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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Omniscient wrote:There are a handful of defenders more solid than Pepe on the market, but it's really not worth 40m+ for a negligibly better improvement.
No there arent, Pepe has been excellent this season as well. You guys need to stop underrating him. And almost none are as athletic as he is.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
hrealmadrid wrote:I had two thumbs down for Coentrao from the beginning. However I think Marcelo is notoriously underrated and a motivated Ramos is world class.
Marcelo is notoriously underrated because he used to be one of the most rubbish excuses for a 'defender' I had ever seen. Since then he's read Maldini's "Left-back for dummies" and improved dramatically.
Ramos has always had the hype and reputation, but I think he has needed to polish his game for a long time now and has never really got round to it.
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Khaledbarca wrote:T.Silva is the only player currently who could improve RealMadrid's defence.. but don't think he'll leave ACMilan any time soon!
Signed a 5 year contract with us. He's not going anywhere for any price and will probably be our next official captain (having already acted as captain once in Ambrosini's absence this season). He loves the city, the people and the club and it would be hard to see him moving for the money. He is disciplined (only gave away 1 yellow all of last season + no red cards), is tactically aware, has great distribution, speed and positioning. Moreover, he can still improve with mentoring from Nesta and Tassotti.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
madrid best defense in ucl last season ,2 conceded this season with our second string backline.
terrible defense
terrible defense
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
People on here with the Ramos criticism
I would take not one other centreback out there over Ramos.
We should when we see Ramos starting a game? Seriously?
Watch a Real Madrid game.
I would take not one other centreback out there over Ramos.
We should when we see Ramos starting a game? Seriously?
Watch a Real Madrid game.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Also check the defensive stats in the Champions Leauge.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Real Madrid defense have been crap until this year.
My point is, they spent hundreds of millions and didnt bother to actually improve their defense.
Ramos is not a top 10 CB... OK OK, he is a right back but hes not a top 5 either.
Pepe is the only Top10 product in your defense but he is very bad when it comes to making a strong partnership.
A pair of regulas CBs have been missing at Real Madrid.
Those who say, there is nobody in the market. Why dont you give Wenger a call? Maybe he can find you another version of Koscielny.
My point is, they spent hundreds of millions and didnt bother to actually improve their defense.
Ramos is not a top 10 CB... OK OK, he is a right back but hes not a top 5 either.
Pepe is the only Top10 product in your defense but he is very bad when it comes to making a strong partnership.
A pair of regulas CBs have been missing at Real Madrid.
Those who say, there is nobody in the market. Why dont you give Wenger a call? Maybe he can find you another version of Koscielny.
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highburied wrote:Real Madrid defense have been crap until this year.
My point is, they spent hundreds of millions and didnt bother to actually improve their defense.
Ramos is not a top 10 CB... OK OK, he is a right back but hes not a top 5 either.
Pepe is the only Top10 product in your defense but he is very bad when it comes to making a strong partnership.
A pair of regulas CBs have been missing at Real Madrid.
Those who say, there is nobody in the market. Why dont you give Wenger a call? Maybe he can find you another version of Koscielny.
havent you finished your troll quota for the week..
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
-------------Akinfeev------------------
Ramos--Pepe--Hummels--Marcelo
This will be much better for Madrid.
Ramos--Pepe--Hummels--Marcelo
This will be much better for Madrid.
Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
IMO Hummels wasn't overly convincing in the CL. I'm not sure he could cope with the pressure at Real when he has problems in the German NT and CL matches. (In the BL he *is* really good, though).
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
I just lost some respect for you.
Koscieny?
Ramos is not a top 10 cb?
Well he could've fooled me.
I won't go into details on the matter seeing as I don't have the time.......just one question though.....what exactly is your basis for making such bold statements...?
Koscieny?
Ramos is not a top 10 cb?
Well he could've fooled me.
I won't go into details on the matter seeing as I don't have the time.......just one question though.....what exactly is your basis for making such bold statements...?
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Yes why don't we just reshuffle our back line like its a pack of cards.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Idrisozet wrote:-------------Akinfeev------------------Ramos--Pepe--Hummels--Marcelo
This will be much better for Madrid.
Ramos should leave as soon as a top team shows interest (doubt that will happen)
A right back prospect who can easily play first team with tons of potential is Sime Vrsaljko.
Hummels>Pepe
Marcelo is fine, considering the LB crisis today.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Only defenders I would break the bank for are Thiago Silva, Vermaelan and Kompany to partner RAMOS.
Highburied hasn't even watched a single game this season. Ramos has been one of the best this season. Simplez.
