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'I want to win Serie A and the Champions League' - Martin Caceres keen to taste success at Juventus
Juventus defender Martin Caceres has revealed he is already eyeing up Serie A and Champions League success, fresh from completing his move back to Turin.
The 24-year-old rejoined the Bianconeri in January after previously spending the 2009-10 campaign at the club on loan from Barcelona, and during his first press conference since his transfer, he intimated that the sky is the limit as far as his objectives are concerned.
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"The move represents a challenge for me to show my worth," Caceres was quoted as saying by Tuttosport.
"I want to win Serie A, and then also the Champions League."
Caceres also spoke of the honour of following in the footsteps of fellow Uruguayan Paolo Montero, who also wore the No.4 jersey during his successful nine-year spell at Juventus, and claims he will give everything to his new side's cause.
"Wearing the No.4 shirt is certainly a source of pride but also a responsibility," he continued. "I hope to do my best to make the fans as happy as he did.
"It makes no difference where I play; the important thing is to play. If I must choose, I do like central defence the most, but it does not matter," concluded Caceres.
The defender is in line to make his second Juventus debut on February 5 against Siena.
when I said, Caceres need to replace Barzagli,
Chiellini Caceres Bonnuci Linshtainer
people was joking with me here... as you can see Center is his favorite,
The 24-year-old rejoined the Bianconeri in January after previously spending the 2009-10 campaign at the club on loan from Barcelona, and during his first press conference since his transfer, he intimated that the sky is the limit as far as his objectives are concerned.
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"The move represents a challenge for me to show my worth," Caceres was quoted as saying by Tuttosport.
"I want to win Serie A, and then also the Champions League."
Caceres also spoke of the honour of following in the footsteps of fellow Uruguayan Paolo Montero, who also wore the No.4 jersey during his successful nine-year spell at Juventus, and claims he will give everything to his new side's cause.
"Wearing the No.4 shirt is certainly a source of pride but also a responsibility," he continued. "I hope to do my best to make the fans as happy as he did.
"It makes no difference where I play; the important thing is to play. If I must choose, I do like central defence the most, but it does not matter," concluded Caceres.
The defender is in line to make his second Juventus debut on February 5 against Siena.
when I said, Caceres need to replace Barzagli,
Chiellini Caceres Bonnuci Linshtainer
people was joking with me here... as you can see Center is his favorite,
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BArzagli is in world class this season bro he is the best defender this season he needs to replace Bonucci or be LB, Barzagli, Chiello > Caceres in CB
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what makes you believe someone is better then Caceres on CB?
Caceres can become our new Cannavaro
the others have no pace
Caceres can become our new Cannavaro
the others have no pace
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Caceres should be playin LB. Barzagli and Chiellini is the best duo ever we could use in center atm.
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currently the best formation which suits us given the players we have at our disposal and the form which they are showcasing is a 3-5-2 or what Conte likes to call it a 3-3-4.
just make our back three with Barzagli in the middle Chiellini on the left and Caceres on the right and it could work surprisingly well when you have both Licht and Esti supporting the attack from the side and stretching the opposition defence so that the midfield can freely pass around.
just make our back three with Barzagli in the middle Chiellini on the left and Caceres on the right and it could work surprisingly well when you have both Licht and Esti supporting the attack from the side and stretching the opposition defence so that the midfield can freely pass around.
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I agree with the 3-5-2.
Caceres wants to play as a CB and our other 2 CB are playing great.
We can also fit in Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal and have 2 strikers.
Caceres wants to play as a CB and our other 2 CB are playing great.
We can also fit in Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal and have 2 strikers.
