, 2012 5:27 pm

jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season
Would you claim Inter won UCL in 09-10?

Watch out for this one. He's gonna try a jedi mind trick in terms of logic.

by Lord Awesome Mon May 21, 2012 5:56 pm

Any tournament that ends within the same year should be catigorized as that season's tournament, IMO.

Basques to take it, IMO. :coffee:

by S32TABLANCA Mon May 21, 2012 6:02 pm

The sectuple belongs to the calendar year of 2009. Not a season. At the same time, Barca have won three trophies this year. Yes, they are all completely useless and Mickey Mouse etc, but they are trophies. If we won a CWC I would most certainly count it as a trophy.

by Swanhends Mon May 21, 2012 6:03 pm

jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season
Would you claim Inter won UCL in 09-10?

In the 2009-10 season Inter won Serie A, CL, Coppa Italia, Italian Supercup, CWC - as far as I'm concerned

Edit: To be clear

In the 2010-11 season Inter won Coppa Italia...thats it

by Lord Awesome Mon May 21, 2012 6:04 pm

S32TABLANCA wrote:The sectuple belongs to the calendar year of 2009. Not a season. At the same time, Barca have won three trophies this year. Yes, they are all completely useless and Mickey Mouse etc, but they are trophies. If we won a CWC I would most certainly count it as a trophy.

by Harmonica Mon May 21, 2012 6:12 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season
Would you claim Inter won UCL in 09-10?

In the 2009-10 season Inter won Serie A, CL, Coppa Italia, Italian Supercup, CWC - as far as I'm concerned

Edit: To be clear

In the 2010-11 season Inter won Coppa Italia...thats it

So lets summarize:

- When you qualify to Supercup, Uefa Supercup and FCWC, and which are played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, are they considered to be last season games?

- But when you qualify to UCL which is played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, it is considered to be part of that season?

For me that is illogical.

by the xcx Mon May 21, 2012 6:20 pm

jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season
Would you claim Inter won UCL in 09-10?

In the 2009-10 season Inter won Serie A, CL, Coppa Italia, Italian Supercup, CWC - as far as I'm concerned

Edit: To be clear

In the 2010-11 season Inter won Coppa Italia...thats it
So lets summarize:

- When you qualify to Supercup, Uefa Supercup and FCWC, and which are played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, are they considered to be last season games?

- But when you qualify to UCL which is played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, it is considered to be part of that season?

For me that is illogical.

Yes because to enter these competitions you have the be the champion on the previous one and its always harder to to win in UCL, CDR or La liga rather than CWC or Supercup.

by Swanhends Mon May 21, 2012 6:41 pm

jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season
Would you claim Inter won UCL in 09-10?

In the 2009-10 season Inter won Serie A, CL, Coppa Italia, Italian Supercup, CWC - as far as I'm concerned

Edit: To be clear

In the 2010-11 season Inter won Coppa Italia...thats it
So lets summarize:

- When you qualify to Supercup, Uefa Supercup and FCWC, and which are played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, are they considered to be last season games?

- But when you qualify to UCL which is played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, it is considered to be part of that season?

For me that is illogical.

Thats fine, I'm not exactly the trophy-police here...I'm just stating my personal opinion

If you think all trophies should be counted when they are won, thats fine..

But I do agree with PBW...you can't have it both ways

by Harmonica Mon May 21, 2012 6:43 pm

Nameless wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Definitely looks like a sextuple, and then nothing (so far) for me

I would never claim Inter won 3 titles last year because we won the Italian SuperCup and CWC... those were a continuation of the previous season, the Coppa Italia was our only trophy last season
Would you claim Inter won UCL in 09-10?

In the 2009-10 season Inter won Serie A, CL, Coppa Italia, Italian Supercup, CWC - as far as I'm concerned

Edit: To be clear

In the 2010-11 season Inter won Coppa Italia...thats it
So lets summarize:

- When you qualify to Supercup, Uefa Supercup and FCWC, and which are played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, are they considered to be last season games?

- But when you qualify to UCL which is played between next seasons games, directly affecting other competitions in that season, it is considered to be part of that season?

For me that is illogical.
Yes because to enter these competitions you have the be the champion on the previous one and its always harder to to win in UCL, CDR or La liga rather than CWC or Supercup.

