Re: if this were to be sent to Galliani

by giovanni_milan Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:06 am

Who better to lead this team right now? they can all put solid performances is rested properly.... obviously we need better, but dumping them to the side is not the milan way... we need players and role models like these in the dressing room to help usher in a new generation, and only then can we say goodbye

by Guest Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:39 am

giovanni_milan wrote:i cant beleive you guys want ambrosini, seedorf and gattuso out.... show some faith thee guys have played so well for us. Also you have to consider those guys will only leave when they want to go, after all they are our captains and crucial in the locker room

i understand how u feel mate. ambrosini gattuso seedorf nesta they are our legends and have given so much. not all will leave, but lets hope for the sake of future some will leave. some of our players, their career has spanned way back since 1995, and has stayed in milan for almost a decade, while family is important, its also important to look forward to securing future. we can count on ambrosini seedorf gattuso nesta and other veterans but they cant keep up with the whole season and champions league, as proven numerous times.

merkel and strasser has done awful lot and grown in season long loan experience, it would be nice to see them blend in senior team and get more games. we cant just halt the progress of youth just for the sake of our veterans so lets hope we can see our own home grown players, plus new players coming in .

i also dont want all of them to go, primarily nesta, van bommel, seedorf *seedorf is the only midfielder we have atm who has technical brilliance than anyone in the midfield department, we need player of his kind and characteristics in market obviously, whether galliani and braida has realized this we have no idea, but lets hope they have done their homework.

but yea i mean definitely some should leave. i always think that if we remain unchanged, our progress will remain unchanged.

i understand u giovanni, these guys are of one kind , their quality and professionalism cant be bought, so thats why its so hard even for me to think they should be let go but, i also fear for the future.

by Dante Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:45 pm

TonyDaBeast wrote:
Dante13 wrote:
TonyDaBeast wrote:here is my example:

Squad
1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
60 Piscitelli Goalkeeper
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
77 Luca Antonini Defender
30 Didac Vila Defender
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
15 Djamel Mesbah Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender
33 Thiago Silva Defender
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
?? Kwadho Asamoah Midfielder
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder
[color=blue]57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder
?? AM OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL)
14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
?? ST OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL) SOMEBODY IS THE STYLE OF MAXI BUT WITH WAYYYYY MORE TALENT
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker i love you so much but its reality
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
70 Robinho Striker
99 Antonio Cassano Striker

you suggest 11 players should leave Milan . 11. You do realise that it's almost impossible to let go of 11 players & all in one summer . Even if we could , it would only harm the team rather benefit from it. And you replace them with 4(2 unknown so far....) new players and 6 youngsters.!! Half the team wouldn't know each other .. no real chemistry or team base , just become a new M.City. The core of Milan and our most experienced players in Gattuso , Ambrosini ,Inzaghi and Seedorf will be gone and will be replaced by Strasser , Valoti , Ganz and Cristante?!

In other words , your "plan" is pure BS.
If it were to happen , we would fight for 4th-5th-6th place in the standings and Ibra and very possibly Silva might have left next summer because of bad project.

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You don't built a team to dominate Europe or to win Barcelona, you built a team to win the league and become stronger each year , because of a certain project that suits the goals of the team and the abilities of the team.
If the CL is on the cards at some point , then you go for it. No team manifuctured a dream team on paper and went on to win it , none. ( Pes and Fifa doesn't count )

u should read before comment but u dont look very smart right now

red = LEAVE
blue = LOAN OUT to another Serie A team or involve in player swap transfers wtv..

where does it says im bringing in youngsters??? valoti? cristante? r u serious?? u think im gonna promote a 16 yr old cristante to take the place of a seedorf lets say? do i look like a fkin retard to u or what?

green = NEW PLAYERS ARRIVING. get it now?

we have a gigantic squad so yes even if 11 leave and only 4 arrive whats the problem?? the 11 that i wanna see leave are either very old and gave everything they got and we dont need them anymore or they suck.