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I don't find it stupid no matter where CACERES play, I prefer to use him on Center back
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lucianomoggi wrote:I don't find it stupid no matter where CACERES play, I prefer to use him on Center back
Problem is that he is kinda shat at CB.
but who knows maybe his athleticism will give him superior edge in Serie A
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Mr Nick09 wrote:lucianomoggi wrote:I don't find it stupid no matter where CACERES play, I prefer to use him on Center back
Problem is that he is kinda shat at CB.
but who knows maybe his athleticism will give him superior edge in Serie A
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Caceres plays as a center back for Uruguay when we play our 3-4-3 but due to Luganos lack of pace, godin and him are often cleaning up after him. When w eplay 4-4-2 hes our starting lb and occasionally plays rb. IN sevilla he was the starting Rb and occasionally played the center and the left. Imo his best position is on the right as his crossing and vision is quite good and and whenver he plays on the right for uruguay and sevilla he becomes a huge part of the attack eg uruguay vs chile and italy. On the left he loses a bit of his attacking power due to being on his weaker foot but he has no problem marking at all and in the center he has improved a lot. his concentration has improved and his rashness has gone down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wczkMLajKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wczkMLajKE
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Charrua wrote:Caceres plays as a center back for Uruguay when we play our 3-4-3 but due to Luganos lack of pace, godin and him are often cleaning up after him. When w eplay 4-4-2 hes our starting lb and occasionally plays rb. IN sevilla he was the starting Rb and occasionally played the center and the left. Imo his best position is on the right as his crossing and vision is quite good and and whenver he plays on the right for uruguay and sevilla he becomes a huge part of the attack eg uruguay vs chile and italy. On the left he loses a bit of his attacking power due to being on his weaker foot but he has no problem marking at all and in the center he has improved a lot. his concentration has improved and his rashness has gone down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wczkMLajKE
Thanks for the info. Good to hear from somebody who watches him quite a lot. I only caught the odd game for his club and country.
CB in a back 3 sounds good to me.
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You must take into account however I have natural bias
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Charrua wrote:You must take into account however I have natural bias
-----------Cacerse------Barzagli------Chiellini-----
-----------Vidal----------Pirlo-----------Marchisio-----
-----Lichtsteiner--------------------------------Pepe---
-Matri-----Vucinic--
-----------Vidal----------Pirlo-----------Marchisio-----
-----Lichtsteiner--------------------------------Pepe---
-Matri-----Vucinic--
now that is the 3-3-4 that Conte favours in the last 2 matches in my eyes
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Hmm thats similar to Uruguays 3--4-3DeviAngel wrote:Charrua wrote:You must take into account however I have natural bias-----------Cacerse------Barzagli------Chiellini-----
-----------Vidal----------Pirlo-----------Marchisio-----
-----Lichtsteiner--------------------------------Pepe---
-Matri-----Vucinic--
now that is the 3-3-4 that Conte favours in the last 2 matches in my eyes
_________Caceres___Lugano_____Godin
Maxi Pereira_____Rios_______Perez___________Alvaro Pereira
_____________Cavani_____Forlan
___________________Suarez
Forlan or Cavani drop deep and The two wide pereiras support the attack.
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I still prefer a back 4.
Caceras can play across the entire backline.
Hes not a substitute for anyone.
He will fit in as an equal and help with the rotation policy. I dont see him as inferior or as a 'sub' for any one particular person
Caceras can play across the entire backline.
Hes not a substitute for anyone.
He will fit in as an equal and help with the rotation policy. I dont see him as inferior or as a 'sub' for any one particular person
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it's true that he can every where in the back for but the truth also is that he's far more comfortable playing with two fellow CB's and our D-line would be quite prone to mistake leading if we were to play him in a 4 man defence with let's say PDC Barzagli and Lich, he doesn't have almost no knowledge on the current team thus the understanding with his fellow defenders needs first to grow a bit and he lacks concentration just like BonBon and he's worser than him in the positional play. In a 3 man D-line he would have Barzagli and Chiellini to cover for him while also Marchisio and Vidal drop quite deep with our WB's which would make his errors easily erased and barely visible.
