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Post by Lex Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:17 am

So, ended up not getting any tonight (she had to finish off coursework) and........nope, i still couldn't give a f*ck about this

Thank you RVP for putting Terry on his knees. Thank you RVP for that smile towards Krul. Thank you RVP for that injury time winner against 'Pool. Thank you RVP for that equalizer against Barcelona. Thank you RVP for what you did for us last season, helping us secure 3rd and, once again, finishing above Scum

Now bugger off

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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:05 am

arsenal players should feel glad that they have fans that love them and the second they want to leave they are officially dead to their former fans..

and people say madrid fans are fickle- at least when players leave we dont black list them (except of course they go to barcelona)

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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:08 am

we don't blacklist all the players that leave us. just the scummy ones
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:09 am

vanDEEZ wrote:arsenal players should feel glad that they have fans that love them and the second they want to leave they are officially dead to their former fans..

and people say madrid fans are fickle- at least when players leave we dont black list them (except of course they go to barcelona)

LOL, you have to be joking here, when players leave Madrid is usually involves a gun to their head.
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Post by Red Alert Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:10 am

He'll leave but you'll make a better team out of it by improving in other positions.

No need to turn your back at him. He's been at the club during dark years of your club and still played with his heart and did tremendously well considering he carried you guys last season. All players want to win trophies, that's all they're remembered for at the end of the day. If he still hasn't negotiated finances it's simply because Arsene has told him he ain't going to title challenge or go for any cups.

Still a class player, and I doubt he has the disrespect to leave to a rivalry club. Even though I want him at LFC. Wink
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Post by Twoism Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:17 am

vanDEEZ wrote:arsenal players should feel glad that they have fans that love them and the second they want to leave they are officially dead to their former fans..

and people say madrid fans are fickle- at least when players leave we dont black list them (except of course they go to barcelona)

Like I said in Arsenal section, his statement was wrong timing and can be considered dick move. So what if he's determined to leave, we the fans & the club are kinda prepared for it, but then just shut your mouth. I mean even the club was surprised by how soon he came out. Now all other clubs can play hard ball with us all days long and eventually he will leave as he wish for peanuts.

Madrid players leave because they don't have enough playing time or not wanted, totally different. If Ronaldo leaves tomorrow for Barcelona citing ambition, GL shit storm ensured.
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Post by Red Alert Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:22 am

It's not really wrong timing is it?

It's the start of the window. Wenger has now 2 months to replace him.
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Post by Twoism Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:26 am

Thing is Wenger already replaced him with Giroud and Podolski so it's matter of selling him for good money and use it to enforce other areas. His statement just significantly lower that "good money" for Arsenal.
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Post by the xcx Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:26 am

This so thread is fickle as it is. What do you think the fans of Lille or Köln felt like when Podolski or Gervinho was departing?
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:32 am

Raptorgunner wrote:
vanDEEZ wrote:arsenal players should feel glad that they have fans that love them and the second they want to leave they are officially dead to their former fans..

and people say madrid fans are fickle- at least when players leave we dont black list them (except of course they go to barcelona)

LOL, you have to be joking here, when players leave Madrid is usually involves a gun to their head.

raul, guti, garay, momo, vdv, rvn, robinho, mata, beckham, cassano, ronaldo, cambiasso, seedorf..

i could keep going if youd like.

id also like to add that there is not a single player on the current line up that i would feel the sort of hate that you arsenal fans commonly feel when a player leaves, if he were to leave, not even close.

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Post by Lex Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:38 am

huntelaar.....

wait, we don't mention him
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Post by kiranr Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:40 am


Wasn't Van Persie offered a 150k per week contract?
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:41 am

rvp, cesc, nasri, clichy, adebayor, toure, cole, hleb, flamini..

im starting to see a trend...

all left, all immediately hated..

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Post by SchinnerC Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:42 am

Enough Butthurt already. How about some RVP appreciation?