gattuso? love him but finished
seedorf? same thing
inzaghi? my idol but 39 yrs
ambro? 35, finished
bonera? sucks
mesbah? sucks
roma? who cares
zambrotta? loved him but is done unfortunatly
Lopez? sucks... waste from the beginning
all theres left is flamini and muntari, say we keep even 1 of the 2, its still 10 players that got to go. is my plan still dumb now if u look at it that way?

abbiati,amelia,piscitelli,abate,antonini,nesta,silva,yepes,mexes,NEW CB,Didac Vila, NEW LB, van bommel,aquilani,boateng,nocerino,emanuelson,merkel, NEW DM flamini OR muntari, NEW AM, ibra,pato,robinho,el shaarawy,cassano, NEW FW

and that = to 27 players.. perfect team, with the new additions should more than imrpove our starting 11. excellent depth everywhere incase on injuries or players needing rest. and we got rid of all kinds of deadweight and contracts.

does it still look pure BS Mr.Dante?[/quote]

Yeap , still BS in my book Laughing

Despite the fact that i did make a mistake with the blue underlined players , doesn't change a lot. Such a major overhaul in a team , changes everything to worse rather than the best.

You don't have a clue what Milan needs or is better to do in order to get better, it's obvious. You offload 11 players like it's PES2012 and you expect some signings like it's a certainty, that ,worthy and adequate enough players will be found for sure.

4-5 new players , combined with 11 leaving , plus some of them are our most seasoned players will make us lose identity and begin all over and if the new players who will arrive fail , then we will have a season like Inter
s...

Even if i accept the fact that 11 players should be sold , it's almost impossible to make it happen , due to lots of reasons , teams interested , money , replacements , contract issues , player's negative on accepting the new team .. i can go on all day

To add more than enough about your plan, when teams offload 11 players , they don't want to dominate Europe , more possibly they ve been relegated recently Laughing

in conclusion , it's BS in my opinion and you wanted to read opinions.
why go mad if it's a good one :coffee:

by red&blacklegion Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:52 pm

giovanni_milan wrote:Who better to lead this team right now? they can all put solid performances is rested properly.... obviously we need better, but dumping them to the side is not the milan way... we need players and role models like these in the dressing room to help usher in a new generation, and only then can we say goodbye

Gattuso can stay ,but goddamit man we are a team not a kindergarten and I dont see ur new gen coming along with these guys playing forever.

by Milantildeath Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:36 pm

You can't build a new generation in one transfer window

by TonyDaBeast Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:41 pm

Dante13 wrote:
TonyDaBeast wrote:
Dante13 wrote:
TonyDaBeast wrote:here is my example:

Squad
1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
60 Piscitelli Goalkeeper
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
77 Luca Antonini Defender
30 Didac Vila Defender
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
15 Djamel Mesbah Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender
33 Thiago Silva Defender
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
?? Kwadho Asamoah Midfielder
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder
[color=blue]57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder
?? AM OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL)
14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
?? ST OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL) SOMEBODY IS THE STYLE OF MAXI BUT WITH WAYYYYY MORE TALENT
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker i love you so much but its reality
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
70 Robinho Striker
99 Antonio Cassano Striker

you suggest 11 players should leave Milan . 11. You do realise that it's almost impossible to let go of 11 players & all in one summer . Even if we could , it would only harm the team rather benefit from it. And you replace them with 4(2 unknown so far....) new players and 6 youngsters.!! Half the team wouldn't know each other .. no real chemistry or team base , just become a new M.City. The core of Milan and our most experienced players in Gattuso , Ambrosini ,Inzaghi and Seedorf will be gone and will be replaced by Strasser , Valoti , Ganz and Cristante?!

In other words , your "plan" is pure BS.
If it were to happen , we would fight for 4th-5th-6th place in the standings and Ibra and very possibly Silva might have left next summer because of bad project.

