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Post by Cotes Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:24 pm

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Elijah injured? Not at all. The outside of the Netherlands has been ruled out of the squad for the match against Atalanta exclusively for technical choice. Midway through the week had reported a slight injury to his right ankle distortion, and for this reason, journalists and fans have been led to believe that he was not party to Bergamo because of this problem. But recently it was the same player to make clear, through his Twitter profile: "I got injured, I'm fine," wrote Elias, who wanted to make known to his fans the real reason for not calling. Antonio Conte has preferred to bring in Bergamo fledging Milos Krasic and this speaks volumes about the lack of consideration that the vice-world champion Eljero Elia.
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Post by inderbaby Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:23 pm

Work harder than :shisha:

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Post by BoBo Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:51 am

Start playing the lad ffs Conte

He has the ability and by now he must really have the hunger too

Besides Vucinic he seems to be the only player we got with some creative skills

From what i have seen so far he would definitely be a match decider the first chance he gets for a full 90 minutes

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Post by Lynx100 Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:38 pm

I agree...Juve currently lack any form of creativity

We so badly need a creative front 3 (or atleast 2) - similar to Messi, Sanchez and Villa
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Post by zarola Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:58 pm

he should at least be on the bench thats ridiculous he needs to leave juve. hes better than krasic
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Post by TrezeGent Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:01 pm

zarola wrote:he should at least be on the bench thats ridiculous he needs to leave juve. hes better than krasic

How so? Aa bad as Krasic is, Ellia has not done anything to prove he's better than him.

Conte's a wise man guys, if he doesn't gather Ellia, he's got a reason. He must work his ass off guys. Ellia just doesn't seem to do it.
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Post by chaval Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:01 am

Should just leave tbh, has no future at juve
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Post by maruf063 Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:19 am

conte must give him a chance ... you can't write someone off without choosing one of the few technical players in his squad... besides that conte isn't giving any real playing time to any of the youngsters... JUVE ARE GONNA SUFFER AGAIN ... typical age old serie A coach who fears the youth (sorry to say)... not enough class in Juve side apart from Pirlo, Vidal. and marchisio ... either you should promote youth or go and buy superstars ....


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Post by Lynx100 Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:41 am

Youth all the way

Marrone, Immobile, Magnusson, Guano, Pasquato and Di Silvestro
All deserve an opportunity

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Post by maruf063 Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:43 am

but none of them are getting enough playing time. they should have kept pasquato rather than loaning him to other clubs

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Post by zarola Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:56 pm

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zarola wrote:he should at least be on the bench thats ridiculous he needs to leave juve. hes better than krasic

How so? Aa bad as Krasic is, Ellia has not done anything to prove he's better than him.

Conte's a wise man guys, if he doesn't gather Ellia, he's got a reason. He must work his ass off guys. Ellia just doesn't seem to do it.

elia is a sub for netherlands at a very young age it should be an honour.

krasic has put in poor performances . elia has like wat.. 45mins in serie a? hes obviously desperate for game time, if u put him on he'd try to prove his worth
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:21 pm

yesterday on twitter :

#Elia
injured, therefore not in the squad to face Atalanta.
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Post by TrezeGent Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:11 pm

zarola wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:
zarola wrote:he should at least be on the bench thats ridiculous he needs to leave juve. hes better than krasic

How so? Aa bad as Krasic is, Ellia has not done anything to prove he's better than him.

Conte's a wise man guys, if he doesn't gather Ellia, he's got a reason. He must work his ass off guys. Ellia just doesn't seem to do it.

elia is a sub for netherlands at a very young age it should be an honour.

krasic has put in poor performances . elia has like wat.. 45mins in serie a? hes obviously desperate for game time, if u put him on he'd try to prove his worth

Ellia has not played because he has not shown enough determination on training.

We're talking about tittle contenders here, not some ordinary team which has no problem trying players.