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Sure he will need some time to integrate with the squad and Contes tactics. Thats expected.
Saying he lacks concentration and positional play shows you are talking sweet out of your bunghole. His play in the centre for Uruguay as well as other places in the backline for Sevilla has been EXCELLENT . If you watched any of the South american games or La Liga over the last 2 years, you would realise what youre saying is complete dogs bollocks.
He doesnt need people to cover for him. He can hold his own just fine along with 2 other CBs.
Hed fit in well with a 3 man defense sure. Theres no doubting that.
And asking Marchsio and Vidal to drop deep to allow wingplay is totally moronic. They are box-to-box midfielders. You cannot ask them to just drop deep to allow wingplay. That takes all the bit out of our midfield which has really been out strong point this season.
and even IF you ask them to drop deep, we do not have the wingplay at ALL to support that.
a 4-3-3- or a 4-1-4-1 is currently our best line up IMO. a 3 man defense against a 3 man defense to bolster midfield battle is just fine. but other than that, this Juve is best with a 4man D.
Saying he lacks concentration and positional play shows you are talking sweet out of your bunghole. His play in the centre for Uruguay as well as other places in the backline for Sevilla has been EXCELLENT . If you watched any of the South american games or La Liga over the last 2 years, you would realise what youre saying is complete dogs bollocks.
He doesnt need people to cover for him. He can hold his own just fine along with 2 other CBs.
Hed fit in well with a 3 man defense sure. Theres no doubting that.
And asking Marchsio and Vidal to drop deep to allow wingplay is totally moronic. They are box-to-box midfielders. You cannot ask them to just drop deep to allow wingplay. That takes all the bit out of our midfield which has really been out strong point this season.
and even IF you ask them to drop deep, we do not have the wingplay at ALL to support that.
a 4-3-3- or a 4-1-4-1 is currently our best line up IMO. a 3 man defense against a 3 man defense to bolster midfield battle is just fine. but other than that, this Juve is best with a 4man D.
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I Think the 3 man defense is here to stay it has many ups and few downs.
Bonucci and Chiellini showed last year that non of them are able to lead a backline but in the 3 man defense they get out all the qualities they have both in the defensive side of their game where they are prone to slip ups in concentration and positioning this now means much less when they got 2 others to cover for that and in the offense they get much more freedom to take the ball up the field and continue their runs.
The 3 man defense also allows the midfield to step higher up the field just as Lynx says
All in all this is a win win situation for the squad and players truly at the disposal of the team its tough for the 2 purely attacking wingers Elia and Krasic but these are the only ones not fitting in.
The defense will be very strong it will bring out the best of the best in midfield and as a bonus Juve plays with a striking partnership up front again.
Bonucci and Chiellini showed last year that non of them are able to lead a backline but in the 3 man defense they get out all the qualities they have both in the defensive side of their game where they are prone to slip ups in concentration and positioning this now means much less when they got 2 others to cover for that and in the offense they get much more freedom to take the ball up the field and continue their runs.
The 3 man defense also allows the midfield to step higher up the field just as Lynx says
And asking Marchsio and Vidal to drop deep to allow wingplay is totally moronic. They are box-to-box midfielders. You cannot ask them to just drop deep to allow wingplay. That takes all the bit out of our midfield which has really been out strong point this season.
All in all this is a win win situation for the squad and players truly at the disposal of the team its tough for the 2 purely attacking wingers Elia and Krasic but these are the only ones not fitting in.
The defense will be very strong it will bring out the best of the best in midfield and as a bonus Juve plays with a striking partnership up front again.
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I wouldnt mind a Barzag-Caceras-Chiellini back line at all to be honest.
The problem is, that sees Lich out of a job. Hes a very good RB. But i dont think hes got the attacking qualities to play as a RWB --> RWF in the 3-5-2 formation and I think that would def be our Achilles heel and im sure all other teams would know it.