-

You don't built a team to dominate Europe or to win Barcelona, you built a team to win the league and become stronger each year , because of a certain project that suits the goals of the team and the abilities of the team.
If the CL is on the cards at some point , then you go for it. No team manifuctured a dream team on paper and went on to win it , none. ( Pes and Fifa doesn't count )

u should read before comment but u dont look very smart right now

red = LEAVE
blue = LOAN OUT to another Serie A team or involve in player swap transfers wtv..

where does it says im bringing in youngsters??? valoti? cristante? r u serious?? u think im gonna promote a 16 yr old cristante to take the place of a seedorf lets say? do i look like a fkin retard to u or what?

green = NEW PLAYERS ARRIVING. get it now?

we have a gigantic squad so yes even if 11 leave and only 4 arrive whats the problem?? the 11 that i wanna see leave are either very old and gave everything they got and we dont need them anymore or they suck.

gattuso? love him but finished
seedorf? same thing
inzaghi? my idol but 39 yrs
ambro? 35, finished
bonera? sucks
mesbah? sucks
roma? who cares
zambrotta? loved him but is done unfortunatly
Lopez? sucks... waste from the beginning
all theres left is flamini and muntari, say we keep even 1 of the 2, its still 10 players that got to go. is my plan still dumb now if u look at it that way?

abbiati,amelia,piscitelli,abate,antonini,nesta,silva,yepes,mexes,NEW CB,Didac Vila, NEW LB, van bommel,aquilani,boateng,nocerino,emanuelson,merkel, NEW DM flamini OR muntari, NEW AM, ibra,pato,robinho,el shaarawy,cassano, NEW FW

and that = to 27 players.. perfect team, with the new additions should more than imrpove our starting 11. excellent depth everywhere incase on injuries or players needing rest. and we got rid of all kinds of deadweight and contracts.

does it still look pure BS Mr.Dante?

Yeap , still BS in my book Laughing

Despite the fact that i did make a mistake with the blue underlined players , doesn't change a lot. Such a major overhaul in a team , changes everything to worse rather than the best.

You don't have a clue what Milan needs or is better to do in order to get better, it's obvious. You offload 11 players like it's PES2012 and you expect some signings like it's a certainty, that ,worthy and adequate enough players will be found for sure.

4-5 new players , combined with 11 leaving , plus some of them are our most seasoned players will make us lose identity and begin all over and if the new players who will arrive fail , then we will have a season like Inter
s...

Even if i accept the fact that 11 players should be sold , it's almost impossible to make it happen , due to lots of reasons , teams interested , money , replacements , contract issues , player's negative on accepting the new team .. i can go on all day

To add more than enough about your plan, when teams offload 11 players , they don't want to dominate Europe , more possibly they ve been relegated recently Laughing

in conclusion , it's BS in my opinion and you wanted to read opinions.
why go mad if it's a good one :coffee:

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an opinion is an opinion and this stays between us, not like as if Milan leaders will actually read this. but ur opinion is actually the complete opposite of a good one.. i dont care what kind of ''status'' u got here, but to me in doesnt mean much. i wont let people like u tell me i dont know my shit or that my opinions r BS. who the *bleep* r u to tell me that mr president? Razz

when u think ur at a point of ''legendary status'' on a football forum on the internet well i think u should start getting a life my friend cuz it really doesnt impress me

by Dante Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:49 pm

it's the first time in my life that i pwn someone in a conversation and in return he calls me a legend . thanks , i guess.. Laughing

Back on topic , you couldn't possibly answer to what i said in my latest post and you got personal . Actually , it shows who should get a life... :matrix:

In conclusion .. I said all i had to say about this plan of yours with a proper manner. I can't disagree more and you don't have any arguement other than i am a forum legend Laughing

by Milantildeath Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:57 pm

With all the news I've been seeing as of late. Right now this second I'd say get Montolivo, Balotelli, Ogbonna and Kolorov. Sell whoever you need to make this happen except Thiago Silva, Zlatan, Prince, EL92, Cassano and Abate.

by Milan31 Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:01 am

Milantildeath wrote:With all the news I've been seeing as of late. Right now this second I'd say get Montolivo, Balotelli, Ogbonna and Kolorov. Sell whoever you need to make this happen except Thiago Silva, Zlatan, Prince, EL92, Cassano and Abate.

agreed!

by BiasedMilanFan3 Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:09 am

Kolarov would be a good purchase. He won't come cheap though. If we couldn't get Tevez, a player that didn't even want, I can't see us getting Kolarov in a fair priced deal.