Conte knows best. If he knows Ellia is that good and would have shined, he would've played him.

Ellia is just ordinary in my eyes.
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Post by lucianomoggi Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:37 pm

this was the reason that I said we don't need a natural left winger before the market; I just didn't know how to explain and some members found it stupid

the important thing is that CONTE found a way to win it doesn't matter how or who plays;




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Post by zarola Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:49 pm

juvefan4life wrote:
zarola wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:
zarola wrote:he should at least be on the bench thats ridiculous he needs to leave juve. hes better than krasic

How so? Aa bad as Krasic is, Ellia has not done anything to prove he's better than him.

Conte's a wise man guys, if he doesn't gather Ellia, he's got a reason. He must work his ass off guys. Ellia just doesn't seem to do it.

elia is a sub for netherlands at a very young age it should be an honour.

krasic has put in poor performances . elia has like wat.. 45mins in serie a? hes obviously desperate for game time, if u put him on he'd try to prove his worth

Ellia has not played because he has not shown enough determination on training.

We're talking about tittle contenders here, not some ordinary team which has no problem trying players.

Conte knows best. If he knows Ellia is that good and would have shined, he would've played him.

Ellia is just ordinary in my eyes.

my bad didnt know u attended every training session
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Post by TrezeGent Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:45 pm

zarola wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:
zarola wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:
zarola wrote:he should at least be on the bench thats ridiculous he needs to leave juve. hes better than krasic

How so? Aa bad as Krasic is, Ellia has not done anything to prove he's better than him.

Conte's a wise man guys, if he doesn't gather Ellia, he's got a reason. He must work his ass off guys. Ellia just doesn't seem to do it.

elia is a sub for netherlands at a very young age it should be an honour.

krasic has put in poor performances . elia has like wat.. 45mins in serie a? hes obviously desperate for game time, if u put him on he'd try to prove his worth

Ellia has not played because he has not shown enough determination on training.

We're talking about tittle contenders here, not some ordinary team which has no problem trying players.

Conte knows best. If he knows Ellia is that good and would have shined, he would've played him.

Ellia is just ordinary in my eyes.

my bad didnt know u attended every training session

No I do not attend every training session, however I do try to keep myself well informed.

I really like how you come freely in the Juve section and discuss with us, do not think your opinion doesn't matter to me. Stop using sarcasm.

You must note one thing however. The difference between Conte and other coaches we had previously is that you need to work your ass of to get a starting place in Juventus.

Other coaches we had would play Elia because he is a promising Holland star.

And this difference in my opinion, between Conte and other coaches we had is the reason of Juve's success this season (up till now).
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Post by zarola Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:47 pm

but coaching isnt all about winning games, you have to keep everyone happy. Here you have someone who makes the bench for a top3 nt but not the bench of a top whatever # club. You're gonna lose elia if u dont use elia, and it's not as if throwing him on the bench is a huge risk anyway since you have someone playing like utter crap in his place.
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Post by TrezeGent Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:16 am

zarola wrote:but coaching isnt all about winning games, you have to keep everyone happy. Here you have someone who makes the bench for a top3 nt but not the bench of a top whatever # club. You're gonna lose elia if u dont use elia, and it's not as if throwing him on the bench is a huge risk anyway since you have someone playing like utter crap in his place.

You're joking right? Coaching IS all about winning. It's about keeping the fans happy.

If Ellia doesnt work enough, and we're winning without him, I wouldn't mind seeing him gone.

Last thing dude, you're talking about Juventus, so that bench thing for the 3rd national team is a ridiculous point to make. May I remind you that WC2006 Final had 9 Juventus staring players?

I just can't see why people want Ellia so much when he doesn't even want it himself. If he did he would work his butt off. Look at Pepe, he's there because of hard work not talent or past.
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Post by TrezeGent Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:17 am

juvefan4life wrote:
zarola wrote:but coaching isnt all about winning games, you have to keep everyone happy. Here you have someone who makes the bench for a top3 nt but not the bench of a top whatever # club. You're gonna lose elia if u dont use elia, and it's not as if throwing him on the bench is a huge risk anyway since you have someone playing like utter crap in his place.