I dont know about you all, but Lich for me is one of our unsung heroes this season. All the accolades are there for the M-V-P and for Barzagli and a few others...but Lich is doing so much of the dirty work while holding his flank very secure.
Seeing him left out of the formation to allow us to play a 3-5-2 would be a shame. And seeing him left IN the formation and perform poorly in the attacking phase would also be a shame.
If it wasnt for the Lich dilemma, i think I would be more inclined to support the 3man D. But for now, with Lichsteiner playing well, I think a 4 man D is our best backline.
The problem is, that sees Lich out of a job. Hes a very good RB. But i dont think hes got the attacking qualities to play as a RWB --> RWF in the 3-5-2 formation and I think that would def be our Achilles heel and im sure all other teams would know it.
I dont know about you all, but Lich for me is one of our unsung heroes this season. All the accolades are there for the M-V-P and for Barzagli and a few others...but Lich is doing so much of the dirty work while holding his flank very secure.
Seeing him left out of the formation to allow us to play a 3-5-2 would be a shame. And seeing him left IN the formation and perform poorly in the attacking phase would also be a shame.
If it wasnt for the Lich dilemma, i think I would be more inclined to support the 3man D. But for now, with Lichsteiner playing well, I think a 4 man D is our best backline.
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I know what ur saying about Licht and i agree but i think with a little more games under his belt in that position he can do better there than in the back 4 cause he is forced to attack a bit more.
And from what ive seen its more a 5-3-2, anyways of course we need some crosses and some wingplay but i think the way Juve play and the quality of the players should make up for less "quality" wingplay
And from what ive seen its more a 5-3-2, anyways of course we need some crosses and some wingplay but i think the way Juve play and the quality of the players should make up for less "quality" wingplay
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a 3-5-2 is the same as a 5-3-2 or a 3-3-4 depending on the phase of play and ball possession but while Lich would function well in a 5-3-2 that goes to a 3-5-2, he would really struggle in 3-3-4.
Im all for trying him in that position but not when the game is squared and against a quality opponent.If we play a 4man D, are a few goals up, then yes, allowing Lich time in the RWB/RWF position may not be a bad thing; itll be another feather in his cap and allow him to develop that dimension of his game.
But can we depend on him to provide consistent quality balls in to the box, be the 'outside the box' specialist with link up play, be able to finishing from tight angles, or be able to drift in onto his left foot? I dont see any of that happening.
He hasnt got the attacking quality and attributes needed to be the consistent RWF/RAM we need right now. And when we have a perfectly good, trialled and tested position for him, why risk changing it up when we are in a delicate & crucial part of the season?
A 3-5-2 formation needs players on both wings who are equally adept at defensive and attacking play. Pepe is the only one that we have like that, and lets be fair, while he has a lot of heart and was in the form of his life before, hes hardly the long term solution there...
Why fix a formation that aint broken?
Im all for trying him in that position but not when the game is squared and against a quality opponent.If we play a 4man D, are a few goals up, then yes, allowing Lich time in the RWB/RWF position may not be a bad thing; itll be another feather in his cap and allow him to develop that dimension of his game.
But can we depend on him to provide consistent quality balls in to the box, be the 'outside the box' specialist with link up play, be able to finishing from tight angles, or be able to drift in onto his left foot? I dont see any of that happening.
He hasnt got the attacking quality and attributes needed to be the consistent RWF/RAM we need right now. And when we have a perfectly good, trialled and tested position for him, why risk changing it up when we are in a delicate & crucial part of the season?
A 3-5-2 formation needs players on both wings who are equally adept at defensive and attacking play. Pepe is the only one that we have like that, and lets be fair, while he has a lot of heart and was in the form of his life before, hes hardly the long term solution there...
Why fix a formation that aint broken?
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I sure did not notice any great wing play in the 4-3-3 and yet we are in first place but sure licht CAN NOT play in a 3-3-4 formation thats why i say it isnt a 3-3-4 its a lot more like a 5-3-2 in wich he really can play.
