Cuenca Vs Tello

The Franchise wrote:I think we all agree with that, talent wise, I think he is above all 3 of them (Cuenca, Tello, Jeffren).

Even on the limited action I have seen of him, that much is clear.

He seems to be progressing slowly,doesnt he?
I guess the progression curve isnt the same for every great talent.
Some players are ready even at 17.Guys like Messi,Fabregas or more recently Munian,Neymar,Goetze etc.Saw Ox today for Arsenal and he seems ready for the big stage.
Some others take more time to get ready stage.
Deulofeu is clearly some way off being ready.He will take atleast 2 more years.Also I am not quite sold on the hype.
After the Gai Assulin letdown I am sceptical of any new hyped up graduate from the academy.
At one point Gai was talked of as the new Messi.So lets see how Deulofeu progresses.

alexjanosik wrote:

The Franchise wrote:I think we all agree with that, talent wise, I think he is above all 3 of them (Cuenca, Tello, Jeffren).

Even on the limited action I have seen of him, that much is clear.

He seems to be progressing slowly,doesnt he?
I guess the progression curve isnt the same for every great talent.
Some players are ready even at 17.Guys like Messi,Fabregas or more recently Munian,Neymar,Goetze etc.Saw Ox today for Arsenal and he seems ready for the big stage.
Some others take more time to get ready stage.
Deulofeu is clearly some way off being ready.He will take atleast 2 more years.Also I am not quite sold on the hype.
After the Gai Assulin letdown I am sceptical of any new hyped up graduate from the academy.
At one point Gai was talked of as the new Messi.So lets see how Deulofeu progresses.

I dont know, but like you said 17 sis might young. Players are not supposed to be ready at that age.

Gai I think is a different case, because physically he is very small and injury seems to have stalled him.

As you said, lets wait and see, but from what I have seen from Deulofeu I am impressed. Though personally, I am more impressed by Rafinha.

I don't really like Deulofeu that much, at least, from what I've seen from him, which admittedly is not much.

He reminds me of Torres a bit with his dribbling, it's so...far in front of him. He has pace and all, but I've seen him lose the ball quite a bit.

Which for me is the biggest turn off personally. I like when a player can dribble, but has the ball close to him all the time so that they don't lose it as much (Messi, Iniesta, Cuenca all have that fantastic close control). Something Alexis could work on too.

Anyway, I prefer Cuenca between him and Tello for sure.

Tello>Cuenca

Khaledbarca wrote:

BarcaKizz wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

The Franchise wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:Deulofeu/Tello - Messi/Rafinha - Alexis/Pedro/Cuenca

We can keep them ALL

Nice thought but wishful thinking.

We will be lucky if we lose only Tello from this bunch.

Barca will alway sign players, especially marquee names in attacking positions.

yeah true.. i'm just trying to be optimistic
i hate the fact that some of these players has to leave Barca...

True, but there have been plenty of players I liked more than these guys who have left us. Gio, Gai Assulin (looked talented once), Bojan, Jeffren, Nolito.

Anyone wish we had Nolito this season? Damn... he would be so handy right now.

i had so much hopes on Gio.. but he made a big mistake by leaving.. he destroyed his career [ wasn't patient]...

Pretty sure he would've never made it at Barça. I def. rate JDS a lot higher. But he should stick to Spanish football, suits him a lot better than the English game.

Tello has been a revelation in my eyes these couple games, he is outshining Cuenca, who has been playing well this game too, hopefully Tello can keep it up like Cuenca has been doing.

Catalan Walcott

CBarca wrote:I don't really like Deulofeu that much, at least, from what I've seen from him, which admittedly is not much.

He reminds me of Torres a bit with his dribbling, it's so...far in front of him. He has pace and all, but I've seen him lose the ball quite a bit.

Which for me is the biggest turn off personally. I like when a player can dribble, but has the ball close to him all the time so that they don't lose it as much (Messi, Iniesta, Cuenca all have that fantastic close control). Something Alexis could work on too.

Anyway, I prefer Cuenca between him and Tello for sure.

but Deulofeu is still 17 !! so...

CBarca wrote:I don't really like Deulofeu that much, at least, from what I've seen from him, which admittedly is not much.

He reminds me of Torres a bit with his dribbling, it's so...far in front of him. He has pace and all, but I've seen him lose the ball quite a bit.

Which for me is the biggest turn off personally. I like when a player can dribble, but has the ball close to him all the time so that they don't lose it as much (Messi, Iniesta, Cuenca all have that fantastic close control). Something Alexis could work on too.

Anyway, I prefer Cuenca between him and Tello for sure.

I agree here, when he was with the first team he wasn't spectacular, but like Khaled said he is very raw and young.

I'll agree with you both, he's just turning 17 and there is a lot of time to improve. That is just my initial impression of him, one that seems to suit the EPL more than La Liga. We'll see. I'm optimistic because he seems very talented but it is that fact that I don't like. And I hope he can improve on that.

Pessimistic me says he won't because drastic style changes like that are very hard to develop, but then again, he's 17.