From a neutral point of view, Thank You for giving me pure footballing joy when you scored that amazing volley vs Carlton! The celebration after it is as sincere as it gets. Pure Passion, Pure Inspiration! :bow:
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:45 am

vanDEEZ wrote:rvp, cesc, nasri, clichy, adebayor, toure, cole, hleb, flamini..

im starting to see a trend...

all left, all immediately hated..

clichy, toure, hleb, cesc aren't hated. Rest are hated because of valid reasons.
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:47 am

Nameless wrote:This so thread is fickle as it is. What do you think the fans of Lille or Köln felt like when Podolski or Gervinho was departing?

Yes, they got betrayed by Podolski because he spent 8 years partially on the treatment table and when he performed exceptionally for a season he demanded a move. Rolling Eyes


think before you post something

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Post by Lex Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:49 am

Eboue, Traore, Henry, Seaman, Campbell, Lauren, Keown

All moved on, all still loved by fans

hmm
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Post by Le Samourai Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:53 am

Even I can see Arsenal fans perspective here.

> While I completely disagree with them on the Nasri matter as I feel he owes them nothing and he owes Wenger nothing as the developments Wenger actually tried to make in converting him to a CM and a central player really did him a diservice when he way enjoying great form on the wings, Van Persie is a whole different case.

=> He goes there as a kid, Wenger completely revolutionizes his game converting him from a Winger to a CF.

>Wenger strains through all the disciplinary issues and the yearly injuries for 6 of his 8 years there, develops him as a player as good as anyone in the world possibly could.

>Willing to make him their highest paid player, makes him captain.

All that so he can finally, finally fulfill his potential and have that 1 year where he transitions from a above average to truly world class player....only to leave the following year for money after they go out in the transfer market and for the first time in half a decade show an inkling of initiative?

That...is just a disgrace.


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Post by kiranr Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:53 am

Can't anyone tell me if Van Persie was offered a 150k per week contract?

i don't see much of a problem with RVP deciding to move on. Players have been very loyal to Arsenal only to be offered 1 year contracts when they hit 30. If RVP wants to leave for trophies and money, i see no issue with it.
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Post by vizkosity Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:56 am

wait, since when leaving arsenal when you are a good player is a crime/disgrace?
if anything, if it wasn't for RVP. Good luck getting your 3rd place last season
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Post by Twoism Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:57 am

Le Samourai wrote:Even I can see Arsenal fans perspective here.

> While I completely disagree with them on the Nasri matter as I feel he owes them nothing and he owes Wenger nothing Van Persie is a whole different case.

=> He goes there as a kid, Wenger completely revolutionizes his game converting him from a Winger to a CF.

>Wenger strains through all the disciplinary issues and the yearly injuries for 6 of his 8 years there, develops him as a player as good as anyone in the world possibly could.

>Willing to make him their highest paid player, makes him captain.

All that so he can finally, finally fulfill his potential and have that 1 year where he transitions from a above average to truly world class player....only to leave the following year for money after they go out in the transfer market and for the first time in half a decade show an inkling of initiative?

That...is just a disgrace.

QUOTE for truth.
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Post by Lex Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:00 am

Actually, Koscielny scored the winner against West Brom to clinch 3rd

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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:04 am

RealGunner wrote:
vanDEEZ wrote:rvp, cesc, nasri, clichy, adebayor, toure, cole, hleb, flamini..

im starting to see a trend...

all left, all immediately hated..

clichy, toure, hleb, cesc aren't hated. Rest are hated because of valid reasons.

all were berated on this very forum, all were claimed by arsenal fans to be whores for money told to f* off etc.

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t2657-what-made-invincible-clichy-turn-into-a-traitor-money?highlight=clichy

maybe not cesc to the degree of the rest but there was certainly distain for him and barca (which im okay with)

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Post by vizkosity Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:08 am

Lex wrote:Actually, Koscielny scored the winner against West Brom to clinch 3rd


but those 30 something goals aren't counted for nothing
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Post by Lex Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:11 am

vizkosity wrote:but those 30 something goals aren't counted for nothing
30+ goals that were created by the likes of Gervinho, Theo, Song, Arteta....

Yeah, he sure carried us
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Post by Red Alert Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:17 am

He sure did carry you last year...
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