And with Balotelli. At first, I was thinking something like "He's a good player, If we can put up with Ibra, we can put up with Mario". But with Ibra, we give him this label mostly because of what he says in the media. Yeah, he gets red cards but that's once (twice maximum) a season.

Balotelli however is just a f**king idiot on and off the pitch. His ego gets in the way of his judgement and you'll see him making a fool of himself every time he turns around.

Don't want him at Milan. Considering how City will charge some outrageous price for him, we could spend that money somewhere else on an actual professional football player.

by Milan31 Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:27 am

BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:Kolarov would be a good purchase. He won't come cheap though. If we couldn't get Tevez, a player that didn't even want, I can't see us getting Kolarov in a fair priced deal.

And with Balotelli. At first, I was thinking something like "He's a good player, If we can put up with Ibra, we can put up with Mario". But with Ibra, we give him this label mostly because of what he says in the media. Yeah, he gets red cards but that's once (twice maximum) a season.

Balotelli however is just a f**king idiot on and off the pitch. His ego gets in the way of his judgement and you'll see him making a fool of himself every time he turns around.

Don't want him at Milan. Considering how City will charge some outrageous price for him, we could spend that money somewhere else on an actual professional football player.

It will be very hard to get any players from City, they expect to gain money from the players they sell but they bought them at outrageous prices to begin with, so I agree. I don't see any deals with City happening any time soon.

by Cotes Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:43 am

Flamini was still at Milan? o_0

by Forza Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:51 am

Cotes wrote:Flamini ~~was~~ is still at Milan? o_0

by TonyDaBeast Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:06 pm

Dante13 wrote:it's the first time in my life that i pwn someone in a conversation and in return he calls me a legend . thanks , i guess..

Back on topic , you couldn't possibly answer to what i said in my latest post and you got personal . Actually , it shows who should get a life... :matrix:

In conclusion .. I said all i had to say about this plan of yours with a proper manner. I can't disagree more and you don't have any arguement other than i am a forum legend

lollll and ur proud of that, u no life sack of horse shit. go find urself a boyfriend or something. keep you busy Razz

by BiasedMilanFan3 Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:09 pm

Okay ease it up Tony

No need for that language

by TonyDaBeast Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:12 pm

nawww man, im the peaceful guy around here, im not the one to go insult everywhere. i wont be made to look like an idiot by probably some fatso slob eating burgers and drinking melted butter infront of his computer all day. saying hes a forum legend and proud of that, probably never smelled *bleep* juice in his life Razz

by milanfan7 Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:37 pm

Tony and Dante,cut this BS out,we're all a big family here in the Milan section aren't we? Sad

by BiasedMilanFan3 Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:47 pm

TonyDaBeast wrote:nawww man, im the peaceful guy around here, im not the one to go insult everywhere. i wont be made to look like an idiot by probably some fatso slob eating burgers and drinking melted butter infront of his computer all day. saying hes a forum legend and proud of that, probably never smelled *bleep* juice in his life

Sure you are

Like I said, no need for that kind of language

by Arquitecto Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:50 pm

534 posts since 2011-07 for Dante which is "1.91" posts a day. Seems like a lot right?/sarcasm

Nonetheless,Tony there is absolutely no need for you classless comments and jibes on Dante at all. Kindly refrain from them simply out of respect for Dante who we hold in high regard and respect. Very disappointing...