Highburied hasn't even watched a single game this season. Ramos has been one of the best this season. Simplez.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
While Sergio Ramos has been at Centre Back....
Real Madrid have Conceedd 0 goals in the Champions Leauge
....................................... 0 goals in the Copa del Rey
....................................... 10 goals in la liga.
Real Madrid have Conceedd 0 goals in the Champions Leauge
....................................... 0 goals in the Copa del Rey
....................................... 10 goals in la liga.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
It's funny how only RM fans rate Ramos. Everyone else says he's meh.
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ynwa wrote:It's funny how only RM fans rate Ramos. Everyone else says he's meh.
Every Real Madrid player is rated meh by everyone that is not a Real supporter.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Except every coaches and captains
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:BarcaKizz wrote:Madrid have a good set of defenders...
Which RB should they buy? In terms of right backs right now, there is Alves... then a long, long gap to who knows who... Arbeloa and Ramos are already there, nobody could improve them.
CBs? Pepe is a great CB, he's just wild and dirty. I don't like him, but he's a good defender. Ramos is a great player too. Players that are better than them? Well they can't sign Pique or Puyol, I'm not sure Thiago Silva is feasible and tbh Vidic wouldn't help them at all with his style. Who is better? Carvalho, Albiol and Varane is solid depth too.
LB? Marcelo has trouble from time to time defnding, he's not a natural defender, but he's a revelation going forward. Against weak teams, there's no better LB to have. Even against all the best teams too, Madrid are a dominant team generally. Only against Barca, and other seriously top class wingers who get service does he struggle. Coentrao is, however, also a great fullback... How about that for a backup?
This Madrid side is very good, its just it isn't better than Barca, simple.
Dont worry dude, Highburied is a bit of a hater on this topic.
While we could have spent the money better to improve ourselves, we have quality. Ramos has been nothing but excellent this season, he is playing just as well as the best out there, and will soon turn world class. Varane is an absolutely brilliant youngster, there is another world class talent.
There is no so called Barca beater on the market, Nesta and Thiago couldnt stop them, Arsenal D couldnt stop them, Man utd couldnt stop them. If i can mention two players out there i think could better us in defnse and would fare well in clasicos, it would be Thiago and Vermaelen, because of their athleticism. Those big dudes will get owned one way or another.
If you want to know the true weak link of our team in defense, It's Alonso. For all his qualities on the ball, he is a big liability in defense.
Great reply. I agree with you entirely. Thats why I think the main thing needed is a destroyer midfield or someone who can shield the defence. Messi, Xavi and Iniesta all like to operate in the holes. Pepe's shown he's capable of playing there, so another CB could be brought in to replace Albiol & Carvalho, but I don't know who would be on the market. There aren't too many DMs in the mould I'm talking about. Toure was a beast with Barca and so I believe he could do it, but he's still quite loyal to the Catalans. De Jong may be a thug, but I think he has some of the right qualities.
Ideally however, I'd go with a quality CB and put Pepe at DM (this is for a match against Barca).
And lol at Koscielny being better than Ramos...
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
EarlyPrototype wrote:ynwa wrote:It's funny how only RM fans rate Ramos. Everyone else says he's meh.
Every Real Madrid player is rated meh by everyone that is not a Real supporter.
Tell me who doesnt rate Xabi Alonso?
Ozil? Benzema? Higuain?
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Casillas
Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Marcelo
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Casillas
Coentrao Pepe Ramos Marcelo
Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Marcelo
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Casillas
Coentrao Pepe Ramos Marcelo
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Sagna > Arbeloa
Pepe > Koscienly
Vermaelen > Ramos
Marcelo > Santos
Pepe > Koscienly
Vermaelen > Ramos
Marcelo > Santos
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Why are you guys saying that thiago and nesta couldn't stop barca?only one or maybe 2 of the goals we conceded against them could be blamed on the CBS......own goal,penalty,villa free kick etc
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
Don't make me bring up the vid of Hoilett raping Sanga more than Messi has ever raped anyone at Real Madrid.
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Re: Why Real Madrid dont sign better defenders?
rag, come on now.
Sagna is the best RB in the league.
Hoilett is probably the only one to kill him in the last couple of seasons. Let's not base this on one game.
Sagna is the best RB in the league.
Hoilett is probably the only one to kill him in the last couple of seasons. Let's not base this on one game.
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What are you clowns basing their opinions on.
In my book......it's always rate a player's performance off one game than 0.
Ramos had 1 bad game this season....against Valencia.That's literally it.....he has been AMAZING in the rest.
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