Re: Lukasz Piszczek - Borussia Dortmund #26

by Forza Tue May 08, 2012 2:06 pm

Great player... but why do Madrid, of all clubs, need a RB?

by VanDeezNuts Tue May 08, 2012 2:52 pm

Forza Rossoneri wrote:Great player... but why do Madrid, of all clubs, need a RB?

because arbeloa, though he has been really good towards the end of the season has been incredibly unreliable for 80% of the season.

hes getting older, slowing down (even more if you thought it wasnt possible), losing concentration at times etc.

lass at RB is a no go, coentrao at rb hypothesis was a bust, albiol is albiol. we need a dependable athletic rb. piszcek seems like he fits

by The Messiah Tue May 08, 2012 5:38 pm

He must not follow in Nuri footstep.

by Guest Tue May 08, 2012 11:00 pm

laSexta now claiming that the talks with Lucasz Piszczek are at an advanced stage and is expected to join for €10 million.

Here I was thinking it was just rumours and gossip.....

by Le Samourai Tue May 08, 2012 11:07 pm

I've seen him in 3 games all year, I believe at 1 point I asked Nick about him....he was great in all 3.

Scored an amazing goal against Shalke.

Make no mistake though,if we sign him then our midfield needs to get it's act together and push forwad because our line needs to be as high as humanly possible with 2 ultra attacking fullbacks.

Also....Di Maria really needs someone to overlap.

Gets trapped too often because of his lack of a right foot.

by matpol Tue May 08, 2012 11:09 pm

Łukasz Piszczek - from average striker to crap right winger then to a good right back. Thumbs up

I don't think he will sign for RM, but if he does then he will be first Polish that can regularly play in RM side, as I don't believe Arbeloa is much better than him, so Piszczek will get a lot of games. Dudek was benchwarmer, Piszczek can be value member of a squad.

He may end up as Altintop and Sahin as well though Laughing

by S32TABLANCA Tue May 08, 2012 11:12 pm

Ideal- Carvajal
Expectation- Aziplcueta
Reality- Pisczinazo Neutral

by Guest Tue May 08, 2012 11:13 pm

matpol wrote:Łukasz Piszczek - from average striker to crap right winger then to a good right back.

I don't think he will sign for RM, but if he does then he will be first Polish that can regularly play in RM side, as I don't believe Arbeloa is much better than him, so Piszczek will get a lot of games. Dudek was benchwarmer, Piszczek can be value member of a squad.

He may end up as Altintop and Sahin as well though

As long as he doesn't miss the pre-season and he plays well, it should be fine.

But very weird

by Le Samourai Tue May 08, 2012 11:14 pm

S32TABLANCA wrote:Ideal- Carvajal
Expectation- Aziplcueta
Reality- Pisczinazo

Apzi will block Carjaval if he ever is good enough (he isn't right now, relies alot on being physically better than basically anyone in his division)

This guy won't.

by S32TABLANCA Tue May 08, 2012 11:30 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
S32TABLANCA wrote:Ideal- Carvajal
Expectation- Aziplcueta
Reality- Pisczinazo

Apzi will block Carjaval if he ever is good enough (he isn't right now, relies alot on being physically better than basically anyone in his division)

This guy won't.

You're telling me that this guy, even if he comes, is NOT the long term solution to our RB problem?

So why get him?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 08, 2012 11:41 pm

Shows how under appreciated non-bayern bundesliga players are Laughing

The way you guys are talking is like he is on the level of Danny Simpson Laughing

He's a wonderfully complete RB who can do it all and is in the same breath of the likes of Debuchy and Azpilicueta but because he plays in the Bundesliga he's ridiculously underrated Laughing

He would be a great signing IMO and for 10m a f*ckin steal if BVB accept that they are nuts.

by Le Samourai Tue May 08, 2012 11:48 pm

I don't know if he isn't a long term solution.

I think at the very least he has 3-4years...at which point Carjaval will be 23-24 which is a good age.

But we can't buy Apzi and expect to have Carjaval later on.

by justdoit_ Tue May 08, 2012 11:58 pm

Who the f is Carjaval

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 12:00 am

Dortmund got him for free, so from their logic it's good value.