I will wait and see, like I always do

I agree with Dani, Rafinha has impressed me more than Deulofeu..
but again, we can't judge Deulofeu at least for next season.. with 1 year experience [ this season at segunda].. this could help us have a better idea about him, during preseason next summer, & segunda B team next season [ at 18]...

btw Tello is playing even better in the first team than he did for Barca B/Spain u-20 ?!

But but...Pep said Cuenca is not good looking :vagi:

I am impressed by Tello.
I think he can be a useful squad player to have.
He offers us something different.Blistering pace down the wing and ability to cut it back or cross.
We might need that ability against parked buses or even late in games when something different is needed.A different tactical option and can even start some games.
He still needs to work on his game.He needs to learn to mix it up.Not always go outside.Needs to learn to come inside so as to confuse the fullback.
But he is young and I am sure he will work on it.Scored a couple of goals too.Once he works on his game I am sure he will be a very good squad player to have.

Cuenca is a more technical player.Doesnt have pace but beats his man with technique and close control.Also has a good final pass on him.
But right now he plays like a traditional winger,going outside and crossing.
Which is not what we require exactly.He too needs to work on his game.
Needs to come inside more and add goals to his game.

alexjanosik wrote:I am impressed by Tello.
I think he can be a useful squad player to have.
He offers us something different.Blistering pace down the wing and ability to cut it back or cross.
We might need that ability against parked buses or even late in games when something different is needed.A different tactical option and can even start some games.
He still needs to work on his game.He needs to learn to mix it up.Not always go outside.Needs to learn to come inside so as to confuse the fullback.
But he is young and I am sure he will work on it.Scored a couple of goals too.Once he works on his game I am sure he will be a very good squad player to have.

Cuenca is a more technical player.Doesnt have pace but beats his man with technique and close control.Also has a good final pass on him.
But right now he plays like a traditional winger,going outside and crossing.
Which is not what we require exactly.He too needs to work on his game.
Needs to come inside more and add goals to his game.

Agree with this, great comments.

I personally think that this Tello kid looks more dangerous on the ball. His directness and speed is kind of what you've been missing imo.

alexjanosik wrote:
He still needs to work on his game.He needs to learn to mix it up.Not always go outside.Needs to learn to come inside so as to confuse the fullback.

He actually can do that, it's just that he needs confidence:

Min 0:40 Tello scores a goal cutting in.

I've also been impressed with Tello lately, but it has to be noted that the guy has improved a lot in the last 3 months, already in the B team. He improved a lot when Cuenca was promoted.This can happen to any player, to Deulofeu too.

CBarca wrote:I don't really like Deulofeu that much, at least, from what I've seen from him, which admittedly is not much.

He reminds me of Torres a bit with his dribbling, it's so...far in front of him. He has pace and all, but I've seen him lose the ball quite a bit.

Which for me is the biggest turn off personally. I like when a player can dribble, but has the ball close to him all the time so that they don't lose it as much (Messi, Iniesta, Cuenca all have that fantastic close control). Something Alexis could work on too.

Anyway, I prefer Cuenca between him and Tello for sure.

Deulofeu is not Torres or Cipriano. He can drible in tight spaces too. What he needs to work out is mostly in tactical aspects of the game. He already has the physical and techincal tools (although more technique always comes handy off course).

Impressed a lot by Tello yesterday, he seem to have a bit more than the 1 move Hope to see more of him and he develops... I agree alot with u guys, we need him to provide the cutting edge, we used to get it from Villa/Pedro and we've been missing it... Cuenca not been outstanding as b4...I Hope hes steps it up more regularly...

Cuenca: 19 appearances, 4 goals.

Tello: 7 appearances, 4 goals.



Did we promote Cuenca too soon? For me Tello is just as good. Both of them deserve equal opportunity. For all of Cuenca's skill and dribbling... I gotta say, I'm diggin the speed merchant right now.

Surely if we are playing these guys that we may have to sell some of other guys like Villa and Afellay. Even though I don't want to sell these guys, the amount of yuoth coming through are surely giving the edge for the other guys who aren't performing (Pedro Im talking especially to you). Tello is like Afellay, good speed and probably needs more experience so theres no need to start going crazy with the promotions.

I'm not saying Tello should be promoted. I'm asking why Cuenca was promoted. He should just be doing the same as Tello. Playing when he can for 1st team, and when he can for Barca B. They both deserve a go.

I just think its weird that Cuenca is now part of the 1st team, and yet a lot of us are still saying 'play Tello instead'.

Only explanation I got Kizz is Pep likes Cuenca' low crossing. Only one who does it with any accuracy, also got the ability to play a final pass.

Tello doesnt have that.

They are very different players to be honest. I don't think it's fair to compare them on goals. Cuenca is a Hleb. I don't think he can actually shot from more than 10 m. away from the goal. But he is a good dribler, passer and crosser.

Tello would be a hit in the EPL.

Both would make it, in fact are making it! Tello reminds me alot of the young Giggs his technique, speed and vision, he might be a little overplaying some plays but thats going to be tweaked in no time.

Cuenca's crossing ability is immense, ball control as well. These two will certainly keep growing in ability and stardom !