To enter UCL you have to be a champion of a league, or in top 3-4 of top leagues, or a champion of UCL like Chelsea this season. Yes they are harder to win, but you can't quantify level of difficulty, and just say CDR is hard enough, and FCWC isn't.

by The Franchise Mon May 21, 2012 7:48 pm

Why cant people just talk about the game for a change, god damn yall are like children.

by Catracho Mon May 21, 2012 8:05 pm

"Yall are LIKE children" ???

Could've swore they ARE children. Laughing

Anywho, Athletic Bilbao will want to redeem themselves after that horror show in the EC Final against Atletico Madrid. Blood Sweat n Tears. Bilbao scrapes a win.

by Gomez83 Mon May 21, 2012 8:25 pm

S32TABLANCA wrote:The sectuple belongs to the calendar year of 2009. Not a season. At the same time, Barca have won three trophies this year. Yes, they are all completely useless and Mickey Mouse etc, but they are trophies. If we won a CWC I would most certainly count it as a trophy.

Finally a Real Madrid fan who doesn't talk out if his ass, I congratulate you for being the few.

by S32TABLANCA Mon May 21, 2012 9:34 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:
S32TABLANCA wrote:The sectuple belongs to the calendar year of 2009. Not a season. At the same time, Barca have won three trophies this year. Yes, they are all completely useless and Mickey Mouse etc, but they are trophies. If we won a CWC I would most certainly count it as a trophy.

Spanish Supercopa, European Supercup, Club World Cup. Three.
By year, I meant season Razz

Gomez83 wrote:Finally a Real Madrid fan who doesn't talk out if his ass, I congratulate you for being the few.

Um, for all it's worth, thank you.

by The Franchise Mon May 21, 2012 11:30 pm

Catracho wrote:"Yall are LIKE children" ???

Could've swore they ARE children.

Anywho, Athletic Bilbao will want to redeem themselves after that horror show in the EC Final against Atletico Madrid. Blood Sweat n Tears. Bilbao scrapes a win.

They are? Other than nameless being "14" which he isnt, I think everyone else was over 20.

by Zealous Mon May 21, 2012 11:41 pm

Jiopsi has that effect on people. He's single handedly derailed every thread he has ever posted in lol

Anyway should be a great game, really hoping for a repeat of the San Mames game which was one of the games of the season for me.

Aupa Athletic for obvious reasons Razz

Here's hoping Barca have zeru tituli in the calender year 2012 eco smile

by vizkosity Tue May 22, 2012 12:51 am

CWC is a joke

by Zero Tue May 22, 2012 3:00 am

Glad to be back on topic.

Hope Bilbao wins this one. They may want to avenge the EL loss against the almighty Falcao.

As for Bilbao fans, they may want to get a map to get to the Mestalla or clean their ears. :coffee:

by SchinnerC Tue May 22, 2012 9:11 am

Both teams fighting to redeem their poor end of the season.

Titilona to win it. Hopefully by a small margin though, anything more than 2 goals could crush The Basque's fragile state of mind after the EL Final.

by juanamo Tue May 22, 2012 10:23 am

Zealous wrote:Jiopsi has that affect on people. He's single handedly derailed every thread he has ever posted in lol

Anyway should be a great game, really hoping for a repeat of the San Mames game which was one of the games of the season for me.

Aupa Athletic for obvious reasons

Here's hoping Barca have zeru tituli in the calender year 2012

here is to hope Guardiola finishes on a high note. he deserves to win the last title.

by Zealous Tue May 22, 2012 10:58 am

Bilbao deserve it too, plus it would mean more to Athletic.

The final will be at the Calderon I think.

by guest7 Tue May 22, 2012 12:32 pm

Bilbao will lose, they honestly suck

Their backline is terrible. Just terrible. This will be a 5-0 beating

by Le Samourai Tue May 22, 2012 12:38 pm

Alves is out, less pressure on the left back....who is the weakest link.

by S32TABLANCA Tue May 22, 2012 10:34 pm

The Franchise wrote:
They are? Other than nameless being "14" which he isnt, I think everyone else was over 20.

Got applauded by a Barca fan for being reasonable anyway :dance:

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