It's only normal not to rate players you have never heard about.

by StrugaRock Wed May 09, 2012 12:30 am

justdoit_ wrote:Who the f is Carjaval

Real Madrid Castilla player

by Sushi Master Wed May 09, 2012 1:30 am

It seems extremely sketchy Dortmund being tight ass, cockblocking and beating Bayern to signings... then to suddenly sell one of their key players, in a position where quality is seriously lacking worldwide.

I would understand if it were Kagawa or something who'd be free, but they have no reason at all to sell Piszczek.

by rwo power Wed May 09, 2012 10:36 am

Dortmund's manager Michael Zorc says Lukasz Piszczek won't leave.

Source: http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/568725/artikel_zorc-zu-piszczek_weder-real-noch-rewe.html

by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 6:07 pm

Le Samourai wrote:I don't know if he isn't a long term solution.

I think at the very least he has 3-4years...at which point Carjaval will be 23-24 which is a good age.

But we can't buy Apzi and expect to have Carjaval later on.

I dont. I would accept either Azpi or Carvajal as our long term right back. In fact, both of them would be fantastic solutions (although of course my heart is with Carvajal).

However, I have never even seen Azpi linked with us in the media. We are basing all this on Nick's questionably reliable 'sources' hmm

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 6:10 pm

S32TABLANCA wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:I don't know if he isn't a long term solution.

I think at the very least he has 3-4years...at which point Carjaval will be 23-24 which is a good age.

But we can't buy Apzi and expect to have Carjaval later on.

I dont. I would accept either Azpi or Carvajal as our long term right back. In fact, both of them would be fantastic solutions (although of course my heart is with Carvajal).

However, I have never even seen Azpi linked with us in the media. We are basing all this on Nick's questionably reliable 'sources'

WTF are you talking about, i never said that we were linked with Azpilicueta or that we would sign him :facepalm:

by guest7 Wed May 09, 2012 6:15 pm

nick just said we should get him, we were never linked to him looool

by Adit Wed May 09, 2012 6:26 pm

I dont like him at all. From what i have watched he is good on the ball but just ok defensively . He flopped alongside entire BVB back four in the CL . If we are going for a RB i would rather get Azpilicueta who i think is solid defensively . Being Spanish will help too.

by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 6:33 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
S32TABLANCA wrote:
Le Samourai wrote:I don't know if he isn't a long term solution.

I think at the very least he has 3-4years...at which point Carjaval will be 23-24 which is a good age.

But we can't buy Apzi and expect to have Carjaval later on.

I dont. I would accept either Azpi or Carvajal as our long term right back. In fact, both of them would be fantastic solutions (although of course my heart is with Carvajal).

However, I have never even seen Azpi linked with us in the media. We are basing all this on Nick's questionably reliable 'sources'

WTF are you talking about, i never said that we were linked with Azpilicueta or that we would sign him

Maybe 'hype' would be a better word. Razz

Se7en wrote:nick just said we should get him, we were never linked to him looool

Thats what I said :vagi:

by Doc Wed May 09, 2012 7:39 pm

Considering how the BL followers rate him, I guess he is good. Then again, Serie A followers rated Zapata and he was absolutely awful (both as a CB and FB).

Anyway, I generally don't take on anyone who says (insert player) is not for sale so a "wait and see" approach is being adopted.

by rwo power Wed May 09, 2012 7:45 pm

Doc wrote:Anyway, I generally don't take on anyone who says (insert player) is not for sale so a "wait and see" approach is being adopted.

Even if Uli Hoeneß says it? Laughing

by Doc Wed May 09, 2012 7:47 pm

He maybe some exception to the rule (although I feel if one meets Bayern's asking price, he'll consider it)...

by rwo power Wed May 09, 2012 8:04 pm

Doc wrote:He maybe some exception to the rule (although I feel if one meets Bayern's asking price, he'll consider it)...

That only works if Bayern don't consider a player unsellable. And they usually do concerning their core players. As things look atm, Hans-Joachim Watze of Dortmund wants to follow Uli Hoeneß' example, at least as long a player is contracted long enough and doesn't have an exit clause.

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