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Post by Adit Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:11 am

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Adit, India is American colony like China and Russia, don't get outraged

Talking outa your ass.

American colony? lol We may not be foe with them but we are far from being pro American country.

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Post by McAgger Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:07 pm

imalegend wrote:If you are talking about the Soviets wining Afghan war then, Soviet Union never won in Afghan they were driven out by the Mujaheddin

Btw you can never beat the Afghani peopl, one thing i can tell you about them is that they never give up, and keep going... From a young age most are hardworkers

This 1+ ......The war is useless. Afghans will never give and I know because I'm an Afghan smoking
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:05 pm

imalegend wrote:If you are talking about the Soviets wining Afghan war then, Soviet Union never won in Afghan they were driven out by the Mujaheddin

Btw you can never beat the Afghani peopl, one thing i can tell you about them is that they never give up, and keep going... From a young age most are hardworkers
imalegend wrote:If you are talking about the Soviets wining Afghan war then, Soviet Union never won in Afghan they were driven out by the Mujaheddin

Btw you can never beat the Afghani peopl, one thing i can tell you about them is that they never give up, and keep going... From a young age most are hardworkers
imalegend wrote:If you are talking about the Soviets wining Afghan war then, Soviet Union never won in Afghan they were driven out by the Mujaheddin

Btw you can never beat the Afghani peopl, one thing i can tell you about them is that they never give up, and keep going... From a young age most are hardworkers
imalegend wrote:If you are talking about the Soviets wining Afghan war then, Soviet Union never won in Afghan they were driven out by the Mujaheddin

Btw you can never beat the Afghani peopl, one thing i can tell you about them is that they never give up, and keep going... From a young age most are hardworkers

They controlled every corner. Tactical victory by all means. Economic problems and public backlash saved Muhajideen. Stingers were a show-off, nothing more



Vietnam, same picture
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Post by Babun Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:10 pm

Murders, rape and other attrocities are common in wars. It's just that an US soldier would make a bigger headline than a separatist somewhere between Pakistan and India.

About the motives, USA built a compound of underground fighters to destroy everything the soviet union tried to do in Afghanistan. Mujahedin or whatever, they'd never be able to show resistance if they weren't supplied by weapons and money ( CIA says hello). The ground to educate them was Pakistan or better said the borders between Pakistan and Afghanistan. CIA succeeded in their plans but they couldn't get rid of the organization they built. They withdrew from the region ( money, weapons) but some arab Sheikhs and other people with terrorism in mind supplied them with the things they needed again but
this time to fight USA+ Isreal. Isreal is like a thorn in the eye or Arab countries.

Imagine, if you're a mujahedin ( sorry for spelling) and suppressed people with weapons. What will you be without them? People would lynch you. They don't have a choice but to submit to their new suppliers. It's like a vicious circle.

If USA were to withraw now , you should expect nuclear weapons and other crap stationed there by terrorists at some point with their prime target being Isreal. Also, you'd have a lawless compound for terror training camps and other nasty stuff.

Conclusion, USA caused the problem, it bites them back now and they can't just leave the problem alone. They can't even form a stable government there because all their efforts are destroyed by taliban who come back and forth from Pakistan. It's like USA are the soviet union now and Arab Sheikhs CIA from back then.
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Post by Babun Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:13 pm

Even Pakistan is instable because of those powers. USA may as well invade Pakistan and take everything under control, their government doesn't have any control over radical islamistic groups with terrorism in mind.
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:25 pm

Who said Neo-Cons don't support Islamism?)

The new project is Neo-Osman Empire. US cant interfere in the Middle East anymore directly, they lost their face. But their allies can. Turkey will play a major role, it does already. The radical Muslim world will unite under Turkish leadership when Syria, Iran, Oman, Yemen, etc fall. This will be a puppet satellite that will play an aggressive game against BRIC countries, that are getting more autonomous and pose competitive threat to Anglo-Saxon model.

The attack on Iran is matter of time, it ll start post Obama elections. Even if Romney/Santorum/Gringich/Bachmann win, the int policy never changes. After Iran falls, Azerbaijan will take Northern Iran, and make a coalition with Georgia. The duo will then make a project of uniting Caucausus region and bringing it into Neo Osman Empire. Then Middle Asia as well. This will cut off Russia and China from vital energy supplies.




In Europe, US is afraid of nationalist movements. The end of multiculturalism will make the region free from overseas rule.
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Post by lenear1030 Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:16 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:Who said Neo-Cons don't support Islamism?)

The new project is Neo-Osman Empire. US cant interfere in the Middle East anymore directly, they lost their face. But their allies can. Turkey will play a major role, it does already. The radical Muslim world will unite under Turkish leadership when Syria, Iran, Oman, Yemen, etc fall. This will be a puppet satellite that will play an aggressive game against BRIC countries, that are getting more autonomous and pose competitive threat to Anglo-Saxon model.

The attack on Iran is matter of time, it ll start post Obama elections. Even if Romney/Santorum/Gringich/Bachmann win, the int policy never changes. After Iran falls, Azerbaijan will take Northern Iran, and make a coalition with Georgia. The duo will then make a project of uniting Caucausus region and bringing it into Neo Osman Empire. Then Middle Asia as well. This will cut off Russia and China from vital energy supplies.




In Europe, US is afraid of nationalist movements. The end of multiculturalism will make the region free from overseas rule.


everything in red is what i eluded to in my post.

but i dont necessarily agree with what you say in your first paragraph. I believe the US WILL continue to be involved in the Middle East directly.
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Post by FalcaoPunch Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:03 pm

Probably prestiged after that too
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Post by lenear1030 Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:16 pm

ColoJunior wrote:Probably prestiged after that too

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