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Stats Analysis: WhoScored's Top Rated Centre-Midfielders
http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/a2ews3-hu0k4oazz_ca0bw/Show/Stats-Analysis-WhoScoreds-Top-Rated-Centre-Midfielders
What do you think? I think the CM role is something that can be judged by stats alone (passes, % and key passes etc)
BTW so much for Alonso the liability
Do you agree with their list? I do, except I rate Alonso higher than Modric.
What do you think? I think the CM role is something that can be judged by stats alone (passes, % and key passes etc)
BTW so much for Alonso the liability
The former Liverpool man is a crucial figure in Real’s bid for La Liga title, producing 84.7 passes per game from his role alongside Sami Khedira in the double pivot. Alonso is second only to Xavi in Europe’s top five leagues here - given that Sergio Ramos is next best for Madrid with 62.6, the reliance on Alonso to dictate play for Jose Mourinho’s side is obvious.
Alonso’s passing is well-suited to Madrid’s rapid attacking game - an average of 10.1 long passes supply the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Angel Di Maria on the wings from deep, with Khedira making a mere 1.1 beside him. In terms of creating goalscoring opportunities, Alonso is third top for Madrid; an average of 1.8 key passes betters Ronaldo’s 1.6 and is inferior only to Mesut Ozil (2.6) and Di Maria (2.1). Of all the side’s main creators, Alonso has the most impressive accuracy – 88.5% - and has so far provided 5 assists over his 25 appearances.
A look at his attacking stats indicate that Alonso is quite happy to stay in a deeper role, allowing the front four in Mourinho’s 4-2-3-1 to provide the vast majority of the forward threat. A mere 0.6 shots - which have returned a single goal - in addition to 0.1 successful dribble per game highlights just how rarely he advances forward when in possession.
Alonso’s defensive contribution is also impressive. His reading of the game means he makes the same number of interceptions (2.2) as the likes of Pepe, with his tally superior to both Khedira (1.4) and Lassana Diarra (1.5) in the central midfield area. Alonso is second only to Diarra when it comes to tackles (4.3 to 3.1), with Khedira (1.6) making just more than half the playmaker’s average in comparison. Yet to pick up a WhoScored man of the match award, his average of 7.55 is third for Mourinho’s title-chasers, behind Ronaldo (8.39) and Di Maria (7.65) with just twelve games of the season remaining.
Do you agree with their list? I do, except I rate Alonso higher than Modric.
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Bastian has hardly played ffs Modric flops against any decent midfield
Dont believe me watch Modric v Newcastle away, City away, Arsenal away and home, Liverpool home and away, United home etc etc.
Oh and Alonso is a lliability...... defensively, but it isnt his fault its the system and how he's asked to play which is at fault.
If Pirlo and Xavi played the same role they would be lliability's aswell.
Dont believe me watch Modric v Newcastle away, City away, Arsenal away and home, Liverpool home and away, United home etc etc.
Oh and Alonso is a lliability...... defensively, but it isnt his fault its the system and how he's asked to play which is at fault.
If Pirlo and Xavi played the same role they would be lliability's aswell.
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Xavi did play that role in the past and was called a liability
But a CM is a CM not a DM. Despite this Alonso wins alot of balls, it's just that he can't defend against technical players... Relies completly on his reading of the game/intercepting.
But a CM is a CM not a DM. Despite this Alonso wins alot of balls, it's just that he can't defend against technical players... Relies completly on his reading of the game/intercepting.
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I dont rate midfielders based on stats.Sorry.
Stats are irrelevant to them.
Stats are irrelevant to them.
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I don't either, but I think stats for CMs matters alot.
If a CM has 50% passing %, it clearly tells you he is a shitty short passer.
If you see 10.1 average long balls per game, it also tells you alot.
Of course, seeing them on the TV tells alot more than stats but I think stats tell a whole alot too
If a CM has 50% passing %, it clearly tells you he is a shitty short passer.
If you see 10.1 average long balls per game, it also tells you alot.
Of course, seeing them on the TV tells alot more than stats but I think stats tell a whole alot too
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"I think the CM role is something that can be judged by stats alone"
Horrible...just horrible...
Anyway.
Alonso cant tackle cant defend against GREAT players who play in between the lines..so yes, in those situations he is a liability at times defensively.
Then add, when you press him, he has trouble making passes (check his passing numbers vs Barca as a prime example of this).
Also, where is Iniesta? He plays in an area much closer to Xavi then Pirlo does for example.
Horrible...just horrible...
Anyway.
Alonso cant tackle cant defend against GREAT players who play in between the lines..so yes, in those situations he is a liability at times defensively.
Then add, when you press him, he has trouble making passes (check his passing numbers vs Barca as a prime example of this).
Also, where is Iniesta? He plays in an area much closer to Xavi then Pirlo does for example.
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Alonso is only 2nd in averaging most passes per game and is third (after Xavi & Messi) in passing in the final third
Like I said, him being a defensive liability isn't his fault. He isn't a DM, so it's not his fault his coach plays him as one.
Only "liability" is him under pressure, but even so, he performs great more often than bad.
Like I said, him being a defensive liability isn't his fault. He isn't a DM, so it's not his fault his coach plays him as one.
Only "liability" is him under pressure, but even so, he performs great more often than bad.
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I'd like to see Rosicky's stats this season. He's a better player than Modric
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But he has to play deep, because he doesnt carry the ball forward, doesnt make runs forward off the ball. Deep, in front of the back 4 is where he likes to be, not where he is simply put.
He played there for Liverpool too, difference was he has Mascherano doing all the work for him.
Only, he cant tackle or defend in that position agains tthe very best...hence, liability in those games.
Alonso isnt a liability in most games, we all know that, but he has flaws both offensively and defensively agasint certain opponants.
He played there for Liverpool too, difference was he has Mascherano doing all the work for him.
Only, he cant tackle or defend in that position agains tthe very best...hence, liability in those games.
Alonso isnt a liability in most games, we all know that, but he has flaws both offensively and defensively agasint certain opponants.
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Rosicky cant even play 90 minutes....he has been masterful recently, but come on now. He doesnt even play the same position anyway.
Modric is a very good player, VERY good. Its a shame he has to play in such a limited team tactically and one who dont play to his strengths at all.
Modric is a very good player, VERY good. Its a shame he has to play in such a limited team tactically and one who dont play to his strengths at all.
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Arteta destroyed Modric alone.
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Your not allowed to talk about Spurs players, your incapable of being fair.
I watched that game too, he didnt destroy him lol
I watched that game too, he didnt destroy him lol
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Se7en wrote:Alonso is only 2nd in averaging most passes per game and is third (after Xavi & Messi) in passing in the final third
Like I said, him being a defensive liability isn't his fault. He isn't a DM, so it's not his fault his coach plays him as one.
Only "liability" is him under pressure, but even so, he performs great more often than bad.
Lol, i just LOL'd because this is too much .
Xabi is playing deep because that's the only area of the pitch where he is the safest, and he is not even a defensive specialist. Dont blame Mourinho, Xabi cant play higher up the pitch, he just cant
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