by TonyDaBeast Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:17 pm

i didnt mean to upset or try and stir up sh*t with my other fellow milanistas, for that im sorry, i was in the moment and i took it a bit too far sure. but i will not be made the scapegoat for wtv reason because i am the quiet poster while the other one got the respect from other people because hes been here since 2007 or because he does very long posts Razz

too me its irrelevant and i couldnt care less to tell you. how can someone have a stature on an internet forum cmon Razz

n e ways like milanfan said, we are all a big family and hes right and i will stay true to those values. sorry to all my milanistas. i will save my arguing and bad temper and all my little know-hows for the enemy Twisted Evil

by Arquitecto Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:31 pm

TonyDaBeast wrote:i didnt mean to upset or try and stir up sh*t with my other fellow milanistas, for that im sorry, i was in the moment and i took it a bit too far sure. but i will not be made the scapegoat for wtv reason because i am the quiet poster while the other one got the respect from other people because hes been here since 2007 or because he does very long posts too me its irrelevant and i couldnt care less to tell you. how can someone have a stature on an internet forum cmon n e ways like milanfan said, we are all a big family and hes right and i will stay true to those values. sorry to all my milanistas. i will save my arguing and bad temper and all my little know-hows for the enemy

His long posts are a mark of the sheer quality of his footballing mind and how he intends to express it. Detailed posts certainly are better to read than the usual lazy posts that most Milanisti post here ( this is not directed towards you).

As irrelevant this is to you, the forum and especially this section of the forum intends to follow the principle of giving each other a mutual exchange of respect regardless of the fact that its on the internet. Which also means this section has a designated respect for you and this is not only because you are a Milan fan.

Further respect, is based purely on merit which Dante has earned.

We just hope you can abide by that, even if you don't agree with it.

by TonyDaBeast Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:00 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
TonyDaBeast wrote:i didnt mean to upset or try and stir up sh*t with my other fellow milanistas, for that im sorry, i was in the moment and i took it a bit too far sure. but i will not be made the scapegoat for wtv reason because i am the quiet poster while the other one got the respect from other people because hes been here since 2007 or because he does very long posts too me its irrelevant and i couldnt care less to tell you. how can someone have a stature on an internet forum cmon n e ways like milanfan said, we are all a big family and hes right and i will stay true to those values. sorry to all my milanistas. i will save my arguing and bad temper and all my little know-hows for the enemy

His long posts are a mark of the sheer quality of his footballing mind and how he intends to express it. Detailed posts certainly are better to read than the usual lazy posts that most Milanisti post here ( this is not directed towards you).

As irrelevant this is to you, the forum and especially this section of the forum intends to follow the principle of giving each other a mutual exchange of respect regardless of the fact that its on the internet. Which also means this section has a designated respect for you and this is not only because you are a Milan fan.

Further respect, is based purely on merit which Dante has earned.

We just hope you can abide by that, even if you don't agree with it.

thats exactly spot on my point. thats where i lost it. where was my respect in my post? now u know y i got pissed

by arabprince Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:29 pm

Psst, you guys, this is the internet.

by TonyDaBeast Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:50 pm

arabprince wrote:Psst, you guys, this is the internet.

thank you

by Dante Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:55 pm

TonyDaBeast wrote:
Dante13 wrote:it's the first time in my life that i pwn someone in a conversation and in return he calls me a legend . thanks , i guess..

Back on topic , you couldn't possibly answer to what i said in my latest post and you got personal . Actually , it shows who should get a life... :matrix:

In conclusion .. I said all i had to say about this plan of yours with a proper manner. I can't disagree more and you don't have any arguement other than i am a forum legend

lollll and ur proud of that, u no life sack of horse shit. go find urself a boyfriend or something. keep you busy

I am , proud Suspect

?!? You can't even understand irony , can you Laughing

Stop embarrasing yourself , you can't even have a polite conversation . All i did was disagree with a post of yours and you got personal & begun to insult me. "peacefull guy"... Laughing

Anyhow , just because i do have a life , i can't really take your laughable insults towards me seriously. And if some guys in the forum like Arquitecto respect me , it's because i have shown equal respect for them as well . Not to mention , we don't insult each other when we disagree son.

P.S You begun with the "legend" and stuff , none here mentions me like that Laughing

It just shows how seriously you took an unknown guy in a football forum.. and i am the one who should get-a-life ... Laughing

by Milan31 Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:05 pm

Let's drop this convo Milanista's, just because Dante disagreed with your post that does not mean he was disrespecting you Tony, you took it personal and that's where this all started. Let's keep it peaceful boys and respect each others opinions. We are Milanista's Smile

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