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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:57 pm

Same tactics over and over again. Should either go total defence ala Inter (well with Epep, Carvalho, Ramos you can implement only some) or possession football (some Madrid fans preach on, cant see it). Dat counter attack staff nor defensive nor possessive they play doesnt work. Where is Sahin???
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Post by paperbackwriter Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:02 pm

Nothing wrong with the tactics... Bad defending due to sub par defenders in Carvalho and Altintop thou. And Pepes big mistake letting Puyol get a free header... Everything Barca created came from Carvalhos and Altintops side.
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Post by bazinga Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:03 pm

There was nothing tactically amiss. Barcelona were just too effing good.
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:03 pm

Inter defended whole team, so his Chelsea. Instead Mou is worried about critics.
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Post by guest7 Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:03 pm

Yeah, tonight he played cattanetcio(spellcheck) but Carvalho and Altinop are horrible defenders.

You might have noticed how every attack came from the right. And Abidal just getting a freepass to get a goal
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Post by rsinatra Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:06 pm

yeah he should for something like what he did with inter. or what?? the players are different, so maybe it wouldn't work anyway. they have to accept that they are the weaker team and are expected to lose. anything other than that should be positive for them lol.
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Post by Kev Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:06 pm

TBF, I think today was more damage- control than anything. A 1-2 is perhaps what Mou was expecting.

We'll change tactics when we have the right personnel and good morale.
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Post by Mamad Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:06 pm

It's not about tactics. Barca's players are far better than us.

We have Pepe and Lass in the middle and they have Xavi and Iniesta. it is not fair :facepalm: .
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Post by Yeezus Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:07 pm

Winning comes first.

How you win is irrelevant as long as you got what you came for.

Mou can't put this through his head at RM.

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Post by Abramovich Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:07 pm

Lol madrid I pity so much, god like Mourinho doesn't deserve this No
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:09 pm

Yep but first mistake was Pepe with horrible marking, second I agree needs Ramos or Arbeloa there. Also indeciseveness in attack, they quickly deliver the ball upfront and then 7 players vs 2 cant decide who is going to take it. Ronaldo needs to be less egoistical, I wonder why it worked with Etoo (a massive egoist)
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Post by the xcx Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:10 pm

Mou wanted a new challenge in Madrid, now hes got one.
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:10 pm

Mamad wrote:It's not about tactics. Barca's players are far better than us.

We have Pepe and Lass in the middle and they have Xavi and Iniesta. it is not fair :facepalm: .

Cmon man, they are not invincibles, quite vulnerable on counter attack.

The thing is Milan lost due to bad defence

Real lost more to indeciveness in attack, Benzema and CR make me shackle in anger
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Post by paperbackwriter Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:10 pm

It's not like any top team except Inters Mou have done any better in the last 3 years when it matters.

Ferguson would also look like a fool if he came up against this Barca in more than a game every 2 years.
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Post by rsinatra Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:12 pm

Kevacious wrote:TBF, I think today was more damage- control than anything. A 1-2 is perhaps what Mou was expecting.

We'll change tactics when we have the right personnel and good morale.

i dont think it was what mourinho was expecting. that's too much assuming imo. after they scored 1-0 they turned into stone. they thought they could win it 1-0.

who would be the right personnel?
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:12 pm

I've said this over and over again. Every time they don't put Pepe in Midfield and park the bus they will lose. It's really that simple.

It doesn't matter who they buy because they won't be better then Xaviesta and Messi and they won't have played in the same system since they were 10 years old.

I mean it's pretty obvious at this point it's the only way they can win how many more examples do we need?
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Post by rsinatra Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:13 pm

really, if mourinho cant make real madrid beat barcelona, i dont know what coach could sub him and make them to do that. they just have to wait for the barca players to grow old and hope that the next generation isnt as good and that pep takes another job somewhere else
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Post by Gil Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:14 pm

Don't understand how Chelsea, Valencia, Inter and Arsenal can outplay this Barca side but Madrid can't even once in about 30+ tries.
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Post by bazinga Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:15 pm

At this point, this seems to be Moaninho's best hope:

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Post by rsinatra Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:15 pm

real madrid should buy the entire getafe team or get their coach lol
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:16 pm

Yeah seems in possession football Barca is unbeatable, but defensively they can be taken down

1) Eliminate those egos in attack aka CR, Higuain, Benzema, work with em
2) Midfield needs solution, everytime they come up against Barca, only Pepe when playing there delivers
3) Defence work, more cohesiveness

Why he didnt do it this whole time. With Chelsea and Inter at that same period of time, he dominated everyone
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Post by Highburied Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:18 pm

Spend money...

Buy Squillaci and Denilson and problem SOLVED!
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:22 pm

What really upsets me is that every clasico, one more new system.

Instead of drilling an idea of play into the players so that they know instantaneously how to find each other on the pitch, and have something to rely upon, we try something new every time.

It fails, it's disappointing, cant string two passes together, that's not spanish football.
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Post by Lord Hades Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:26 pm

its a learning curve, pretty steep but we learn something new all the time.. fortunately this was the lesser of the three competitions and hopefully we actually learn something useful from this loss and improve on that in the next match
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Post by jibers Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:28 pm

There is nothing to learn. There is a point were tactics and buying players will do nothing. Barcelona are simply better, it's their moment, it will pass.
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