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Post by iNFINITY9910 Wed May 09, 2012 8:25 pm

gg wp, im gonna get my sleep Very Happy

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Post by animal.crackers Wed May 09, 2012 8:28 pm

Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 09, 2012 8:44 pm

animal.crackers wrote:Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.

Are you willing to pay 50 million? and yes i see no reason why he cant.
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Post by Raptorgunner Wed May 09, 2012 8:44 pm

I just have this feeling that Man City will pay big money and will lure Falcao to City next year.
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Post by Raptorgunner Wed May 09, 2012 8:45 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
animal.crackers wrote:Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.

Are you willing to pay 50 million? and yes i see no reason why he cant.

No way they will sell him for 50m, I think nothing less than 60m.
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Post by punkfusion1992 Wed May 09, 2012 8:51 pm

animal.crackers wrote:Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.

he plays with Adrian... and they form a pretty beast partnership
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Post by guest7 Wed May 09, 2012 9:19 pm

RIP Tiki-Taka 2008-2012
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Post by LeBéninois Wed May 09, 2012 9:23 pm

Se7en wrote:RIP Tiki-Taka 2008-2012

Euhhh Suspect ??
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Post by guest7 Wed May 09, 2012 9:44 pm

Did Javi Martinez cry?

Poor Bilbao, they really wanted that trophy... They were crying Sad
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Post by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 9:46 pm

Moles tyranny must end :X:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 09, 2012 9:49 pm

Better luck next year Bilbao, they had a hell of a run Very Happy
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed May 09, 2012 10:02 pm

gratz to Atletico.
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Post by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 10:07 pm

Se7en wrote:RIP Tiki-Taka 2008-2012
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 09, 2012 10:12 pm

For the first time in the EL Bielsa has well and truly flopped.

-He played the much-maligned 4-3-3.

-Didn't play Javi in the midfield and opted to play him as CB sacrificing Ekiza or San Jose's position, thus leaving Iturraspe alone.

-Played a high line with Amorbieta

-Restricted Llorente's signiture False 9 role and played Susaeta as a forward alongside him on the RIGHT while De Marcos on the left. Llorente is supposed to be isolated with Iker supported him, De Marcos behind and Suseata on the left as a WINGER.

-Pushed Ander waaay to deep.

-Once again, played an all to unnecessarily high line

- Screwed up the 2nd half by removing Aurtunexte and Iturraspe for Inigo and Ibai aka his worst substitution decision this season.

-Brought in Toquero for Ander as the former was NOT needed at the time.


He is a brilliant and imo a world class manager. But how stubborn he is reflects on why Athletic have failed to succeed in the league despite the CDR and EL successes.

Nonetheless, he was brought in for a long term project and even exceeded expectations with the youngest side in the Liga. If he sticks to what works best, top 4 will be a cinch and the CDR final should be brought home.

P.S if anyone who believes this is Tiki Taka is just :facepalm:
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Post by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 10:17 pm

If he has to play a 4-3-3 he might as well drop Ander....because it's pointless.
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Post by che Wed May 09, 2012 10:19 pm

bilbao... i am disappoint...
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Post by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 10:27 pm

Bielsa failed big. He has to show some adaptability.
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Post by Zealous Wed May 09, 2012 10:33 pm

Finals have to be won not played.

Bilbao just couldn't take advantage of their chances. I didn't feel like there were large tactical flaws.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 09, 2012 10:36 pm

S32TABLANCA wrote:Bielsa failed big. He has to show some adaptability.

-He played the much-maligned 4-3-3.

-Didn't play Javi in the midfield and opted to play him as CB sacrificing Ekiza or San Jose's position, thus leaving Iturraspe alone.

-Played a high line with Amorbieta

-Restricted Llorente's signiture False 9 role and played Susaeta as a forward alongside him on the RIGHT while De Marcos on the left. Llorente is supposed to be isolated with Iker supported him, De Marcos behind and Suseata on the left as a WINGER.

-Pushed Ander waaay to deep.

-Once again, played an all to unnecessarily high line

- Screwed up the 2nd half by removing Aurtunexte and Iturraspe for Inigo and Ibai aka his worst substitution decision this season.

-Brought in Toquero for Ander as the former was NOT needed at the time.


He is a brilliant and imo a world class manager. But how stubborn he is reflects on why Athletic have failed to succeed in the league despite the CDR and EL successes.

Nonetheless, he was brought in for a long term project and even exceeded expectations with the youngest side in the Liga. If he sticks to what works best, top 4 will be a cinch and the CDR final should be brought home.


read the above again.

Adaptability? LOL WHAT?

Bielsa's problem is that he adapts and changes FAR to much.

His problem is that he is over-exploiting the experimentation time given to him when the system that works best is superb.

Its as if Mourinho keeps deviating from his usual formation and for instance, plays Madrid 4-4-2 with CR on the left and Ramos as DM etc etc.

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Post by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 10:48 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
S32TABLANCA wrote:Bielsa failed big. He has to show some adaptability.

-He played the much-maligned 4-3-3.

-Didn't play Javi in the midfield and opted to play him as CB sacrificing Ekiza or San Jose's position, thus leaving Iturraspe alone.

-Played a high line with Amorbieta

-Restricted Llorente's signiture False 9 role and played Susaeta as a forward alongside him on the RIGHT while De Marcos on the left. Llorente is supposed to be isolated with Iker supported him, De Marcos behind and Suseata on the left as a WINGER.

-Pushed Ander waaay to deep.

-Once again, played an all to unnecessarily high line

- Screwed up the 2nd half by removing Aurtunexte and Iturraspe for Inigo and Ibai aka his worst substitution decision this season.

-Brought in Toquero for Ander as the former was NOT needed at the time.


He is a brilliant and imo a world class manager. But how stubborn he is reflects on why Athletic have failed to succeed in the league despite the CDR and EL successes.

Nonetheless, he was brought in for a long term project and even exceeded expectations with the youngest side in the Liga. If he sticks to what works best, top 4 will be a cinch and the CDR final should be brought home.


read the above again.

Adaptability? LOL WHAT?

Bielsa's problem is that he adapts and changes FAR to much.

His problem is that he is over-exploiting the experimentation time given to him when the system that works best is superb.

Its as if Mourinho keeps deviating from his usual formation and for instance, plays Madrid 4-4-2 with CR on the left and Ramos as DM etc etc.


What? I agree with your points. Adaptability isnt changing things up, you know. It's changing things up and SUCCEEDING.
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Post by Zealous Wed May 09, 2012 11:27 pm

IS..... IS THAT WHO I THINK IT IS??!!!??
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 11:29 pm

Indeed :vagi:
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Post by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 11:30 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Of Mattress makers and Lions - Atletico Madrid vs Athletic Bilbao - Page 4 1336594264_extras_noticia_foton_7_1

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

His true colours :coffee:

Hala post the vid.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 11:30 pm

But he is retired now :vagi:
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Post by che Wed May 09, 2012 11:32 pm

that explains so much...

though on second look, wasn't his harline like... two feet further back when he was active?


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