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Post by The Franchise Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:47 am

Saetablanca wrote:Barca section copying us :coffee:

Soon enough you'll tell us that you're doing away with all the nicknames and making 'Official' threads again :coffee:

What are you, like 11?

Oh...copycat...copycat....jeez


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Post by The Franchise Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:48 am

The Lizard King wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Well this is why I asked, happy for the feedback no matter what it is.

I understand the points, I agree in some ways, things "La Maqina" is kinda lame but I like the idea of a nickname (if its a good one) because it makes the thread stand out a little.

Perhaps media given names for those famous ones, but I thought for example, Kizz having "the flash" next to Tello made sense and fit quite well and it indeed did stand out.

Anyway, keep the opinions coming and me and Kizz will talk it over. Nicknames are not a big thing, its more the organisation of the section which interests me and it seems in terms of that, it seems people are mostly for it.

Definitely. The organizational benefits are out of the question, sorry if I was just nitpicking on the tiny details. I just agreed with Albiceleste and thought I'd chip in. But I'm all for the idea to have a thread on each player - especially with all the stats and youtube videos. Thumbs up

Edit : "The Flash" isn't bad either Very Happy

No, its good, im glad for the feedback. I understand the point of view.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:12 am

As far as nicknames are concerned I agree with LM's point of view. I don't want to completely make up new ones for players that already get referred to as something else. The way I see it, we have two options. The first option is to give everyone their real nickname (Messi = pulga, etc), and make up one if they don't have one (like with Cuenca, Telo or Montoya). Not all press-appointed nicknames are actually used by our community or the barca community in general though, so we should use our own discretion. The other options is to give them their forum nickname (shini's list would be epic). I'm perfectly fine with both of these, or a combination of both.

Real Nicknames appointed by press:

According to Barcanews:

Víctor Valdés: 'Doble' y 'Potro', Dani Alves:' Tiburón', Puyol; 'Tarzán', Piqué; 'Piquetón', Abidal: 'Abu', Xavi: 'Pelopo', Iniesta: 'Gusiluz', Cesc: 'el Pelucas', Pedro: 'Sepia' y "Flaco", Messi: 'El Enano', Jonathan Dos Santos; 'el Gordito', Bartra; 'la Niña', Oier;' Pájaro loco', Miño; 'el Rata'

Barcelona players by nickname according to Spanish Wiki (not available on English wiki):

1 Valdes: Double V, La pantera/The panther, The Panther of Hospilatet
2 Dani Alves: MotoGP, Tarantula
3 Pique: Piquenbauer, The Prince
4 Cesc: Cesc lol
5 Puyol: Tiburón/Shark, Tarzán, Bull, The Tarzan of La Pobla, Puyi
6 Xavi: Pelopo, Humphrey Bogart
7 David Villa: El Guaje
8 Iniesta:Don Andres, Fantasmita/Little Ghost, The White Knight, The Brain
9 Alexis Sanchez: Niño Maravilla/Wonderkid
10 Messi: La Pulga/The Flee, The Messiah
11 Thiago: Mazinho Jr
13 Pinto: Tao Pai Pai, Pinto of Inflection, Senglar
14 Mascherano: Masche, Monster Masch, El Jefecito/ The little chief, The lion
15 Keita: Seito, Keite, The lung of the forest
16 Busquets: Busi, Pulpo/Octopus, The Octopus of La Badia, Snowblower
17 Pedro: PR17, Pedrito, Don Pedro
20 Afellay: Ibi
21 Adriano: Adriano Moto/ Motorcycle Adriano, 5 position man, Adrimagic, The Bull of Curitiba
22 Abidal: Abi, The Kenyan, The French Arrow, The Sprinter
23 Cuenca:
24: Fontas:
28: JDS: Jona
32: Tello:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:22 am

As far as the actual idea I do have one criticism: I think it has the potential to discourage conversation.

Let's say I want to make a thread about Thiago's passing ability, and I want to write 5 or 6 paragraphs about it so I'd put in a fair amount of work. Since I put effort into that post, and it's a novel subject not discussed on the Thiago thread yet, I would want to start my own thread to make sure the most amount of people read it. Otherwise, I may think only a few people would read it so why bother?

The solution to this potential problem is easy: allow people to start new threads about players and when they die merge them with the player thread. If this is allowed I have no problems at all with the new idea.
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Post by BarcaKizz Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:35 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:As far as the actual idea I do have one criticism: I think it has the potential to discourage conversation.

Let's say I want to make a thread about Thiago's passing ability, and I want to write 5 or 6 paragraphs about it so I'd put in a fair amount of work. Since I put effort into that post, and it's a novel subject not discussed on the Thiago thread yet, I would want to start my own thread to make sure the most amount of people read it. Otherwise, I may think only a few people would read it so why bother?

The solution to this potential problem is easy: allow people to start new threads about players and when they die merge them with the player thread. If this is allowed I have no problems at all with the new idea.

You answered your problem with what we plan to do to an extent. The idea is not to stop the opening of interesting topics on players but to stop redundant threads of stats, videos, quotes etc.

It is up to the poster's discretion as to whether it is a topic worthy of its own thread. If myself or dani thinks its a shite thread we can merge it. Easy.

Oh and I agree with you on the names. I don't think they are that important. For players with existing ones we all know we can use them. Otherwise it's not so necessary unless you have a really good one, like 'The Flash'. Me :bow: hehe
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Post by free_cat Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:54 am

The Lizard King wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Because your too proud and dont want to look to copy them? lol

I understand if thats the case, but just wondering.
It's not, I just don't find it particularly aesthetically pleasing, or maybe it's because I'm used to seeing the nicknames "el leon" or "la maquina" Laughing

Agree with Albiceleste. Madrid section always struck me as juvenile. With all those retarded nicknames, their front page is like a classifieds section for Mexican luchadores . Would genuinely appreciate if we didn't follow suit, but hey..it's just a forum, and it looks like most of us don't mind..so neither do I.

