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Post by McAgger Wed 8 Feb - 9:11

Inter should sign both Tevez and Robben and they'll have a pretty good team again in a short time span. The trio of Sneijder, Tevez, and Robben Twisted Evil

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Post by VivaStPauli Wed 8 Feb - 15:50

DISCLAIMER: I wrote this post 12 hours ago before I went drinking and forgot to hit send, I didn't re-read it and I hope it's still somewhat relevant. :O

Well my main point isn't even really that Robben should be benched, it's just that I prefer Kroos at the 10, because the team should be built around Piggy. Start to finish. Get Gustavo next to him for stability, Kroos ahead of him so he has someone to pass to in center who'll distribute further, so Piggy has to run less, give him decent wingers to play through-balls to, Gomez is god anyway, have actual fullbacks to his flanks so he has more players to pass to on the wings and boom.

So yeah I agree with Sushi. Piggy should be Bayerns Xavi.
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Post by The Messiah Wed 8 Feb - 15:59

The Franchise wrote:I have not seen much of Bayern, but I find it hard to understand why its Robben who should be benched and not Muller.

I understand, neither are playing well and Muller makes great off the ball runs which indeed help great passers in the team.

However, Robben has the ability to go off and win a game on his own at any moment. There is no doubt, 1 v 1 Robben is a clearly better player when he is on form and in the right situation. Also, benching Robben means trouble because he is in his prime and sitting down and watching after the seasons he had recently isnt going to sit well. Muller on the other hand is younger and has more time and probably a better attitude about rotation/benching.

But hey, I dont watch Bayern enough to really say this with any authority, its just the feeling I get.

this^

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Post by The Messiah Wed 8 Feb - 16:10

The whole key to their success is not that robben doesn't play, its that kroos starts in the attacking midfield role and we played Gustavo as DM...Simple Robben rotates with Muller and Gustavo rotates with Tymo. Kroos and Ribery are untouchable in their position...

Rafinha and Robben will definitely work if given the chance, the real problem was playing Schweini-Kroos as DM.

If Robben and Kroos play as AM with Schweini-Gustavo/Tymo as DM I'm sure the team will produced better result..


Schweini-kroos is the real problem and Muller should be on the bench instead of Robben.
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Post by la bestia negra Wed 8 Feb - 16:20

Idrisozet wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I have not seen much of Bayern, but I find it hard to understand why its Robben who should be benched and not Muller.

I understand, neither are playing well and Muller makes great off the ball runs which indeed help great passers in the team.

However, Robben has the ability to go off and win a game on his own at any moment. There is no doubt, 1 v 1 Robben is a clearly better player when he is on form and in the right situation. Also, benching Robben means trouble because he is in his prime and sitting down and watching after the seasons he had recently isnt going to sit well. Muller on the other hand is younger and has more time and probably a better attitude about rotation/benching.

But hey, I dont watch Bayern enough to really say this with any authority, its just the feeling I get.

this^

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hmm the germans dont play ??
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Post by The Messiah Wed 23 May - 5:00

VivaStPauli wrote:http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2012/02/08/2892134/ribery-has-one-goal-no-assists-in-eight-games-without-kroos

I actually agree with this article by ze Whitney. I have seen Bayern with and without Robben this season, and while Robben is still a world class player, he just makes the Bayern attack click less.

Kroos in the Center means Müller on the right, simply because Müller brings smarter runs to the table. Though it could be argued that the "Ribéry-Triangle" Problem could be fixed with benching Müller and playing Kroos at #10 as well.

But I say, bench Robben, play Müller at RM until Reus is there, Kroos at 10 and Ribéry obviously at LM.

You'll have to rotate anyway, so Robben will still get minutes, even when Reus is there.

First time I've to agree with Viva
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed 23 May - 5:32

And you'll stop agreeing with me again after Robben scores in the first match next season. :coffee:
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Post by Swanhends Wed 23 May - 5:35

You mean having a player who receives the ball on the right, and then immediately puts his head down and tries to dribble into the center of the pitch and set up a shot on his left foot every single time he gets the ball disrupts a teams attacking flow?

I'm shocked tbh
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Post by Swanhends Wed 23 May - 5:37

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Inter should sign both Tevez and Robben and they'll have a pretty good team again in a short time span. The trio of Sneijder, Tevez, and Robben Twisted Evil

Peeling off my eyelids is a more preferable option
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun 17 Jun - 14:25

RObben is on an incredible flopping streak, damn
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Post by BigBadBen Sun 17 Jun - 14:26

Ribery is so much better it's unreal.

