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Post by Curtinho Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:29 am

We can agree to disagree. Silva is just as good a passer, is better under pressure, and is much better at one-twos and pass and move plays in tight spaces. I also don't think Ozil is a better dribbler or technically superior, Silva just doesn't hold onto the ball and is always trying to make smart decisions rather than forcing unnecessarily. Plus Silva is a better goal scorer, and the way he controls the tempo of a match is really something to watch. He's just a more intelligent player overall, is a better team player and is more versatile.

When I say Silva is underrated to most people it's not because I don't think people rate him. It's because I think he might be the best at his job in the world. IMO. I don't think he's appreciated enough.

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Post by jibers Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:34 am

Curtinho wrote:We can agree to disagree. Silva is just as good a passer, is better under pressure, and is much better at one-twos and pass and move plays in tight spaces. I also don't think Ozil is a better dribbler or technically superior, Silva just doesn't hold onto the ball and is always trying to make smart decisions rather than forcing unnecessarily. Plus Silva is a better goal scorer, and the way he controls the tempo of a match is really something to watch. He's just a more intelligent player overall, is a better team player and is more versatile.

When I say Silva is underrated to most people it's not because I don't think people rate him. It's because I think he might be the best at his job in the world. IMO. I don't think he's appreciated enough.


Disagree completely. Again, the level Ozil played at Madrid, Silva has yet to ever play at that level. Ozil holds the ball longer because he is THE final ball passer and always waits for runs. He is a better passer than Silva, for me there is no debate. Better at finishing based on the many goals he scores I presume...
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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:10 am

I would personally take Silva over Ozil. I could say the same thing by claiming put Silva in RM with Ronaldo, Benz and Di Maria and he'd do as good if not better.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:28 am

I like Özil a lot, but if I'm honest I would take Silva over him too.
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Post by Red Alert Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:35 am

jibers wrote:
Curtinho wrote:Silva is miles better than Ozil as a footballer. Ozil would be better on City than Silva wtf lol


Based on what exactly? The level Ozil played for Madrid is higher than anything Silva has produced in his career. Ozil is a better passer and better dribbler and is technically superior. Put Silva in Arsenal and he would't look any better.


The level Kaka played for Milan is a lot higher than what Ozil and Silva has reached. Kaka is clearly better than both.

Seriously what logic is this. Ozil left Madrid 3 years ago. He's showed 1/3rd of his form since leaving Madrid and joining Arsenal.  

Currently Silva IS a better player. And he'll continue to be a better player until Ozil gets some bottle.
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Post by Killer Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:09 pm

NO comparison, even Pastore is better than the mediocre ozil.
Fabregas is a more rare player..
Ozil is better dribbler? who cares.. Fabregas is a regista, registas are more rare players the CAms...


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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:32 pm

Fabregas is a regista ?
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Post by El Gunner Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:05 pm

Killer wrote:NO comparison, even Pastore is better than the mediocre ozil.
Fabregas is a more rare player..
Ozil is better dribbler? who cares.. Fabregas is a regista, registas are more players the CAms...

Even I'm not going to take that Laughing
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Post by The Franchise Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:51 pm

So many people taking Cesc because of his "physique" and long shot in the first few pages. Made it seem like we was Yaya Toure Laughing
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Post by El Gunner Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:54 pm

lol when did Cesc ever have "physique", just said it because Ozil looks so easy to run over Laughing
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Post by Killer Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:49 am

Ozil= a mediocre and overrated player who did well only at Real Madrid with Benzema, Ronaldo and Higuain.
Typical Arsenal player.. losers play for losers

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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:11 pm

Killer wrote:Ozil= a mediocre and overrated player who did well only at Real Madrid with Benzema, Ronaldo and Higuain.
Typical Arsenal player.. losers play for losers


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Post by Curtinho Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:38 pm

Say what you want about Ozil...he's certainly better than Fabregas.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:36 pm

Özil not a big game player my ass. Is always awesome if his entire team doesn't disappear.
Was immense again today, and a big reason why Arsenal worked.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:59 pm

Killer wrote:Ozil= a mediocre and overrated player who did well only at Real Madrid with Benzema, Ronaldo and Higuain.
Typical Arsenal player.. losers play for losers

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Post by Blue Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:41 am

Certainly Ozil, but Cesc is past his best tbf.

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Post by free_cat Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:17 pm

If we compare last season, certainly Cesc is the superior player.

Also, megaLOL at Cesc being one of the fastest players in England in 2009. That's just impossible. He isn't fast by any comparison possible.
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Post by Sri Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:25 pm

Cesc was superior last season because Chelsea won the title?

Just trying to understand on what basis you are making that statement.

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Post by Sri Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:30 pm

Reading through this thread is such a wonderful longitudanal analysis of Arsenal fans' tastes Laughing

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Post by Lucifer Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:41 pm

srigooner wrote:Cesc was superior last season because Chelsea won the title?

Just trying to understand on what basis you are making that statement.
he was actually one of the best midfielder last year and along with matic formed one of the most effective partnership. Actually imo he was the reason Costa looked gud. Those through balls to costa :bow:

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Post by Sri Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:44 pm

Correction: He was good for half a season.

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Post by Sri Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:47 pm

Also, that was the period with the post-WC impact on all our German players (i.e. both Mertesacker and Özil had dips), and when Özil got inured (i.e. 8Oct to his return on 11 Jan 2015).

Let's also take a minute to remember how Arsenal fans spent most of last two seasons wondering why Özil and Theo were like ships in the dark, taking turns getting injured.


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Post by free_cat Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:48 pm

srigooner wrote:Correction: He was good for half a season.


Sure, Cesc is never good more than half a season. But that was enough to be better than Ozil as a whole. I don't think it can be denied he was instrumental for the league title and better than Ozil last season.

Not a fan of cesc.
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Post by Sri Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:56 pm

I know you aren't a fan of Cesc - take but a glance into the Cesc Crapregas thread to know that.

However, to attribute the title to half a season from a single player is taking it a good stretch too far in my eyes. Anyway, I do agree that he was really good till Dec 2014.

Özil, since his return in Jan 2015, has been sublime in most parts. This season, he has added consistency and big game displays to his repertoire. And also addressed the 'Özil doesn't have the bottle to last 90 minutes' faction with displays like last night.

Fabregas was an early bloomer. He has declined year on year since he left Wenger's tutelage and Cesc-shaped-system. Özil, on the other hand, has gone up and up since his times at Schalke, suffered some dips on joining the PL (dealing with extra games, WC hangover, arbit injuries, etc.) but has been miles ahead since the turn of this year.

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Post by El Gunner Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:01 pm

F this boy called Francesc Fabregas, biggest snake and fraud I've ever seen. Laziest, slowest, most ineffective pos I've ever seen.
Ozil is superior and shits on that boy.
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Post by Myesyats Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:14 am

El Gunner wrote:F this boy called Francesc Fabregas, biggest snake and fraud I've ever seen. Laziest, slowest, most ineffective pos I've ever seen.
Ozil is superior and shits on that boy.

Just seen this rofl

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