Can we just have Messi as "La Pulga" and Iniesta as "Don Andres" or "El Anti Galactico" ? As long as they have media appointed nicknames, I don't see why we should go out of our way to make new ones..that aren't really that great.

Just my opinion.

Agreed, I don't think every player needs a nickname. If it's a really apropiate nickname, like "the flash" for Tello, it's cool. If it's a spread nickname it's also cool like the usual nicknames:

Iniesta: Don Andres, Gusiluz.
Messi: La Pulga, El petitó (the small one).
Piqué: Piquenbauer
Puyol is called Tarzan or tiburon (shark) by spanish commentators, I don't like any of them and catalan commentators don't use it.
Mascherano: Machete, Jefesito
Villa: Guaje
Keita: Keite

The others from Alfred's list are not really used.

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Post by The Franchise Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:07 pm

Intresting comments.

La Pulga, Don Andres, Piquebauer, Machete,Niño Maravilla and Guaje are the ones most well known/personal favourites to me.

I lie 5 position man Adriano, thats a cool one.

I guess later on ill start making some threads to get this rolling.
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:58 pm

I like some of BarrileteCosmico's, White knight, The Messiah, MotoGP, Octopus, etc Very Happy

I dont know Spainish and have no idea what some of those above means :vagi:
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Post by Albiceleste Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:03 pm

The Franchise wrote:Intresting comments.

La Pulga, Don Andres, Piquebauer, Machete,Niño Maravilla and Guaje are the ones most well known/personal favourites to me.

I lie 5 position man Adriano, thats a cool one.

I guess later on ill start making some threads to get this rolling.
Agreed with these names, I'd also add Niño Maravilla too for Alexis. Pedrito too

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Post by Madvillain Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:06 pm

The Franchise wrote:http://www.barcaforum.com/forum.php

Your not allowed to leave here and go there though lol

Franchise, are you a poster there? I posted a while (def. not a lot, ended up with about 100 posts) but the Admin (Bojan) really got on my nerves. It was the reason fo me to come here.

I do like the idea though. Works nicely, those different threads.
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Post by The Franchise Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:49 pm

No, I lurk every now and again and steal things to use here. But other than that no.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:58 am

Where's Pinto thread? We need Pinto thread.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:25 pm

Good idea, he is on the list. Only reason it has been done till now is time.
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Post by Madvillain Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:00 pm

The Franchise wrote:No, I lurk every now and again and steal things to use here. But other than that no.


I see. It's a pity that there seem to be no other English spoken Barça forums out there. But GL is nice.
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:48 am

I know Keita is not rated much here, but I think he should be, not only for his goal in this game, but generally since hes been at Barca whenever hes played hes done well. He doesnt get enough credit becos ppl including us compare him with Iniesta and Busquets, which is harsh. Hes still a top top midfielder!

I want us all to give him a well deserved round of applause! Razz cheers cheers cheers :bball:

I know part of it is we think he will get in the way of the youngsters but thats really unfair to the man, since hes given us a lot too. Sign at the same time as Alves.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:02 am

Okay....but this was posted here because?
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Post by Harmonica Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:30 am

Keita thread needed Asap. Very Happy
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:13 am

Yea I didnt know where to put it Razz
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Post by BarcaKizz Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:33 am

Hi guys. We've finished making threads for each squad members. We will continue to make new ones for youth players etc if needed, but for now we have a sufficient database.

The database can be found in the 'Archives' which is in the first post of 'The Press Room' thread. I'll also post a copy here, though this thread will be taken down soon.

Here is the squad for 2011/2012. Enjoy.



FC Barcelona Squad and Threads:

Manager: Pep Guardiola

1. Victor Valdes
2. Dani Alves
3. Gerard Pique
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Carles Puyol (C)
6. Xavi Hernandez
7. David Villa
8. Andres Iniesta
9. Alexis Sanchez
10. Lionel Messi
11. Thiago Alcantara
13. Jose Manuel Pinto
14. Javier Mascherano
15. Seydou Keita
16. Sergio Busquets
17. Pedro Rodriguez
20. Ibrahim Afellay
21. Adriano Correia
22. Eric Abidal
23. Isaac Cuenca
24. Andreu Fontas
35. Martin Montoya
37. Cristian Tello


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Post by Spooony Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:13 am

I see no Laporta thread mmmmm
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:15 am

perhaps it's time to un-announce this?
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Post by The Sanchez Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:04 am

BarcaKizz wrote:Hi guys. We've finished making threads for each squad members. We will continue to make new ones for youth players etc if needed, but for now we have a sufficient database.

The database can be found in the 'Archives' which is in the first post of 'The Press Room' thread. I'll also post a copy here, though this thread will be taken down soon.

Here is the squad for 2011/2012. Enjoy.



FC Barcelona Squad and Threads:

Manager: Pep Guardiola

1. Victor Valdes
2. Dani Alves
3. Gerard Pique
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Carles Puyol (C)
6. Xavi Hernandez
7. David Villa
8. Andres Iniesta
9. Alexis Sanchez
10. Lionel Messi
11. Thiago Alcantara
13. Jose Manuel Pinto
14. Javier Mascherano
15. Seydou Keita
16. Sergio Busquets
17. Pedro Rodriguez
20. Ibrahim Afellay
21. Adriano Correia
22. Eric Abidal
23. Isaac Cuenca
24. Andreu Fontas
35. Martin Montoya
37. Cristian Tello

Next season, I can see Montoya getting the number 12 jeresy with Muniesa getting the 18. Tello maybe getting the 19. JDS and Barta getting the the closest highest jersey they can find
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