Licht coming from a defensive point of reference in the 4-3-3 has by now made 2 assist and 2 goals wich is not great but not bad either i think he should just continue playing defensive minded in the 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 and it will all work out.
Licht coming from a defensive point of reference in the 4-3-3 has by now made 2 assist and 2 goals wich is not great but not bad either i think he should just continue playing defensive minded in the 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 and it will all work out.
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well, the decision to go with a 4-3-3 is a conscious decision to play without true wingers. Whereas the decision to play with a 3-5-2 is a conscious decision to play WITH wingers. They are totally different strategies and you cannot compare one to the other. So - you would be silly to look for wingplay in a 433 which is why you didnt notice it and you should never expect to either.
Def dont mean to hate on Lich - but even though he has a couple of goals and assists, he has spurned PLENTY of chances that I would expect a winger to cash in on. there have been NUMEROUS misplaced crosses, numerous runs where he couldnt get the ball off his feet before running it out of play.
All those chances HAVE to be taken if we are sacrificing a defender (by playing a 3man D) in order to play a WB/WF. In a 3-5-2 with Lich, we are one man short on defense without really being one man up in any real attacking sense.The fact is, for every one chance/goal hes created, hes wasted so many more.
If we really intend to play a 3-5-2 permanently, then we need a better RWB/RAM because Lich is not the solution.
With this in mind, Im reasonably confident that Conte will see a 3-5-2 only as an alternative to the 4-3-3 which will/should be our main formation, especially now that Vucinic is fit again.
But at the end of the day who can really lay fault on Lich? hes been absolutely fantastic. One of Marrottas gems.
Def dont mean to hate on Lich - but even though he has a couple of goals and assists, he has spurned PLENTY of chances that I would expect a winger to cash in on. there have been NUMEROUS misplaced crosses, numerous runs where he couldnt get the ball off his feet before running it out of play.
All those chances HAVE to be taken if we are sacrificing a defender (by playing a 3man D) in order to play a WB/WF. In a 3-5-2 with Lich, we are one man short on defense without really being one man up in any real attacking sense.The fact is, for every one chance/goal hes created, hes wasted so many more.
If we really intend to play a 3-5-2 permanently, then we need a better RWB/RAM because Lich is not the solution.
With this in mind, Im reasonably confident that Conte will see a 3-5-2 only as an alternative to the 4-3-3 which will/should be our main formation, especially now that Vucinic is fit again.
But at the end of the day who can really lay fault on Lich? hes been absolutely fantastic. One of Marrottas gems.
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I get what ur saying but the difference to all this is that it really is a 5-3-2 hence there is the same need for wing play in this formation as in the 4-3-3 hence Licht will have no problems in this solution.
The way i see it Conte is sacrificing one of the two useless positions up front in the 4-3-3 and throwing that after the central defense so there is really not that much changes to the way the positions should be played.
The way i see it Conte is sacrificing one of the two useless positions up front in the 4-3-3 and throwing that after the central defense so there is really not that much changes to the way the positions should be played.
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the difference with a 5-3-2 compared to a 4-3-3 is the obvious lack of a 3rd forward.
Our frailties this season havent been in the defensive line (except whenever Bonucci has the ball - but thats a diff debate!). its been the inability of our forwards to convert the numberous goalscoring opportunities. We need all the help we can get up front right now...
With that in mind, why pull OUT a forward and replace him with another defender or defensive player in a 5-3-2 as you say? Doesnt make sense to me at all..
Our frailties this season havent been in the defensive line (except whenever Bonucci has the ball - but thats a diff debate!). its been the inability of our forwards to convert the numberous goalscoring opportunities. We need all the help we can get up front right now...
With that in mind, why pull OUT a forward and replace him with another defender or defensive player in a 5-3-2 as you say? Doesnt make sense to me at all..
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