Bayern can do without Robben.

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Post by celikmilan Sun 17 Jun - 16:33

Some of you forget that Robben did play for Chelsea and he is not going there. I think that he'll stay where he is now even though things seems are not great with him and Ribery. He is great dribler but his shooting is not great at the moment. Couple days ago Blaszczykowski showed him how to shoot and today Van der Vaart showed him the same thing.
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Post by Lex Sun 17 Jun - 16:38

Robben at Arsenal :facepalm: make an already predictable team as routine as day following night

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Post by Sushi Master Sun 17 Jun - 16:54

Guys, Robben's been meh throughout this whole season. I've constantly bitched about how Ribéry is owning him in every department.

It's like he thinks he's in 2010 form, but his body/mentality say otherwise. He has trouble dribbling nowadays, FFS.

Back then he did the exact same routine, everyone knew it, yet was WC. I'd put it all down to weak mentality.

TBH, the whole Dutch offense was crap, including the frakking Premier League and Bundesliga top scorers with like 60 goals between them, so putting all the blame down on Robben seems a bit excessive considering the talent surrounding him. He's never been the focal point of a team's attack, besides that godly 2010 season, and even then he had an amazing supporting cast.
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Post by Ganso Sun 17 Jun - 16:59

Robben didn't even play bad compared to the others...he was the most consistent IMO....but thats like choosing between 2 ugly chicks
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Post by The Messiah Sun 17 Jun - 17:47

Robben is a top player and still one of Bayern greatest asset, all this will build Robben to even become a better player.

He'll bounce back and I hope to see him play as a striker next season, he's becoming too predictable as a right winger.

and lets not forget it was him who created Van Daart vat goal and of course he was unlucky in the first match against Denmark

He missed 2 crucial penalty and so...? doesn't that make him a bad player, NO. we've to question the manager who chose Robben as our penalty taker, when he fully knows he's injury prone and he's not mentally strong

------------Robben---Dzeko-----------
Ribery---------------------------Shaqiri
--------Schweini--Gustavo------------


--------------Gomez-----------------
Ribery-------------------------Muller
---------Kroos--Martinez----------
--------------Tymo------------------

4321 is a failure tactics, you have to ask yourself what has he brought us for 2 years.


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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun 17 Jun - 17:53

Robben as a striker? no that wont happen, he will still be your starting RW as long as he is fit

edit: i meant RW ofc


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Post by The Messiah Sun 17 Jun - 17:57

Mr Nick09 wrote:Robben as a striker? no that wont happen, he will still be your starting RB as long as he is fit


I think you mean Right wing not right back, I know Robben is still undisputed starter, he's a great player and one of our greatest asset. But you must understand that he's becoming too predicted as a RW, unless if he can adapt his game a little bit like Ribery's style, otherwise we might as well play him as a 2nd striker since he always wants to shoot and score.

We don't even have to worry about if our bomb striker should have a different style from Gomez, we'll simply just sign Dzeko.

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon 18 Jun - 2:41

I love how that king guy keeps bringing excuses for why he sucks

He is the SOLE reason for why Bayern didn't win anything this season, they should buy someone like Goetze and mould him into a RW, he would do alot better



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Post by Onyx Mon 18 Jun - 3:27

Robben should stay at RW.

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Post by la bestia negra Mon 18 Jun - 4:23

The Messiah wrote:

He missed 2 crucial penalty and so...? doesn't that make him a bad player, NO. we've to question the manager who chose Robben as our penalty taker, when he fully knows he's injury prone and
dude arjen is not our main PK taker
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon 18 Jun - 4:43

who is it then?? because i always see him take it(provided he means Bayern afcourse( Laughing )
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Post by fatman123 Mon 18 Jun - 4:51

Could Shaquiri become Robbens direct replacment, i havent watched a great amount of Shaquiri but their style of play seems similar-ish
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Post by Onyx Mon 18 Jun - 4:52

Shaqiri is more agile and quicker?

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Post by justdoit_ Mon 18 Jun - 4:54

The Messiah wrote:and lets not forget it was him who created Van Daart vat goal and of course he was unlucky in the first match against Denmark
Laughing

No.

Just no.

A short pass before a moment of individual quality like that dosen't qualify as creating a goal.
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Post by Jack Russell Mon 18 Jun - 5:00

Sneijder: "I want to know who the mole is in
our team. It's okay to tell the media a few
things, but not everything."

Arjen Robben has suggested dressing room
unrest played a part in Holland's
disappointing Euro campaign - bit.ly/ MAOxAk

Could someone shed more light as to what happened in there?
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