You're joking right? Coaching IS all about winning. It's about keeping the fans happy. They pay to watch the games, not Ellia.

If Ellia doesnt work enough, and we're winning without him, I wouldn't mind seeing him gone.

Last thing dude, you're talking about Juventus, so that bench thing for the 3rd national team is a ridiculous point to make. May I remind you that WC2006 Final had 9 Juventus staring players?

I just can't see why people want Ellia so much when he doesn't even want it himself. If he did he would work his butt off. Look at Pepe, he's there because of hard work not talent or past.
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Post by zarola Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:02 am

sorry but netherlands is way better than juventus. please, dont make such ridiculous statements. Maybe elia isnt working hard for coaching reasons, maybe they dont have mutual respect for each other. u dont know for a fact elia isnt working hard, and i know for a fact krasic has been piss poor. Im not saying elia should play i dont even know the guy all im saying is he should be given a bench chance at the very least because krasic is doing crap and elia is young and promising and if u dont give him a chance u will lose him annd will be left with an even older and crappier krasic
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Post by DeviAngel Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:04 am

whole ur debate is irrelevant because Elia yesterday told on twitter that the truth is that he is really injured lol
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Post by TrezeGent Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:10 am

zarola wrote:sorry but netherlands is way better than juventus. please, dont make such ridiculous statements. Maybe elia isnt working hard for coaching reasons, maybe they dont have mutual respect for each other. u dont know for a fact elia isnt working hard, and i know for a fact krasic has been piss poor. Im not saying elia should play i dont even know the guy all im saying is he should be given a bench chance at the very least because krasic is doing crap and elia is young and promising and if u dont give him a chance u will lose him annd will be left with an even older and crappier krasic

Never did I say Holand were weaker than Juventus. You can not compare a nation with a team dude.

My point was, the fact that he's a bench player for Holland means nothing for Juventus.

Last thing, you said that if we lose him we'll be left with a crappier Krasic? Well that's funny because this Juventus system needs neither one of them. They just do not have the technical abilities nor do they fit in the line up. We're being based on Central Midfielders, and Marrone looks much better than both of them so far. Also Gianchierini is having a good time playing on the wings when needed.

I do get your point though, I just disagree with it.
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Post by chaval Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:30 am

There is no point to him being in this club, and there never was.
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Post by Il Pinguino Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:35 am

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No I do not attend every training session, however I do try to keep myself well informed.

I really like how you come freely in the Juve section and discuss with us, do not think your opinion doesn't matter to me. Stop using sarcasm.

You must note one thing however. The difference between Conte and other coaches we had previously is that you need to work your ass of to get a starting place in Juventus.

Other coaches we had would play Elia because he is a promising Holland star.

And this difference in my opinion, between Conte and other coaches we had is the reason of Juve's success this season (up till now)
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Beautifully said! I've said it time and time again. No one is guaranteed a spot here. Players cannot walk into this club thinking they deserve a spot automatically because of their name they must work hard and earn it. This is what has created this winning team and why it is so successful. By taking this approach, Conte has created a hungry team. That is THE MOST important trait of all in a successful team imo. The Juve of the past few seasons could not hold a lead for their life. When the going got tough the team quit. That is unacceptable in my eyes. This year it seems this team feeds off of situations like that. Take the Napoli game for example.

In my eyes Conte has finally done what the past coaches have been unable to do and thats lay a solid foundation to build on. This team plays with confidence because of him. Who cares who is playing and who is not as long as we keep winning. He seems to know how to get the results with players that may not be the most talented. Just imagine what he can do after winning the scudetto/Qualifying for CL and we add some real WC talent thats willing to break there ass for him.
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